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Harry and Meghan EVICTED from Frogmore, keys handed to Prince Andrew

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tatalan · 01/03/2023 06:01

What do you think?

I'm not surprised. I wonder if Harry and Meghan will buy a new UK residence.

Harry and Meghan EVICTED from Frogmore, keys handed to Prince Andrew
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Mumsnut · 02/03/2023 06:52

This sort of general musical chairs is par for the course with the royals. The Duke of Kent once held Anmer Hall, and apartment 1 in KP. I think the Duke of Gloucester held Apartment 1A.

They have both downsized to other properties in KP in recent years. Does this reflect their gradual descent down the ladder? Did they want to downsize, or were they pushed?

Certainly, W&C now live in App1A, and around the time of their marriage, it was said that App1 was intended for Harrynand Meghan after refurbishment.

as we know, Andrew is being encouraged out of Royal Lodge

So the papers are dramatising a fairly normal reshuffle

entirelyesspresso · 02/03/2023 06:57

They don't use the property anymore, Harry has stated his home is America now. The lease was an agreement with the Queen, the property was not 'gifted' to them.

Good for Charles, he's solved the problem of Andrew being in a larger grander property at the same time. I'm glad he's taking a tougher line.

His son had betrayed him, camilla, Kate and William. Publishing private conversations and insulting and belittling them, I'm suspecting a lot of what he said was exaggerated or even lies. There is no two ways about it, Harry has actively destroyed his relationship with his family, talks of reconciliation is just a lie.

I hope Charles tackles the problem of more disused royal residences, finding practical uses for these buildings, possible opening them up to the public, would be a good idea.

nilsoften · 02/03/2023 06:57

It's got a floating yoga floor and a gender-neutral nursery and a sofa from Loaf. I'm mixing in the wrong circles.

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/03/01/how-frogmore-cottage-became-outpost-outcasts/

The cottage has a history of housing those on the fringes of royal life. Past residents include Abdul Karim, the beloved attendant of Queen Victoria who was treated with hostility by the rest of the Royal household (recently depicted in the film Victoria & Abdul) and the exiled Grand Duchess Xenia Alexandrovna of Russia. In 1875, Queen Victoria visited Frogmore Cottage for breakfast and wrote that she had seen an “immense number of little frogs” there that she found “quite disgusting”.

More recently, it was converted into apartments for workers on the Windsor estate. Since the Sussexes moved stateside, it has been largely unoccupied, although Princess Eugenie, her husband Jack Brooksbank and their son, August, moved in temporarily.

The cottage, which is secluded, completely private and comparatively humble by royal standards, is likely seen as an astute choice of home for Prince Andrew. It has not been confirmed whether he has accepted the offer – or if he has a choice in the matter. The large, Grade II listed home isn’t really a cottage in anything but name, but it is considerably smaller than Royal Lodge, the 31-bedroom mansion that Andrew has lived in since 2003 and shares with his ex-wife Sarah, Duchess of York.

At least Frogmore is newly renovated: in 2019, it was given an eco-friendly facelift with £2.4 million of taxpayer money (which the Sussexes subsequently repaid). Rumours abound about floating yoga floors, £5,000 copper baths, non-toxic paint from the Organic & Natural Paint Company and a gender-neutral nursery. But the public didn’t get a glimpse inside until Harry & Meghan aired in December last year.

Glimpses from the documentary show Frogmore Cottage has a muted colour scheme and an rustic-chic open plan kitchen straight out of Country Life magazine. One can assume this was all carefully planned given Meghan’s well-documented interest in feng shui.

The Sussexes purchased a sofa from high-street stalwart Loaf – an upgrade on the “second hand sofa we’d recently bought on sale with Meg’s credit card on sofa.com” that Harry complains about in Spare. Sleek gallery lighting replaced Harry’s Ikea lamps from Nottingham Cottage.

Howsimplywonderful · 02/03/2023 06:57

@Mumsnut

This is a fairly routine shuffle, complicated by the dramatics from Omid.

if you leave a company, you lose the grace and favour accommodation along with all the other perks It seems perfectly sensible

i’ll save my pity for those people without a home, rather than a spare one they never use

nilsoften · 02/03/2023 06:59

entirelyesspresso · 02/03/2023 06:57

They don't use the property anymore, Harry has stated his home is America now. The lease was an agreement with the Queen, the property was not 'gifted' to them.

Good for Charles, he's solved the problem of Andrew being in a larger grander property at the same time. I'm glad he's taking a tougher line.

His son had betrayed him, camilla, Kate and William. Publishing private conversations and insulting and belittling them, I'm suspecting a lot of what he said was exaggerated or even lies. There is no two ways about it, Harry has actively destroyed his relationship with his family, talks of reconciliation is just a lie.

I hope Charles tackles the problem of more disused royal residences, finding practical uses for these buildings, possible opening them up to the public, would be a good idea.

Wasn't there talk way back when of taking in Ukrainian refugees ? I take since we have heard no more it was probably KP PR virtue signalling which has never happened.

Morestrangethings · 02/03/2023 07:06

Howsimplywonderful · 02/03/2023 06:48

Harry and Meghan seem happy enough in the photos. Isn’t it so so lucky that a US photographer knew where they were just as the story broke and they were out. hmmmm

Well if they’ve arranged to be photographed looking happy, more power to them - because they are controlling their public appearances.

But I think it’s more likely it was one of those celebrity frequented restaurants where paparazzi hang around waiting, and one struck gold with Harry and Meghan last night.

Blueyandbingooo · 02/03/2023 07:07

Morestrangethings · 02/03/2023 07:06

Well if they’ve arranged to be photographed looking happy, more power to them - because they are controlling their public appearances.

But I think it’s more likely it was one of those celebrity frequented restaurants where paparazzi hang around waiting, and one struck gold with Harry and Meghan last night.

Or as they have done for the past few years, they tipped the press as to their location and made sure they were all smiles. They haven't been papped for a while so even if it was on the off chance it was a conscious decision to go somewhere they knew they'd be photographed. Very odd behaviour from people who hate the press.

Roussette · 02/03/2023 07:08

This is a fairly routine shuffle, complicated by the dramatics from Omid.

I would say it was complicated by the screaming of 'Evicted' from the rooftops by the tabloids
The headlines are ridiculous. And they came first. Before anything from Scobie.

tatalan · 02/03/2023 07:09

Blueyandbingooo · 02/03/2023 07:07

Or as they have done for the past few years, they tipped the press as to their location and made sure they were all smiles. They haven't been papped for a while so even if it was on the off chance it was a conscious decision to go somewhere they knew they'd be photographed. Very odd behaviour from people who hate the press.

So they're not allowed to go anywhere nice because of paps?

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Roussette · 02/03/2023 07:10

Blueyandbingooo · 02/03/2023 07:07

Or as they have done for the past few years, they tipped the press as to their location and made sure they were all smiles. They haven't been papped for a while so even if it was on the off chance it was a conscious decision to go somewhere they knew they'd be photographed. Very odd behaviour from people who hate the press.

As a PP said, it was probably a pap shot turned lucky. You don't know they tipped the press off
Even if they did, good on them, why not. They looked like they were having a great time.

Not odd at all. The RF do it daily.

tatalan · 02/03/2023 07:11

Roussette · 02/03/2023 07:08

This is a fairly routine shuffle, complicated by the dramatics from Omid.

I would say it was complicated by the screaming of 'Evicted' from the rooftops by the tabloids
The headlines are ridiculous. And they came first. Before anything from Scobie.

Right. The Sun started with Frogxit, broke the exclusive and their mocking front pages, they've done another one today. But sure, blame Omid.

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Spectre8 · 02/03/2023 07:24

Blueyandbingooo · 02/03/2023 07:07

Or as they have done for the past few years, they tipped the press as to their location and made sure they were all smiles. They haven't been papped for a while so even if it was on the off chance it was a conscious decision to go somewhere they knew they'd be photographed. Very odd behaviour from people who hate the press.

People are allowed to go out for dinners you know. I mean ffs seriously do you really think they should never leave their house

They went to a restaurant which doesn't even allow phones inside they could of picked any other restaurant but they went to that one.

And they are always going to be followed and photographed because the paps know the British media will want to make dozens of nonsensical stories and it'll make the pap money. If you were a pap thats quite a lucrative pic to take.

Blueyandbingooo · 02/03/2023 07:28

Spectre8 · 02/03/2023 07:24

People are allowed to go out for dinners you know. I mean ffs seriously do you really think they should never leave their house

They went to a restaurant which doesn't even allow phones inside they could of picked any other restaurant but they went to that one.

And they are always going to be followed and photographed because the paps know the British media will want to make dozens of nonsensical stories and it'll make the pap money. If you were a pap thats quite a lucrative pic to take.

Sure thing :)

nilsoften · 02/03/2023 07:51

In Britain the paps get a quick bum's rush from the Royals so they are mostly with brief exceptions left in peace.

Littleflowerseverywhere · 02/03/2023 07:58

To be fair harry and Meghan have confirmed they are being evicted. It’s not a media thing. But harry and Meghan said served notice, which is the same thing,

I just can’t understand why anyone would look at that pair, know rhey live in the USA , that they have been selling gossip on the monarchy for money, should be entitled to the use of a 5 bed propert and it should sit their empty all year apart from a max one or two days,

it’s much more sensible someone like Andrew moves in, he’s no need of a 30 bedroom 98 acre estate,

MrsMaxDeWinter · 02/03/2023 08:03

Oh dear.

This is all going down like a lead balloon. Stories in American media are along the lines of "Harry and Meghan evicted for disgraced Andrew."

The hashtag KingCharlesTheCruel is trending yet again on Twitter.

A "Royal Correspondent" on GBNews, of all places, expressed concern that this was a bad look for Charles, a view she said was shared by "Royal Correspondents" in their WhatsApp group who believe this is really bad PR for Charles.

Charles and his advisors should have just cancelled the lease without linking the premises to Andrew. But these are not people who operate transparently, they rely on the media to do their propaganda, but even the fervent monarchists are finding it hard to spin "King evicts son and grandkids for disgraced brother."

And if all of this, as stated by Rebecca English, is to enable William and Kate to have a SIXTH royal residence, then buckle up Buttercup, it's going to be a bumpy ride. (Ephraim Hardcastle had a rather cutting piece this morning about W and K's current five residences.)

Is it a soap, is it an opera, no it's the Windsors!

nilsoften · 02/03/2023 08:03

Littleflowerseverywhere · 02/03/2023 07:58

To be fair harry and Meghan have confirmed they are being evicted. It’s not a media thing. But harry and Meghan said served notice, which is the same thing,

I just can’t understand why anyone would look at that pair, know rhey live in the USA , that they have been selling gossip on the monarchy for money, should be entitled to the use of a 5 bed propert and it should sit their empty all year apart from a max one or two days,

it’s much more sensible someone like Andrew moves in, he’s no need of a 30 bedroom 98 acre estate,

If Andrew would comply with the FBI there could be a small room free of charge become available to him in due course. His nephew could come to visit him from time to time.

purpledalmation · 02/03/2023 08:08

@MrsMaxDeWinter I didn't say they were invading 'my' privacy, because of course they aren't. That's absurd and you're attempting to deflect what I actually say. I said they are invading the whole country's and the RFs privacy with their claims we are a racist country and their #worldwide privacy tour. They just need to shut up now and leave us all in peace.

Howsimplywonderful · 02/03/2023 08:10

The Sussex PR hard at work again 🥱

nilsoften · 02/03/2023 08:10

MrsMaxDeWinter · 02/03/2023 08:03

Oh dear.

This is all going down like a lead balloon. Stories in American media are along the lines of "Harry and Meghan evicted for disgraced Andrew."

The hashtag KingCharlesTheCruel is trending yet again on Twitter.

A "Royal Correspondent" on GBNews, of all places, expressed concern that this was a bad look for Charles, a view she said was shared by "Royal Correspondents" in their WhatsApp group who believe this is really bad PR for Charles.

Charles and his advisors should have just cancelled the lease without linking the premises to Andrew. But these are not people who operate transparently, they rely on the media to do their propaganda, but even the fervent monarchists are finding it hard to spin "King evicts son and grandkids for disgraced brother."

And if all of this, as stated by Rebecca English, is to enable William and Kate to have a SIXTH royal residence, then buckle up Buttercup, it's going to be a bumpy ride. (Ephraim Hardcastle had a rather cutting piece this morning about W and K's current five residences.)

Is it a soap, is it an opera, no it's the Windsors!

hmm like Charles and Camilla live in separate houses it looks like W&K may be going down the same route. At least with the late Queen, it was only separate bedrooms. At first Bowyer et al. winged that Charles should grow a pair and give the couple the bum's rush, so it looks like he may have but overshot the target. This is quite the Royal Knockout.

tatalan · 02/03/2023 08:10

purpledalmation · 02/03/2023 08:08

@MrsMaxDeWinter I didn't say they were invading 'my' privacy, because of course they aren't. That's absurd and you're attempting to deflect what I actually say. I said they are invading the whole country's and the RFs privacy with their claims we are a racist country and their #worldwide privacy tour. They just need to shut up now and leave us all in peace.

But Harry specifically said it was the papers that were bigoted NOT the people 🤔

He has never ever called the british people racist.

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Roussette · 02/03/2023 08:12

Littleflowerseverywhere · 02/03/2023 07:58

To be fair harry and Meghan have confirmed they are being evicted. It’s not a media thing. But harry and Meghan said served notice, which is the same thing,

I just can’t understand why anyone would look at that pair, know rhey live in the USA , that they have been selling gossip on the monarchy for money, should be entitled to the use of a 5 bed propert and it should sit their empty all year apart from a max one or two days,

it’s much more sensible someone like Andrew moves in, he’s no need of a 30 bedroom 98 acre estate,

The thing is.... Having read this thread it appears that just about everyone thinks this is a good idea. Posters who are more pro M&H agree with this move. No one is saying they should be entitled to this property. Whether the decision taken was done in the right manner is another matter. Ditto the fact they paid for a refurb, and not just decorations

Roussette · 02/03/2023 08:14

I would put money on Andrew never residing there.

You heard it here first 😇

ReneBumsWombats · 02/03/2023 08:17

Roussette · 02/03/2023 08:14

I would put money on Andrew never residing there.

You heard it here first 😇

Does he have a choice? They all belong to the Crown Estate, surely he has to go where the landlord tells him?

Lizziet64 · 02/03/2023 08:17

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