Lilibet christened and will be using the title Princess

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What happened to just call me Harry? Why would they want their children to be burdened with titles?

“When reached by PEOPLE, a spokesperson for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex said: "I can confirm that Princess Lilibet Diana was christened on Friday, March 3 by the Archbishop of Los Angeles, the Rev John Taylor."

people.com/royals/meghan-markle-prince-harry-daughter-princess-lilibet-christened-california/

Yes, I agree. They should just get on and live their life.

The media will never, ever let them do that though. They bring in too much cash for them.

But the RF doesn't say anything about them. So Harry should just zip it back. It must be very stressful for the RF waiting to see what he's going to say next, especially knowing there's a good chance it won't be true. I don't see how,any family relationship could function under that strain.
I know people on here advise endless talking about your feelings so you can be your authentic self, but I'm of the least said, soonest mended camp. I never saw a situation that wasn't made worse by continually bringing the same stuff up over and over again. I don't see Harry getting better for quite a bit of time yet.
I know they, rightly, dont care what I think but it would be, don't talk publicly about other people, don't respond to what the media writes about you, live your best life and enjoy each day.

I think that's a very good point.

Doesn't the world's fastest selling non-fiction book EVER count as talent ?

Spare is still no 1 in the league tables and that's globally with a 4.1 rating from 62 k reviews.

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Well….the hype was massive and this book was a massive let down. Prince Harry comes across as very jealous and bitter human being that still hasn’t dealt with the tragic death of his mother. Considering the ghostwriter is Pulitzer Prized it’s really badly written, flowery, almost childlike in some chapters. He says it’s “his truth” but is it “the truth”?

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The searing image of Prince Harry and his brother Prince William walking behind their mother’s coffin is etched in all of our minds. And what I notice throughout is the most seismic event of Harry’s life, when he tragically lost his mother at the age of 12, which shapes the book. There are some interesting (sometimes funny) anecdotes about his royal life when he was younger, but threaded across the pages are also incredibly raw and emotional moments. What is also conveyed very deeply is the pitiful life of “the Spare” - often feeling as though your life has no value, no ultimate mission/goal, you have nothing to offer because you will never wear the Crown. As Prince Harry himself says, when his whole life has been told through the lens of the media, why should he not be able to (finally) tell his own story from the man who lived it! It is undeniably depressing that Harry and Meghan felt they couldn’t continue in their royal roles. They could have been a huge force for good, supporting communities in the UK and the Commonwealth, representing a true Modern Monarchy with their enviable platform and privilege. Leaked excerpts of The Duke’s memoirs don’t do his story justice. The book as a whole is a must read! Highly recommend :)

www.amazon.co.uk/Spare-Prince-Harry-Duke-Sussex/dp/0857504797www.amazon.co.uk/Spare-Prince-Harry-Duke-Sussex/dp/0857504797

By capitalising you are infringing on a precious trademark, watch out for the Windsor's. My beloved nephew is an Emperor, King is simply not enough !

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My son and his friend used to dress up as princesses in nursery. I assume they didn't have a kings outfit or maybe it was not as grand.

@MarshaMelrose - wise words.

No, of course I haven’t read the whole thread. I don’t read whole threads if they’re more than two pages long, like I don’t read the full post if they are too long. I’m not that invested.

But they can do that anyway with or without the titles. Unless there is no monarchy to come back to 😊

Unfortunately for Harry not in this case. Apart from also time travel hadn't been invented so he needed something to have been in place back in 2020.

Actually if you look at the definition I can see why people were a little 'side-eye' at Melania Trump getting it

O-1A: Individuals with an extraordinary ability in the sciences, education, business, or athletics (not including the arts, motion pictures or television industry);

O-1B: Individuals with an extraordinary ability in the arts or extraordinary achievement in motion picture or television industry;

To qualify for an O-1 visa, you must demonstrate extraordinary ability by sustained national or international acclaim, or a record of extraordinary achievement in the motion picture and television industry, and must be coming temporarily to the United States to continue work in the area of extraordinary ability.

Extraordinary ability in the fields of science, education, business or athletics means a level of expertise indicating that you are one of the small percentage who have arisen to the very top of the field.

Extraordinary ability in the field of arts means distinction. Distinction means a high level of achievement in the field of the arts. This is evidenced by a degree of skill and recognition substantially above that ordinarily encountered, to the extent that you are prominent, renowned, leading, or well-known in the field of arts.

To qualify for an O-1 visa in the motion picture or television industry, you must demonstrate extraordinary achievement. This is evidenced by a degree of skill and recognition significantly above that ordinarily encountered, to the extent that you are recognized as outstanding, notable or leading in the motion picture and/or television field.

Hey, since when have we been able to add gifs? Excellent.

@MarshaMelrose , I can't see them I'm on the app! 😭

Oops. Sorry. But they're all here. MN is really upping it's game what with keeping your right name on each thread.

I think being a prince would cover it. I don’t think generally the us immigration service pays much heed of the titles of the British royal family in terms of influence and cannot see either the gov (who he is suing) or his father (enough said) going out of their way to help him with any sway they had.
‘the only thing you absolutely need to prove is you are married.’ genuinely did you not have to go for chest x-rays, blood tests, etc for your spousal visa? I am pretty sure my brother who married in the states and was on a spousal visa had to go for two chest x rays to check for tuberculosis, give blood, be medically examined and provide quite a lot of financial info.

Well, you should do so that you don’t pronounce knowledgeably - and you imagine hilariously - on something others have already dealt with.

Please note, this meme does not refer to anyone in particular but I just love Buzz and use it on Twitter

It's all the same industry, and if you believe pap photos from all over the world end don't up in the British gutter press to feed the apparently insatiable British appetite for 'flaunted' bums and tits, salacious gossip, and unsubstantiated rumours, you should take another look at the Daily Mail and all the rest of the bilge.

The Inquest found that the conduct of the "following vehicles" (ie the paparazzi) was a factor in her death.

Isn't it. Hideously cringe.

Plus the drunk driver and the lack of seatbelt..:did they say if any was more likely the cause of her actual death?

Yes - but you have to do medicals for all immigration visas - the O visa isn't an immigration visa so to stay you have to convert it into a greencard and you have to have a reason to adjust your status - then you are in the same boat in that application and have to still do the medicals etc.

It's very expensive (for us ordinary folk!) - the UK medical costs 180 pounds and you can only do it at one doctors in London even if you live in the top end of Scotland - such a rip off.

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Well, as Mark Phillips didn't take it, it doesn't really matter what it might have been. They could have followed the Princess Margaret pattern and given the husband an Earldom, so the offspring would have been Lord/Lady (with extra option of a Viscount title for eldest boy) but not HRH. But this was rejected, both at time of marriage and remained that way when DC were born

Yeah I think my brother who was already living in the US had to drive 4 hours each way to get to the testing centre 🫠

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It basically comes down to the fact that we all inherit our titles from our father if born in wedlock. For men this situation is lifelong; women can gain the right to use a title via marriage.

For most of us, our title is simply our surname and prefix. For royalty and the aristocracy, it’s Prince(ss) or Lord/Lady whatever. But the fact that a wife’s title might outrank her husband’s, as with Princess Anne, doesn’t matter in terms of inheriting it - it still comes from the father.

Now in the days when British Princesses typically married into other European royal families or the aristocracy, it wasn’t really seen as an issue, because the sovereign’s female line grandchildren would become Prince of Denmark or Lord Huffington-Post etc. But in the modern era, where princesses have had a certain level of autonomy over their marriages, the situation where grandchildren of the sovereign are simply Master or Miss Whoever has arisen. Anthony Armstrong-Jones accepted a peerage on marriage, so Margaret’s children were titled, but Mark Phillips didn’t - hence plain old Zara and Peter. This creates the bizarre situation where Lady Amelia Windsor, for example, as a great-great-grandchild of a sovereign who died decades before her birth, has a hereditary title, yet Zara Tindall, “born in the purple” and having a close relationship with the serving sovereign for the first 40 years of her life, is just Mrs T.

(I do appreciate we’ve gone on quite a tangent from Princess Lilibet, but it’s an interesting extension of the topic 🙂)

This is so funny. Firstly, she is a true princess, whether you like it or not, it is her birthright by blood, as grandchild to the king.
Secondly, the Q gave permission for Harry to use Lilibet. It's a sweet tribute. But even so, you do realise people can and do choose any name they want for their kids? No name is "stolen", honestly.