Harry and Gabor

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My friend just sent me this. I adore Gabor mate and the work he does. His book 'in the realms of hungry ghosts' was life changing for me who had suffered serious addiction issues. But am I being too harsh to feel disappointed he's jumping on this band wagon of garbage. I'm sorry but Harry we're sick of listening to your trauma and no offence you've sung it to death, (and I don't even think it's that bad relative to how much he has gone on and on about it) and trauma aside you're a complete hypocrite with how you've treated you're family and the trauma you've put them through!!

Nothing says privacy like selling tickets to your therapy session #worldwideprivacytour

It's clear from the article that Charles never gave this story to the press. Harry had lied to the palace press office that he'd never done cocaine. The palace took him at his word and issued a denial. The News of the World came back with evidence.
So Harry got them to that point.

The article says Mark Bolland couldn't lie and say he wasn't into drink and drugs. They had evidence he was. Even Harry says he was. So Bolland told them that Charles had taken him to the rehab centre to scare him. Which kiboshed the implication that Harry was a resident.

Harry contradicts this and says that it was a "typical part of (his) princely charitable work". 🙄
I mean, do you seriously think a rehab centre with serious drug addicts in attendance allows a 26/17yo on its premises for a chat without parental permission? You think Harry came up with the idea of visiting the centre on his own? Of course Charles had a hand in it. Otherwise why would Harry be feeling happy to start reveaing his drug use of much more than just cocaine and cannabis to these strangers on an official visit? He's just issued a denial to the papers and he thinks no one there is going to sell his story?

And what is this extensive list of princely charitable work he was doing at 17?

The problem when you tell so many lies, is it's hard to keep them straight.

And if this story rehabilitated Charles, that must be because he did the right thing. That's a good thing, isn't it?

The only other things the article talks about regarding family, is Prince Edward and his production company disobeying palace instructions to the media to leave St Andrews after the photocall. Instead PE decided to try and invade his own nephews privacy by staying around. Naturally Charles was cross.

And, of course, the Camilla/William story, which has been roundly debunked.

It's part of the worldwide privacy tour.

@milti Sorry, pressed to soon, meant to say...it's part of the world wide privacy tour??? Who would have guessed 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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This 'discussion' is yet another cynical move to merchandise the couples 'trauma' and sell more of the book. It will be carefully stage managed, and none of the questions put to him will ask the real questions. Harry and Meghan have got away with a disgusting litany of lies and misdirection, attacking both their families, the monarchy and the British people. Their only legitimate target was the media/SM. This is just one more whine fest from Harry. He was not emotionally abused or neglected. Until 12 he had a loving mother and his father has always loved him. He calls him 'my darling boy'. He's always had a friend in his brother.

Harry's mental health problems have had years of expensive therapy as has his drug taking. He's just a sad and unhappy individual without the mental reserves to address his issues not matter what help he gets.

When he moved to America with the woman he loved and his little family he had the opportunity and the money to live a quiet, happy life instead the pair of them decided to spread hate, lies and jealousy to live a very unquiet life. And look how that's ended. Less popular than prince Andrew and a bloody laughingstock.

Now is the time to STFU Harry. Maybe Gabore Mate will tell him that

The thing that stands out for me is Harry, aged 16 or 17, having to talk to the palace press office about whether or not he’s used drugs. There’s so much wrong with this.

And, at that age, I would have done as Harry did and denied it too.

I wonder who the ideas are coming from. Was it Harry’s idea to do this interview and write his book or go on the speaking circuit to tell bankers about his mother’s death? I wonder if it’s his publicity agents, his PR advisors , Meghan, his friends? I don’t think they are entirely his ideas .

Yes, I agree. I don’t think Charles was great at heart to hearts or being a very hands on father. Drug taking was probably well beyond his comfort zone. It seems Harry has turned to other father figures in his life for help and guidance. One of those left his employ when he met Meghan. He needs a firm hand to steer the tiller in my opinion. Meghan has taken over and she’s steering an erratic course .
Charles seems to have turned to Mountbatten as he didn’t get on with his own father. Mountbatten was a prime mover is brokering the marriage to Diana. Look how that turned out. There is a history of sons not getting on with fathers or receiving the guidance and support they needed in the RF. Either their spouses became pivotal in their lives or they went to the bad. In the case of Victoria, her husband was her ‘strength and stay’ as she didn’t get on with her mother. It’s all so dysfunctional.

Podcast recording of what Mate will be discussing in this twitter thread mobile.twitter.com/jozzzaphen/status/1631694945441415175

I hope it'll be possible for the rest of us to listen to this conversation. I think Gabor will ask good questions

I read some of the twitter responses. They're hashtagging #CharlestheCruel. I love that.
Ivan the Terrible used to impale people alive.
Charles the Cruel repurposes a house no one's using. How times change. 😂😂

Charles the cruel?!!? I bet Charles the cruel paid that 2.4 mil tax repayment (for the renovations to frogmore that taxpayers funded initially)

Prove that. That's your take on it. The SG yearly report states H&M paid it back. Sorry

@Roussette But Charles tax returns prove he bankrolled Harry and Meghan for one year despite Harry saying he cut him off immediately. If Harry paid the 2.4 million refurbishment fees he has every right to claim it back. He's not doing so as maybe he has been repaid, because he sure as hell would be shouting this out to the media that his dad had robbed him. He would pass up a chance to make his dad look mean.

Yes. Why not do 2 +2 and make it 10.

Theory on your part.

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Cheers Vix ! 🍷

@Roussette tax returns are not theory.

I thought this thread was about Gabor 😀 but I’m always happy to discuss tax returns I’m not convinced by Gabor’s theories about adhd and trauma, but I’m not sure if anyone is interesting in discussing Gabor’s work ?

Sorry?

It says in his tax returns, he paid H&M £2.4M for Frogmore? Really?

I read the Monarchy SG reports. Says different.

Thanks MoChridhe, I listened to two of the recordings and it sounds like it’s going to be a very interesting conversation.

This is true.

“I mean, do you seriously think a rehab centre with serious drug addicts in attendance allows a 26/17yo on its premises for a chat without parental permission? You think Harry came up with the idea of visiting the centre on his own? Of course Charles had a hand in it.”

I’m astonished that any drug or alcohol rehab would allow anyone to come in and speak to the residents about the impact drugs are having on their lives etc.. I’d imagine people are pretty fragile then, and shouldn’t be used as examples of why you don’t do drugs etc.. Shouldn’t their privacy and dignity be respected, even by the Royal Family? It certainly should be respected by the rehab centre treating those people.

As a person with toxic parents and a dysfunctional family, I totally understand what you are saying. It never fully goes away. I 100% agree that they only way to move on is to stop caring. Which is very hard to do when it is a parent or sibling.