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"Kate's Rebranding Masterclass May Finally See off Meghan"

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/02/2023 14:13

"Five months since she moved up to the second tier of the monarchy, the Princess has started beefing up her top team to make sure she succeeds not only with her “life’s work” on child development, but also with the task of besting Meghan Markle."

Why does Meghan have to look bad for Kate to look good? Why does Meghan need to be bested or seen off? Why is it a competition?

archive.ph/2023.02.08-070754/www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/02/08/kates-rebranding-masterclass-may-finally-see-meghan/

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Coxspurplepippin · 09/02/2023 19:11

'How's her mother supposed to break through? Through the window?'

Come on now - Meghan wasn't some fairy tale princess except in her own mind being kept prisoner and denied visitors. She could have said, oh, my Mum's coming to stay - could someone pick her up from the airport......

Bugeyedowl · 09/02/2023 19:14

Coxspurplepippin · 09/02/2023 18:54

'Meghan was suicidal and was not helped by them. They left not because they wanted everything their way but because they wanted to get their sanity back. Meghan tried really hard when she joined and did a lot of successful work in two years,'

The person who should have helped Meghan was her husband.

They were together as part of the RF for a scant 18 months, much of which Meghan would have been on maternity leave for. I imagine they had plans to leave either before they were married or shortly thereafter, no time to give things a chance. We know Harry had dreams of moving to, living and working in Africa. Their lives now seem so far removed from his dreams. I wonder what went wrong?

They were together as part of the RF for a scant 18 months, much of which Meghan would have been on maternity leave for.

She did a lot of work, even while pregnant, such as Grenfrell and Smartworks, both successful projects, among others. So in that short time she wasn't just sitting on her arse.

pilates · 09/02/2023 19:17

Perhaps Megs was locked in a turret like Rapunzal. So we’ve established she was actually let down by her husband and her mother. The problem is like the boy who called wolf you just don’t know what to believe. 🤷🏻‍♀️

smileladiesplease · 09/02/2023 19:18

I think the only people embaressing Meg snd Harold are themselves.

Bugeyedowl · 09/02/2023 19:28

She was let down by the Royal Family too. Considering she was living with them. She must have felt trapped because they wouldn't allow her to even leave to visit a clinic. They live in a gilded cage, which must have felt really weird for an outsider who's used to their freedom.

We don't know what her mother knew, suicidal thinking isn't rational. She probably didn't tell her. That's very normal, to not tell close relatives that you're feeling suicidal. But we don't know. But somehow it's easy to blame her rather than the toxic in laws she was living with, right?

Coxspurplepippin · 09/02/2023 19:33

She wasn't 'living with' the rf. She was living in her own home.

Why was Meghan so adamant she wanted in patient care? Perhaps she was advised not to because if she was recognised the press pack would have had a field day.

Lizziet64 · 09/02/2023 19:34

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smilesy · 09/02/2023 19:34

Bugeyedowl · 09/02/2023 19:28

She was let down by the Royal Family too. Considering she was living with them. She must have felt trapped because they wouldn't allow her to even leave to visit a clinic. They live in a gilded cage, which must have felt really weird for an outsider who's used to their freedom.

We don't know what her mother knew, suicidal thinking isn't rational. She probably didn't tell her. That's very normal, to not tell close relatives that you're feeling suicidal. But we don't know. But somehow it's easy to blame her rather than the toxic in laws she was living with, right?

If you are suicidal, you need help. Fast. Why would you feel the need to pick and choose where and how you receive that help? Why the need to go to a clinic? Andas has been said in previous threads, members of the RF have been admitted to clinics for help (the Duchess of Kent was one I think). Once initial help had been sought, then maybe she could have for to a clinic. I am wondering how the suicidal thoughts were dealt with, as they clearly were. Perhaps it was her midwifery team as they are on the lookout for mental health issues in expectant mothers. 🤷‍♀️

Ohnonevermind · 09/02/2023 19:36

Trapped people don’t make 13 trips abroad.

She managed to make it to NY while pregnant. I’m sure her mum attended her baby shower ?

Ohnonevermind · 09/02/2023 19:37

The upcoming deposition could be very informative.

derxa · 09/02/2023 19:41

We don't know what her mother knew, suicidal thinking isn't rational. She probably didn't tell her. She did. Doria said so on the netflix doc.

ArcaneWireless · 09/02/2023 19:41

But we don't know.

But somehow it's easy to blame her rather than the toxic in laws she was living with, right?

Or is it just easier to blame the toxic in-laws instead of the husband she was living with, right?

Bugeyedowl · 09/02/2023 19:47

@ArcaneWireless yes I've already established he should have done more.

ArcaneWireless · 09/02/2023 20:06

So why insinuate her in laws were to to blame? She wasn’t trapped. Her mother was free to help. Her husband was.

You say he should have done more. You said “Harry said he tried to ask too but they said no.”

So he choose to do nothing then because they allegedly said no?

And although she may have felt trapped as you put it, she wasn’t. That has been established.

If she was too unwell to seek her own help then I don’t believe they were not allowed to seek help for her.

Help could have been arranged when she went overseas. Why didn’t they do that?

Imagine letting the woman you love flounder. That is shameful.

mathanxiety · 09/02/2023 20:11

The article proves yet again that paper never refused ink.

Inkpotlover · 09/02/2023 20:18

Let me get this straight, OP. You've started a thread to deride a newspaper article that pits Kate against Meghan and then have proceeded to do exactly the same under the veil of 'oh but it's a discussion'. The reason the papers are making it a rivalry is because people like you are fuelling it. Don't pretend this thread isn't anything other than an excuse for a 'Kate's rubbish, Meghan's great' pile on.

And before you ask, I'm not a particular fan of either. They both seem like decent women in their own ways.

ArcaneWireless · 09/02/2023 20:26

Indeed inkpot

purpledalmation · 09/02/2023 20:31

Her mother was in a different country and Meghan was trapped in the palace. How's her mother supposed to break through? Through the window?

Trapped? Yet she flew off to a baby shower in america?

The suicidal thoughts are something only meghan and harry have said. And we both know they are liars. Meghans midwife and obstetrician would have asked specifically about mental health. Its their flaming job FGS.

Meghan did show the RF having a good PR team can help with positive press. All the newspaper article is saying is that Kate is now using similar techniques and hoping it will improve the chances of under 5s, not pitting one against the other.

Meghan needs to learn to tell the truth and focus on her projects and Kate needs to up her game and make a difference.

Luckydip1 · 09/02/2023 20:33

Kate can hardly compete with Meghan who is gorgeous. Kate is more of a very nice but plain Jane.

Rhondaa · 09/02/2023 20:37

Luckydip1 · 09/02/2023 20:33

Kate can hardly compete with Meghan who is gorgeous. Kate is more of a very nice but plain Jane.

Funny how we all see things differently. Catherine has a natural beauty and charisma, like Princess Di.
Harold's wife is of course attractive but not remotely in the same league.

MarshaBradyo · 09/02/2023 20:41

I wouldn’t rate them against each other but I don’t think Kate is a plain Jane

She looks fab

nonheme · 09/02/2023 20:44

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RainyDaysareCarp · 09/02/2023 20:49

notanotheroneagain · 09/02/2023 11:13

Oh no @Roussette

If it's the ad I am thinking of (with a male attendant with glitter eye make up?). That is way too diverse for MNers. 😂😂

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RainyDaysareCarp · 09/02/2023 20:52

Bugeyedowl · 09/02/2023 19:14

They were together as part of the RF for a scant 18 months, much of which Meghan would have been on maternity leave for.

She did a lot of work, even while pregnant, such as Grenfrell and Smartworks, both successful projects, among others. So in that short time she wasn't just sitting on her arse.

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You forgot writing on bananas too.

Coxspurplepippin · 09/02/2023 20:52

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I think, very sensibly, the Queen (the proper one Grin) recognised that William and Kate, bearing in mind they'll probably be working 'til they drop off the perch, needed time to cement their relationship, ensure their children have a solid start in life - I mean so much has been made of Harry's difficulties because he didn't have the best childhood/adolescence, surely ensuring Kate and William's kids have a solid family foundation can only be a good thing.

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