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Whaeanui · 23/03/2023 19:45

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MarshaMelrose · 23/03/2023 21:13

Samcro · 23/03/2023 09:43

thanks so its not unbiased really, can't explain what i mean, but if you have to sign up for it, its not.like an election, only certain people were asked.

Yougov asks all sorts of questions of its members so they can choose who will see certain polls. You can select if you want yo do the poll, but they already know whose opinions they'llbe looking at. They're constantly collecting information on your attitude and opinions on a whole variety of issues. They're pretty accurate in results.
As for not being polled, I've always been suspicious how so few can accurately represent the view of so many. But if you look on the AIBU polls, it's surprising how the percentages stay the same no matter how the number of people voting increases.

MarshaMelrose · 23/03/2023 21:18

MrsMaxDeWinter · 23/03/2023 12:11

Zimbabwe's current problems are nothing to do with leaving the Commonwealth. In any event, the Commonwealth departure was because the then UK govt wanted to play colonial master over Zimbabwe's land reforms. Given that Zimbabwe's independence war, which was not supported by Margaret Thatcher's government at the time, who took side of apartheid South Africa, was fought over land, it stands to reason that the government would choose its own land policy over being part of the Commonwealth.

Zimbabwe left the Commonwealth because Mugabe's continuous outrageous behaviour was got them a suspension which the Commonwealth was refusing to lift. They've already applied to rejoin.

StartupRepair · 24/03/2023 00:27

The Commonwealth is a collection of countries who espouse democracy and have connections through history, language and educational structures to the UK. The Commonwealth is a block of trading and cultural partners. Being in the Commonwealth is separate to having the King as Head of State. When Australia becomes a republic I am sure we will remain in the Commonwealth. Some countries have joined the Commonwealth who were never colonised.

twanmever · 24/03/2023 04:06

Samcro · 23/03/2023 09:35

who do they poll? I always wonder as I have never known anyone who has been "polled"

I also get polls several times a week. Anyone can sign up and get them.

LaMarschallin · 24/03/2023 09:53

I want to be one of the hundred people asked about a question on "Pointless".

The only time I've ever been officially asked my opinion was about a new flavour of cream crackers. I was quite pleased because I was peckish and happy to eat a few savoury biscuits.
I chose soured cream and black pepper.
I don't think it made it to the shelves.

LaMarschallin · 24/03/2023 10:00

The only time I've ever been officially asked my opinion was about a new flavour of cream crackers.

Ah, see...
Now somebody will be all clever and point out that I've been officially invited to vote since I became eligible.

BadgerB · 24/03/2023 10:04

MrsMaxDeWinter · Yesterday 11:10
Well given that for centuries Britain ran a slave trade that emptied swathes of Africa,

You do know that Britain was the first country to abolish the slave trade, and that many British sailors died on the West Africa patrol, intercepting slaving ships going to the U.S?
And as for emptying swathes of Africa - slaves were sold to the traders by African leaders.

meditrina · 24/03/2023 10:15

skullbabe · 23/03/2023 10:02

I understand what you mean - yes people surveyed are self selected people who are interested in being surveyed.

No, it doesn't mean that.

You self-select only in the sense that you choose to register with them in the first place (they say they advertise for members in a number of ways with as broad a reach as possible)

At registration, they collect demographic information about you

Then when there is a poll, they select a representative sample, and that is who receives that poll (not everyone receives all of them). Then the final data are statistically weighted to reflect the adult population (so that those who don't return their answers don't skew the results)

LadyKenya · 24/03/2023 10:27

BadgerB · 24/03/2023 10:04

MrsMaxDeWinter · Yesterday 11:10
Well given that for centuries Britain ran a slave trade that emptied swathes of Africa,

You do know that Britain was the first country to abolish the slave trade, and that many British sailors died on the West Africa patrol, intercepting slaving ships going to the U.S?
And as for emptying swathes of Africa - slaves were sold to the traders by African leaders.

Ahh yes that old crock, the gallant British, riding to the rescue to abolish the slave trade, out of the goodness of their hearts. Perhaps look into the reasons they did so. As for your last sentence, they were their enemies that they were dealing with, from other tribes.

LadyKenya · 24/03/2023 10:30

That is not to dismiss the people who honestly did abhor what was happening to people who were slaves, and were part of the movement to end the trade. But that is not the whole story.

Whaeanui · 24/03/2023 10:35

Did anyone else read the link I posted several media were running same story? An ISPOS poll proves the title of this thread wrong.

LaMarschallin · 24/03/2023 10:38

I don't know enough about the history to enter into the debate in any useful way, but

As for your last sentence, they were their enemies that they were dealing with, from other tribes.

does that justify selling people into slavery?

LadyKenya · 24/03/2023 10:43

LaMarschallin · 24/03/2023 10:38

I don't know enough about the history to enter into the debate in any useful way, but

As for your last sentence, they were their enemies that they were dealing with, from other tribes.

does that justify selling people into slavery?

Well you can always do something about that, if you care too. Whether it was justified or not, is not the point. The fact is it was pow, if you like, that they were dealing with.

LaMarschallin · 24/03/2023 10:50

I try to do things about injustices. For example, I'm a member of various charities that I think support victims of injustice.

Whether it was justified or not, is not the point.

Oh. Right.
What was the point of the part of your post that said:

As for your last sentence, they were their enemies that they were dealing with, from other tribes.

Whaeanui · 24/03/2023 10:52

It’s quite obvious @LadyKenya was responding to a post which was both inaccurate and an attempt to blame Africans for Britain’s part in slavery. Just accept Britain’s role in the slavery and colonisation of other people without trying to excuse it.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 24/03/2023 10:53

Whaeanui · 24/03/2023 10:35

Did anyone else read the link I posted several media were running same story? An ISPOS poll proves the title of this thread wrong.

It is behind a paywall

LadyKenya · 24/03/2023 10:54

Thank you @Whaeanui .

Whaeanui · 24/03/2023 10:57

@PreparationPreparationPrep oh ok, the heading tells the results though and if anyone is reading any media this week you must of seen it. It’s weird this thread is running about YouGov and this poll is being ignored

LaMarschallin · 24/03/2023 11:00

Whaeanui · 24/03/2023 10:52

It’s quite obvious @LadyKenya was responding to a post which was both inaccurate and an attempt to blame Africans for Britain’s part in slavery. Just accept Britain’s role in the slavery and colonisation of other people without trying to excuse it.

Was she?
But she seemed to accept that it was true that African leaders sold their enemies from other tribes into slavery.
I don't know - I said my history isn't good. I assumed she knew what she was talking about.

Just accept Britain’s role in the slavery and colonisation of other people without trying to excuse it.

I didn't try to excuse anything.
I just wondered about that particular sentence.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 24/03/2023 11:06

I think @LaMarschallin is feigning her ignorance to justify that what the British did is ok.

LaMarschallin · 24/03/2023 11:08

PreparationPreparationPrep · 24/03/2023 11:06

I think @LaMarschallin is feigning her ignorance to justify that what the British did is ok.

Do you?
In what way have I tried to justify what the British did?

blitheringblackberries · 24/03/2023 11:09

I think people are often selective about the information that suits them. Some may play down or discount polls when they return inconvenient results, but the same people may suddenly prove willing to accept other polls if the results are more to their liking.

Equally, some seem keen to emphasise the role played by certain participants in the slave trade, but downplay or discount that played by others.

The truth is presumably somewhere in the middle

Whaeanui · 24/03/2023 11:12

@LaMarschallin my post didn’t @ you as it was about her response to the former poster trying to minimise or excuse

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