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Will Harry and Meghan come to Coronation?

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AnnieGetYourWaterPistol · 07/03/2023 21:38

I do not think they will. They will stay away but all anyone will talk about is why they did not come and should they have come.

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ibuymeownflowers · 09/03/2023 07:10

Theunamedcat · 07/03/2023 21:54

Possibly? personally I hope they are happy and secure enough in their life's choices to come and see/support the family on the day

Same

Serenster · 09/03/2023 09:24

Given they’ve released a statement overnight saying “The children’s titles have been a birthright since their grandfather became Monarch. This matter has been settled for some time in alignment with Buckingham Palace.” Then I very much think that they will come to the coronation, and with Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet with them.

What’s the point of claiming a “birthright” for your children if you don’t then take advantage of the Coronation to present them with their new titles and amongst their royal family members?

Wheresthebeach · 09/03/2023 09:30

@Morestrangethings He's said he needs an apology to move on. It may not be a case of demanding Charles and/or William stands up and announces they're sorry, but giving public ultimatums like that makes it 'public' and the clear implication that if they do 'come back' then they've had their apology. I would bet that any apology would be publicised by Harry in one way or another as he's not one to keep quiet on any topic these days.

milti · 09/03/2023 09:37

Im anti and would rather they didn’t come - sick of seeing scowly man at these events - he’s a mood hooverer

milti · 09/03/2023 09:37

How will he get his weed if he’s in the Uk?

Bigmirrorssmallrooms · 09/03/2023 09:41

I think they will now. The fact they have grasped so hard at immediately using Princess in their kids title tells us it is all bullshit spite. They want to be part of the monarchy and it’s really all they have, if they loose it they are just a pair of no marks. So I think they will front up. Maybe even bring the kids in the hope folks won’t boo so much if the children are there, and it will get them some screen time.

they will stay at frogmore.

if I was them though I’d be thinking on to what happens when William becomes king. Which may not be as far away as they hope. The royals will be publicly polite to them at the coronation but I suspect behind closed doors they will be shunned

milti · 09/03/2023 09:48

Nobody will talk to them about anything of substance to be sure - unless they want it in the next book

Morestrangethings · 09/03/2023 10:13

CleaningOutMyCloset · 08/03/2023 11:04

What I would love to know is this...
If you are 'anti' H&M, do you want them to attend? One poster on this thread wants them to fuck off, so that is clear.
What about the rest of you? Do you want them to come so you can talk about them?
Or do you really want them not to attend?

I wouldn't say I'm anti, but I think they should stay away, if they go it will take the attention off the Coronation as all eyes will be on them and how the other royals interact with them. This is about Charles and the new king? Not H&M (even if they don't want it to be about them, it will be made about them)

i can see your point Cleaningoutyourcloset.

I just think that historically coronations have rarely (probably never) only been about those being crowned. It’s a much wider story than that. I think the bitching and backbiting of the court is ever present, as much today as it ever was it seems. I also think we are all just getting a closer look now.

EdithHowland · 09/03/2023 10:19

I would rather they didn’t come, but think they will. If they stay away, inevitably there will be some sort of attention-grabbbing move from over the pond.

I am interested in whether the pro people want them to come. They seem to duck and dive between “The young couple are busy raising their little family and are well shot of their toxic, racist family” and “It’s their riiiiiiight to be there [and we want to see them in public as much as anyone else]”

Roussette · 09/03/2023 10:24

EdithHowland · 09/03/2023 10:19

I would rather they didn’t come, but think they will. If they stay away, inevitably there will be some sort of attention-grabbbing move from over the pond.

I am interested in whether the pro people want them to come. They seem to duck and dive between “The young couple are busy raising their little family and are well shot of their toxic, racist family” and “It’s their riiiiiiight to be there [and we want to see them in public as much as anyone else]”

I think they should stay away if only because of the toxic media that will be invoked. They behaved impeccably at the Jubilee and funeral, yet were annihilated on here for instance. And in the DM and other rags.
So they're damned if they do. And damned if they don't.

Personally, my prophesy is that Harry will perhaps come on his own.

However, it is their right to be there. I'm not ducking and diving Edith. I have mixed feelings on it

Serenster · 09/03/2023 11:03

They behaved impeccably at the Jubilee and funeral, yet were annihilated on here for instance.

You have said that a few times, Roussette, and I am surprised each time. The Jubilee, I will grant you (although they didn’t attend events to which they had been invited, and at which they were expected). But when it comes to the funeral I don’t think that the following amounts to behaving impeccably:

  • Publicly announcing that Meghan would accompany Harry to his grandmother’s deathbed, then having to back track when it became that clear that it was immediate family only.
  • Letting it be known that Harry was demeaning to wear a uniform for the vigil at his grandmother’s coffin, despite the fact he had no entitlement to wear a uniform, whether under armed forces or royal rules.
  • Letting it be known that Harry was still annoyed that he no longer got to wear his aide-de-camp aiguilettes when he was specially permitted to wear his uniform (despite the fact he no longer held that role.
  • Arranging for a photo of the Sussexes to be taken at the moment when the Queen’s coffin was received at Buckingham Palace, and having their spokesman publish it, then swiftly take it down when other reporters pointed out there had been an agreement to take no pictures of the moment.

In pretty much any family I can think of, this sort of behaviour would be regarded as inappropriate.

Inkanta · 09/03/2023 11:12

I also hope they stay away for their own sakes. They don't need the unsettling toxicity of brutal media or the coldness and unpleasantness from family and palace people. Their own family is their priority now and peace of mind. Also not enough time and space has gone by since the book came out. Honest talk and uncovering secrets and family myths doesnt go down well in these kind of families.

Serenster · 09/03/2023 11:20
looking where are you GIF by The Academy Awards

Honest talk and uncovering secrets and family myths doesnt go down well in these kind of families

Please, do tell us in what kind of families a family member publishing a tell-all book, doing three tv interviews and releasing a six-hour Netflix show to broadcast every petty grievance they had had against their closest family members for as long as they can remember does go down well…??

jeffgoldblum · 09/03/2023 11:25

I was thinking that too! @Serenster

milti · 09/03/2023 11:28

Completely agree with @Serenster there are other examples - the ‘accidental’ appearance at the balcony window, flouncing off after they were booed at the church, releasing the Lilibet photo (did they even confirm it was her), strange bulges in meagains clothes, delaying the flight, pap walk down the church aisle.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/03/2023 11:48

What about the rest of you? Do you want them to come so you can talk about them? Or do you really want them not to attend?

Personally I'd prefer them not to attend because it seems the better choice after everything that's happened
Obviously this wasn't their fault, but even on the days of Philips/the Queen's funerals plenty couldn't resist speculation, and while I'm no fan of Charles I'd expect they can all do without the angst

No need for it to make them irrelevant as a PP mentioned either; I'd have thought there could be a role for them to do some commentary in the US, which is after all their target audience now

Inkanta · 09/03/2023 11:51

Please, do tell us in what kind of families a family member publishing a tell-all book

No.
Family secrets, family myths and family shame is a big conversation. Not for a forum like this. Harry exposed some of this in his book and I personally think he should stay away from the Coronation for his own sake. I suspect there is a pressure to attend though and I think he will oblige and support his dad.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/03/2023 11:55

Arranging for a photo of the Sussexes to be taken at the moment when the Queen’s coffin was received at Buckingham Palace, and having their spokesman publish it, then swiftly take it down when other reporters pointed out there had been an agreement to take no pictures of the moment

Looks like I missed that one, Serenster
I guess it'll be hard to find if it's been taken down now, but what was it a picture of? An image of H&M on some unrelated occasion, or one of them actually at the palace waiting for the Queen's arrival?

DuchessOfPort · 09/03/2023 11:58

I’m not sure the King needs the kind of “support” Prince Harry offers his relatives!

They would be better to stay home - fewer stones can be thrown for their rank hypocrisy if they do.

I note that the dreadful “palace” never leaked the private conversation over the children’s titles that was had after QE2’s funeral. And Harry carefully left it out of his book.

Whatthediddlyfeck · 09/03/2023 11:59

Roussette · 08/03/2023 08:58

They didn't do this with the funeral, so you saying this is just putting an unpleasant spin on it. They behaved impeccably at the Jubilee and the funeral, but that fact doesn't fit your narrative of course.

Are you forgetting Harry’s tantrum over not having the royal cipher on his pretend uniform?

Serenster · 09/03/2023 12:04

I guess it'll be hard to find if it's been taken down now, but what was it a picture of? An image of H&M on some unrelated occasion, or one of them actually at the palace waiting for the Queen's arrival?

It was taken looking directly though the gate of Buckingham Palace through to the main entry of the Palace, where the hearse draws up in front of a stair case leading inside. Prince Charles was standing, head bowed, on one of the steps with the hearse in front of him at ground level, and Meghan and Harry standing further up on the steps immediately behind him.

It was taken by a private papparazzi and tweeted out straightway by Omid Scobie. Then he deleted it when various people said “Hand on a minute, we were all told, and agreed, no photos once the courtege passed through the gate to Buckingham Place..?”,

Roussette · 09/03/2023 12:05

Serenster · 09/03/2023 11:03

They behaved impeccably at the Jubilee and funeral, yet were annihilated on here for instance.

You have said that a few times, Roussette, and I am surprised each time. The Jubilee, I will grant you (although they didn’t attend events to which they had been invited, and at which they were expected). But when it comes to the funeral I don’t think that the following amounts to behaving impeccably:

  • Publicly announcing that Meghan would accompany Harry to his grandmother’s deathbed, then having to back track when it became that clear that it was immediate family only.
  • Letting it be known that Harry was demeaning to wear a uniform for the vigil at his grandmother’s coffin, despite the fact he had no entitlement to wear a uniform, whether under armed forces or royal rules.
  • Letting it be known that Harry was still annoyed that he no longer got to wear his aide-de-camp aiguilettes when he was specially permitted to wear his uniform (despite the fact he no longer held that role.
  • Arranging for a photo of the Sussexes to be taken at the moment when the Queen’s coffin was received at Buckingham Palace, and having their spokesman publish it, then swiftly take it down when other reporters pointed out there had been an agreement to take no pictures of the moment.

In pretty much any family I can think of, this sort of behaviour would be regarded as inappropriate.

Well done on your bullet pointed huge list.

jeffgoldblum · 09/03/2023 12:08

Serenster · 09/03/2023 12:04

I guess it'll be hard to find if it's been taken down now, but what was it a picture of? An image of H&M on some unrelated occasion, or one of them actually at the palace waiting for the Queen's arrival?

It was taken looking directly though the gate of Buckingham Palace through to the main entry of the Palace, where the hearse draws up in front of a stair case leading inside. Prince Charles was standing, head bowed, on one of the steps with the hearse in front of him at ground level, and Meghan and Harry standing further up on the steps immediately behind him.

It was taken by a private papparazzi and tweeted out straightway by Omid Scobie. Then he deleted it when various people said “Hand on a minute, we were all told, and agreed, no photos once the courtege passed through the gate to Buckingham Place..?”,

I didn't know about that!
That's really awful, really disrespectful, I can't believe anyone thought that was appropriate.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/03/2023 12:16

Many thanks, Serenster - I'd definitely missed that

I suppose it leaves the question of who the wretched Scobie got the image from - maybe he had a deal with the pap who took it rather than H&M being directly involved? - but it certainly doesn't look good considering they're so keen to use him for leaks (court judgements revealed in a few minutes, etc.)

Wheresthebeach · 09/03/2023 12:23

@Serenster Well put. They will do similar at the Coronation if they come. The tantrum over Meighan’s attendance when the Queen was dying was awful. The family must be drained by his constant demands and trying to make everything a reality TV show. Once the Coronation is done hopefully they will fade from view and stay in the States. Not giving them more ammunition has got to be the family strategy I’d assume.