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Harry and Meghan and the coronation.

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purpledalmation · 06/02/2023 20:14

If King Charles asked people not to boo the couple and did a deal with newspapers and TV to not print pictures of them or comment on their appearance, do you think they would come.

If there was a total news blackout where they were concerned (which I would just love!) so we didn't have to even see them, (apart from a passing glimpse), i think I could bear them coming. Daddy clearly want them there. Fatted calf and all that.

Would this get around the problem of them taking the spotlight away from the actual ceremony?

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Samcro · 16/02/2023 15:00

SirChenjins · 16/02/2023 12:55

Really? You think that a tragedy of this magnitude and horror with all the deeply personal grief and shock needs a sleb rocking up to 'raise awareness'? Who benefitted from this exposure and photographs, do you think? (It was MM, in case you hasn't guessed).

but Kate went to a vigil in the middle of lockdown.
why shouldn't Meghan lay flowers at the scene of a shooting, or is it only because its Meghan its wrong. well of course I know the answer.

AliceOlive · 16/02/2023 15:04

Samcro · 16/02/2023 15:00

but Kate went to a vigil in the middle of lockdown.
why shouldn't Meghan lay flowers at the scene of a shooting, or is it only because its Meghan its wrong. well of course I know the answer.

Because Kate represents the Royal Family and they are expected to be present at tragedies.

Meghan has no role or position in the United States. In fact, she had only been living back in the US for a brief moment after having lived in Canada and then the UK when this happened. We don't expect private citizens to show up a sites of grave tragedy here.

OutofEverything · 16/02/2023 15:08

But it was made clear that Kate went as a private citizen.

Plitvice · 16/02/2023 15:11

Kate never brought a camera or publicised any aspect of her visit.

jeffgoldblum · 16/02/2023 15:12

Did Meghan go as ' Meghan ' or did she go as the Duchess of Sussex ?

milti · 16/02/2023 15:12

I’m green!

Harry and Meghan and the coronation.
OutofEverything · 16/02/2023 15:19

Kate took a photographer on her private visit.

Lizziet64 · 16/02/2023 15:22

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AliceOlive · 16/02/2023 15:25

OutofEverything · 16/02/2023 15:08

But it was made clear that Kate went as a private citizen.

Kate attended a public vigil. Like it or not, she's does not exist as a private citizen.

MM arranged jet and flew to another state bringing security and staff along with her at a time when no public event was occurring. Either brought her own photographer/videographer or knowingly marched out in front of them.

OutofEverything · 16/02/2023 15:43

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Aye sure she was.

OutofEverything · 16/02/2023 15:49

AliceOlive · 16/02/2023 15:25

Kate attended a public vigil. Like it or not, she's does not exist as a private citizen.

MM arranged jet and flew to another state bringing security and staff along with her at a time when no public event was occurring. Either brought her own photographer/videographer or knowingly marched out in front of them.

The vigil was declared illegal and women were arrested who attended. When the media questioned about Kate's attendance the Palace made it very clear she attended as a private citizen.

MrsFinkelstein · 16/02/2023 15:49

notanotheroneagain · 16/02/2023 12:33

If she wanted that she would have swan in at centre stage, with curtsies and special treatment just like the royals.

She came as one of the plebs to lay flowers and pay her respects. The press noticed her? So be it, she raised money for that playground on the back of it. A small tangible positivity for the school.

You all would have been criticism how she did not go less than 80miles away from her home. She had the opportunity, she went.

Uvalde is well over a 1000 miles from Montecito. 🤨

EdithWeston · 16/02/2023 15:51

We are now supposed to forget that Tony Blair pays for his own security when not at home. And Kate Moss also paid for her own jaunt protected by the met

Blair gets security wherever he is, not because he opts to defray part of the expenses of providing it. He would receive it irrespective of whether he chose to pay, because RAVEC have decided the threat against him warrants it.

Kate Moss has never had personal protection. She did once hold an event that required police crowd control/traffic management, and she paid costs in the same way as eg football clubs and other large event organisers pay part of the regular policing costs. But that is entirely unrelated to the (specialist) function of personal protection

Sagharbor · 16/02/2023 15:56

The fact that you are posing this question on mumsnet and have received over 400 answers should be indication of the vast interest people have in this couple.

The media is the one that profits from this, it definitely will not agree to any blackout as evident during the queen's funeral.

Sagharbor · 16/02/2023 16:00

Samcro · 07/02/2023 09:49

i can't understand why anyone would boo them. weird. I can get booing a politician, they actually affect our lives.
but H&M don't get it.
hope they do come, both of them and their children.

@Samcro

You're spot on.

Why would adults boo a couple that have not had a personal impact on them?

It just sounds crass and immature.

skullbabe · 16/02/2023 16:02

BadgerB · 16/02/2023 06:44

skullbabe · Today 01:32
(Literally Meghan breathing, doing a podcast, reading to her child, visiting Uvalde - all of these things have been taken as an affront to the RF by many on MN - who knows why)

Uvalde! Perhaps the worse mis-step M has made. How could even a narcissist like her think a photo-op among such terrible grief was a good look? Nothing to do with the RF

Precisely nothing to do with the RF and yet you are criticising her. If you continue to insist that Uvalde was a photo op regardless of what the actual reporters on the ground and the people there there said about it - it is apparent that there is nothing she can do without people like you always ascribing malign intentions.

Samcro · 16/02/2023 16:03

OutofEverything · 16/02/2023 15:49

The vigil was declared illegal and women were arrested who attended. When the media questioned about Kate's attendance the Palace made it very clear she attended as a private citizen.

and it was during lockdown.
but guess what , I think its fine she went. same as I think its fine Meghan went.
but Kate even though it was against the rules at the time....posters make excuses.
Meghan does similar and gets bashed.

AliceOlive · 16/02/2023 16:04

Sagharbor · 16/02/2023 16:00

@Samcro

You're spot on.

Why would adults boo a couple that have not had a personal impact on them?

It just sounds crass and immature.

Agree. It's horrible behavior and serves no one. No respectable person would do this.

WinnieTheW0rm · 16/02/2023 16:04

I think people are more likely to snigger than boo

After all, who can look at him now without thinking dog bowl, frostbite and 8 Hour Cream?

SquirmOfEels · 16/02/2023 16:09

Samcro · 16/02/2023 16:03

and it was during lockdown.
but guess what , I think its fine she went. same as I think its fine Meghan went.
but Kate even though it was against the rules at the time....posters make excuses.
Meghan does similar and gets bashed.

The (then) Duchess visited mid after-noon, not during either the 18:30 vigil let alone the rally following.

People visited to pay their respects over a good 5 days. There was only one period of a couple of hours when crowd control was used.

There were no restrictions against being outdoors in small groups at the time, and aside from the evening rally, that is how thousands of people paid their respects with no hindrance whatsoever

(I'm very local, so saw events myself)

Cam22 · 16/02/2023 16:15

AliceOlive · 16/02/2023 12:40

No, that just doesn’t float in the US. We saw the setup. The photographers surrounding her. The press release from her PR people.

You can fool yourself, no one else is fooled by it.

Also, we don’t have “plebs” here. Comments like that demonstrate values.

Of course you have plebeians there and lots of them. They are everywhere. It means commoners.

Cam22 · 16/02/2023 16:17

AliceOlive · 16/02/2023 16:04

Agree. It's horrible behavior and serves no one. No respectable person would do this.

If they do come - although no one wants them here - let’s hope the boos dominate. They certainly don’t get cheers because they are utterly undeserving of them.

notanotheroneagain · 16/02/2023 16:19

EdithWeston · 16/02/2023 15:51

We are now supposed to forget that Tony Blair pays for his own security when not at home. And Kate Moss also paid for her own jaunt protected by the met

Blair gets security wherever he is, not because he opts to defray part of the expenses of providing it. He would receive it irrespective of whether he chose to pay, because RAVEC have decided the threat against him warrants it.

Kate Moss has never had personal protection. She did once hold an event that required police crowd control/traffic management, and she paid costs in the same way as eg football clubs and other large event organisers pay part of the regular policing costs. But that is entirely unrelated to the (specialist) function of personal protection

Tony Blair has 24/7 security at his home. Always. When he travels he takes the Met with him and fairly pays for it.
Presumably, when Boris leaves Carry and dc behind (if he has ever done), he pays for any security he takes - press tend to be quiet on that front.
That should be the case for all ex PMs and those qualified for all round security, after term of service.

KM's village wedding is not the same as a football match, where yobs will have drunkenly conduct , will it. The football punters are known for their behaviour, which is different to wedding guests and village onlookers.

AliceOlive · 16/02/2023 16:22

Cam22 · 16/02/2023 16:15

Of course you have plebeians there and lots of them. They are everywhere. It means commoners.

I am not living in ancient Rome and "pleb" today, in America, is just disparaging slang used by people who believe they are better than others.

Though that poster apparently believes that we also have royalty now in the US and that the entire United States is Meghan's state.

skullbabe · 16/02/2023 16:23

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The photojournalists who were there documenting what was happening (not part of Meghan’s people) have said that she did not set up any shots. The people who were there and surprised by her visit also have not said anything negative about her - and there have been many choice words about other issues about the police and local politicians. I choose to believe them - they would certainly not stand for people hogging the limelight.

She also made a stop for the volunteers before to give them supplies and food - they have confirmed this. This was not photographed because photojournalists were not there and maybe - maybe Meghan wasn’t travelling with a photographer (I know - shocking).

My point stands - she attended, it was treated in the most mean spirited way possible - see how many of you all genuinely believe she went there for a photo op - and have somehow made her being at Uvalde about the RF.

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