Harry and Meghan EVICTED from Frogmore, keys handed to Prince Andrew

[tatalan]

What do you think?

I'm not surprised. I wonder if Harry and Meghan will buy a new UK residence.

The DT (normally a pro Charles paper) says he will regret taking tea with Uvdl at Windsor.

And across the water ... the NYT says Charles is facing a backlash on it.

Other media talks of it 'sweetening the deal' .

Academics, MPs, and front bench Ministers have criticised it.

They must all be 'wilfully ignorant' too of course. Not just me.

He's received a lot of criticism for it.

Could that be why their friends spoke to The Telegraph?

What did this 'friend' tell the Telegraph?

What friends - the "five young mums" again? 😂I'm still searching for one young mum among that group

@EdithWeston if you read what @tatalan said at 13:31 @Lizziet64 response at 13:35 and then @AmandaJonah response at 13:38 and them my response at 14:20 it’s clear @AmandaJonah got the wrong wedding as I was pointing out.

The point being made was KC was cruel to hold his coronation on Archie’s birthday. We were pointing out it’s not unusual for the RF e.g. Anne Married on Charles’ birthday (1973).

The announcement of the divorce before the 1992 wedding is not in doubt but is not relevant to the discussion.

Date of story - June 2021.

So that expired two months ago, and there have been discussions about the property's future.

Sounds pretty normal to me.

HMQ shook hands with Martin McGuiness during NI negotiations
She entertained various foreign leaders when asked to by the Govt
Ceauscescu to name one. This is no different

I get the principle here, but the Queen was widely regarded as a lady of great discretion, disinclined to meddle even at times when some felt she should

Unfortunately the same can hardly be said about her son, so my own doubts aren't so much about him meeting Ursula at all, but what he could potentially have used to occasion for

It's behind a paywall, so mustn't quote directly.

But basically they say that the future of Frogmore Cottage has been under discussion for some weeks, according to friends of the Sussexes.

Thank you.

🤷‍♀️. He was supposed to meet her earlier in the week and the govt cancelled it. Now the govt wanted it to go ahead. I guess he's just doing as the govt asks. He doesn't have the queens natural cautiousness, honed over the years. I suspect he quite likes being in the middle of it all. But end of the day, it's the govt's call.

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And how many properties do the other royals have, that are mostly left empty? W&K have about four or five alone, pretty sure they are left empty most of the time. Nobody ever needs more than 1 property yet of course it's only a problem when it's Meghan and Harry. Pretty tone deaf of the whole family to have so much anyway, I would say.

I think they are doing exactly what you found so irritating when applied to other royal family members - making up a royal “protocol” in order to make a dig at the royal in questions’ perfectly acceptable actions.

The deal's done, though. The time when he could have meddled was earlier but that meeting was cancelled. The king can't manipulate anything now because they deal has been published. It's in the politicians hands now.

There is a lot doing that. They must be so wilfully ignorant musn't they....

So many find it unacceptable even if you don't.

It hasn't been voted on yet. The DUP are still considering.

Isn’t all of this re-organising who lives in which property not a natural outcome following the death of the head of the family?

How often do we see on MN questions about siblings jointly inheriting a property, holiday home etc. and they all want to live in it, or some want to keep and others sell. It’s just on a larger scale.

With the RF, the hierarchy means everyone moves up but with new members some have moved down. Some older members no longer need accommodation for children but those children now need bigger homes for their growing families. Some have stepped back from royal duties, some live abroad etc.

KC is now the CEO of the family firm, and like many in his position he is reviewing and restructuring for the future. The previous CEO may, quite naturally, have been unwilling to make difficult decisions in their later years meaning this is a bigger series of changes than in normal business as usual reviews.

So many find it unacceptable even if you don't.

I’m sure they do. However, unless I’m much mistaken, they don’t create the constitutional conventions, so what they think it’s terribly relevant.

The king can't manipulate anything now because they deal has been published

Regarding this particular deal you're quite right, but I was thinking of the bigger picture in light of Ursula's position

Not having been there I obviously can't say, but on known form I'd be absolutely amazed if Charles resisted the opportunity to lobby for some personal interest or other

Yes, I said that. It's in the politicians' hands now. Charles can't influence or manipulate the deal anymore. But that's why he's getting criticism from people who don't like the deal. They'll throw anything at it so it doesn't go through.

Surely King Charles just does what the government instruct him to do, exactly like the Queen before him, I really don’t see why everyone is getting their knickers in a twist over this, I don’t imagine Charles sent Ursula a WhatsApp message behind Rishi’s back saying pop over for a cuppa and we will sort out a deal, the man is just doing his job that we pay him for.

Exactly.

Why are H&M bothered by this?

They never intended to live in the UK again.
They've bought a bigger house in the US where they now live. Why do they want a 5 bedroom house in a country they don't intend to live in?

How is it cruel to stop renting a house to people who already live in a better house? Misusue of the term cruel!

They could use this as an opportunity to be magnanimous which would help them. They could state: we have lovely memories of our days at frogmore with baby Archie but our family is now US based so we understand the house should now be used and enjoyed by other families and we'll always remember it and Windsor fondly and hope to visit the area whenever we're back in the UK.

But instead they're playing the eternal victims again and asking for sympathy because they now only have one house.
Utterly deluded.

He'll certainly be trying to get the measure of her. She's not much depth so that shouldn't take too long! And yes, he'll certainly be chatting about global warming etc, things close to his heart. I mean, are we really concerned about that? If he starts telling people who to vote for, he might have problems, but talking about global issues is nothing different from what the Queen used to do. One of the strengths of having a monarch as head of state is that they maintain friendships and relationships between countries and heads of state, even as govts and politicians change . It keeps stability and continuity.