HRH Prince Archie Harrison 0f Sussex and HRH Princess Lilibet Diana of Sussex

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Will Sussex be their last names? How does that work?

Ha! I saw it on the "Daily Express" and it's a rag, a tabloid!!! There has been no announcement about such a ban and there won't be because there is no ban. See, this the kind of comments I am talking about. The children are HRH and have been since the Queen passed away.

Lies are being spread because people do not want those children to have those titles or the style. Well, they do have them!

The Queen couldn’t have given him it. It was an inheritable title so on Philip’s death it went to Charles.

it could only be given after Charles titles merged with the Crown.

There are now news reports saying that Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet are not invited to the their grandfather's coronation and that they are being snubbed in favor of Camilla,'s grandkids. Now, I supposed that's an announcement as well? And I suppose that the truth? Please spare me!

It's bull S! Just like any article suggesting there is a ban.

Are they inviting small children to the coronation? I doubt it. Louis might not even be there.

Camilla's grandchildren are teenagers. Of course they are going to be invited.

If it's true, it might be as simple as that.

Archie is a sovereign prince.

Just FYI, those are two completely different things, unless you are talking about Archie being the sovereign of a principality (which he definitely isn’t).

What are the rules in this instance for their kids?

Eg I believe unless lilibet marries someone with a title, her children will be title-less.

What about Archie? He wasn't born a Prince but now he is (and male) will his children have titles? Eg Prince and Princess?

I'm wondering because the Queens cousins are princes but their children are lords and ladies I believe.

I have read that the children are not invited as yet because H&M have not yet said whether they are coming or not and also because the children are “very young”. Not sure what role they could have in the coronation at 18 months and four 🤷‍♀️. And it’s unlikely that in the middle of the ceremony they are all going to stop to sing happy birthday to Archie 😂

Archie and Lilibet are able to style themselves as Prince/Princess now as Charles is King, and he is their grandfather. As great-grandchildren of the Queen they were too remote to be able to use that style. So it’s only been available to them since QEII died.

Their children would also only be great-grandchildren of the monarch (in this case Charles) and so would be too remote to gain a Prince/Princess title. Archie will inherit the Dukedom of Sussex, though.

(all this is subject to change though - Charles is in charge of the rules, and can change them if he wants).

Charles would never not invite his grandchildren. And your responses to this just proves my point on many levels.

And it's not about the kids not being invited either.

What about Archie? He wasn't born a Prince but now he is (and male) will his children have titles? Eg Prince and Princess?

Under present practice, Archie's children would be lord and lady, even if Harry is still alive when Archie has children. Those are the titles of the children of Prince Michael of Kent. When Archie inherits the Dukedom of Sussex, his children are still lord and lady, but his eldest son can be called Earl of Dumbarton as a courtesy title.

No assume this was aimed at me. I’m sure he will invite them, but I can’t imagine they would be involved in the ceremony, can you? They have never seen anything like it. I would imagine the noise etc would be terrifying for them. The Wales children are used to it. And as for my last comment, it was a joke, or have you had a sense of humour bypass? As I said, it was written that they haven’t finalised anything yet because their parents have not confirmed if either or both of them will be attending. No one is “going after” the kids 🙄

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There is a very good reason not to style innocent children as HRH or as Princess, Headlines

when you see a headline with Prince it catches your eye. You don’t have to remember which of the many young children it references right away. Here is a story about royalty and it might be juicy. It is also about a child, but it sell papers and brings clicks.

think about the negative attention awarded to Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie as they were growing up.

when you see a headline about the same level of grandchild without the title, you have to make the connection yourself. Your mind does immediately go to juicy royal scandal about a 12 year old when you just see a name.

think about the lack of attention awarded to Zara Tindall and Peter Phillips growing up.

titles can be a burden on a child, especially a child who needs to grow up with a plan towards finding employment and a life alongside the occasional royal responsibility.

I would be very surprised if there wasn’t at least one photo over the Coronation with Charles, his wife, his children and his grandchildren.

for all the strife and hassles it would be remarkable imo to not have a photo, for history, of the King and his immediate family.

I don't think they are going to have toddlers and small children at the coronation. The balcony, yes. Inside the Abbey, no.

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Ponderingwindow
I agree with you.
There's a substantial difference in the press coverage of Anne's and Edward's children compared to Andrew's and Charles' and it's hard not to notice that the children with titles were much more in the public eye and open to criticism than the ones whose parents chose to have a less public upbringing for their children.

When Harry indicated he wanted his children to have a more normal life, I thought good on him. After the childhood he had it would make sense to want better for his kids. The latest move seems at odds with that.

I would definitely expect family photos, but I doubt that toddlers are going to be expected to attend the actual coronation. it has nothing to do with the schism.

It’s so much more extreme than the debate about children at weddings. It’s going to be broadcast worldwide and is described as an extremely solemn event. Can you imagine the pressure on a parent of a young child to keep them quiet? Can you imagine being the child who doesn’t stay quiet and having it recorded, discussed, and dissected? That story would follow that child for the rest of his or her life.

You are very invested, OP!

I missed the worked “day” from my post

i don’t expect any of the younger children at the abbey. George and Charlotte at most.

They all are!

They’re 4 and 1. They won’t be invited because they are very young. It’s not a slight

I predicted long ago that Harry would marry an American and black woman and he did just that. Many people said on social media, " I highly doubt it" etc.

I'm not invested but I am on the children's and their parents side because so many don't want the children titled and styled solely because they are biracial. And that's is so wrong. Also, I disgusted by the stupid attempt at reasoning as to why the not entitled to their titles or style.

Well, Archie and Lilibet are titled and styled and there is nothing anyone can do about it. 🙂😄

But there WAS, and still is something that could be done about it. All King Charles had to do was issue new letters of patent. But he didn't. That was his choice. All the rest is just smoke and mirrors.

OP you are very invested on this.