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The royal family

Mega coronation

248 replies

GooseberryCinnamonYogurt · 22/01/2023 08:15

Do we really need it? My first thought is no we don't, the money would be better spent on the NHS!

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MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 22/01/2023 15:51

If he was sick it would fall apparently to the Bishop of Canterbury who is a woman

There's no such thing as the 'Bishop of Canterbury.' Did you mean Bishop of London?

feellikeanalien · 22/01/2023 16:02

Well it sounds like Charles is going to piss off both the Republicans by having a coronation at all and the under the line DM commentators by making it about diversity, refugees and the NHS. Maybe he will be a good monarch after all as he seems to have succeeded in uniting two groups who are normally diametrically opposed.😁

Swissmountains · 22/01/2023 16:33

It will be nice for people to come together, and a bank holiday is welcome.
I think we have a working royal family - the traditions and sheer opulence is all part of it. Maybe show casing the UK in the 21 century too.
It creates a huge amount of tourism and global interest, a boost to the economy via sales and pubs, parties etc. It is not all downsides, and in the end boosts the country as a whole.

JADS · 22/01/2023 18:19

While the volunteering idea for the Bank Holiday Monday is admirable, it is a bit misplaced. Charities need regular help not a one off token effort. I wish there wasn't another BH on a Monday in May. It worked better when we had a Thursday/Friday for the jubilee instead, particularly timing it with half term. Equally we could have lived without another BH.

AutumnCrow · 22/01/2023 18:52

JADS · 22/01/2023 18:19

While the volunteering idea for the Bank Holiday Monday is admirable, it is a bit misplaced. Charities need regular help not a one off token effort. I wish there wasn't another BH on a Monday in May. It worked better when we had a Thursday/Friday for the jubilee instead, particularly timing it with half term. Equally we could have lived without another BH.

Maybe our role is to volunteer to pick up all the litter and plastic crap that will be left behind in the streets.

Hintofreality · 22/01/2023 18:54

No we don’t need it. It’s a disgusting display of privilege and wealth which we’ll be repeating in a few time because, let’s face it, Charles can’t have long left.

ReneBumsWombats · 22/01/2023 19:16

Hintofreality · 22/01/2023 18:54

No we don’t need it. It’s a disgusting display of privilege and wealth which we’ll be repeating in a few time because, let’s face it, Charles can’t have long left.

He could have 20+ years if he has his parents' longevity.

Parentandteacher · 22/01/2023 19:19

I am not a big royalist but any means, but I think it’s a point of national pride and we’ll all have a nice street party to take our mind off the terrible government.

LiteralSycamore · 22/01/2023 19:27

Parentandteacher · 22/01/2023 19:19

I am not a big royalist but any means, but I think it’s a point of national pride and we’ll all have a nice street party to take our mind off the terrible government.

Isn’t it more a point of national shame that a ridiculous spend of millions on an unnecessary spectacle celebrating a family of unimaginable privilege could be considered a viable way of taking their populace’s mind off widespread poverty and inequality?

Lizziet64 · 22/01/2023 19:46

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derxa · 22/01/2023 19:49

LiteralSycamore · 22/01/2023 19:27

Isn’t it more a point of national shame that a ridiculous spend of millions on an unnecessary spectacle celebrating a family of unimaginable privilege could be considered a viable way of taking their populace’s mind off widespread poverty and inequality?

Isn’t it more a point of national shame that a ridiculous spend of millions on an unnecessary spectacle celebrating a family of unimaginable privilege could be considered a viable way of taking their populace’s mind off widespread poverty and inequality?
It's not celebrating 'a family' What a misery you are.

Samcro · 22/01/2023 19:55

I shall watch it and enjoy it

MarshaMelrose · 22/01/2023 19:59

JADS · 22/01/2023 18:19

While the volunteering idea for the Bank Holiday Monday is admirable, it is a bit misplaced. Charities need regular help not a one off token effort. I wish there wasn't another BH on a Monday in May. It worked better when we had a Thursday/Friday for the jubilee instead, particularly timing it with half term. Equally we could have lived without another BH.

I can never have too many bank holidays. Party time. 🥳

MarshaMelrose · 22/01/2023 20:03

LiteralSycamore · 22/01/2023 19:27

Isn’t it more a point of national shame that a ridiculous spend of millions on an unnecessary spectacle celebrating a family of unimaginable privilege could be considered a viable way of taking their populace’s mind off widespread poverty and inequality?

I bet you're a riot at parties, aren't you? Being such a fun person as you must ensure your name is always at the top of the invitation lists. 🙄

CathyorClaire · 22/01/2023 20:13

we will still be fed news about our environmentally conscious king. Hypocrisy prevails.

And depressingly we can see it shaping up all over again with Wills finger wagging at us from his Earthshot pedestal while using helicopters and jets like buses and continuing to teach the kids how to blast defenceless wildlife off the moors.

Lizziet64 · 22/01/2023 20:38

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derxa · 22/01/2023 21:27

USA presidential inaugurations cost over 100 million dollars. Obama's cost 170 million dollars. But these happen every 4 years.

MarshaMelrose · 22/01/2023 21:30

CathyorClaire · 22/01/2023 20:13

we will still be fed news about our environmentally conscious king. Hypocrisy prevails.

And depressingly we can see it shaping up all over again with Wills finger wagging at us from his Earthshot pedestal while using helicopters and jets like buses and continuing to teach the kids how to blast defenceless wildlife off the moors.

What is unenvironmental about horses and carriages? No fumes and fresh fertiliser. Why are you moaning about that?

SiobhanSharpe · 22/01/2023 23:34

MarshaMelrose · 22/01/2023 15:21

Isn't it environmentally conscious though, to travel with horses and carriages? No fumes or pollution. And the horses make fertiliser fir the Royal parks.
Genius. Greta would be proud.

I hate to shatter your illusions but the point I was making concerned his usual modes of travel, not just on one particular morning this coming May. And I recall Charles used to own a gas-guzzling Jag, and indeed may still do so.
Moreover, since you brought it up, I highly doubt that the hundreds of VIP guests at the ceremony will likewise arrive by horse and carriage. They will mostly be dropped off by limos.

vera99 · 23/01/2023 02:05

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 22/01/2023 15:51

If he was sick it would fall apparently to the Bishop of Canterbury who is a woman

There's no such thing as the 'Bishop of Canterbury.' Did you mean Bishop of London?

There is she is the Bishop to the Archbishops of Canterbury and York apparently it will be some ecclesiastical thing and I don't think she is a dioscean Bishop.

user1477391263 · 23/01/2023 02:45

I would like to see a more economical approach out of sensitivity. However, we must bear in mind that all state stuff requires a bit of ceremony and that costs money - a presidential system would cost money to run as well.

user1477391263 · 23/01/2023 02:51

As for “he won’t be king for long” - probably 20 years, I’d say. His parents both lived into their 90s and he is a health conscious non smoking vegetarian!

The previous queen had an unusual long reign because she represented a particular turning point in the increase in life expectancy. Her father, coming from less health conscious times and not having access to modern medical care, died in his 50s, and this led to her becoming queen in her mid-20s; she then, of course, became part of the generation that had access to the best of the modern’s world’s healthcare as she grew older, and therefore lived well into her 90s.

From Charles onwards, monarchs will probably occupy the throne for around 30 years each.

If they do bring in a retirement system (which I personally thinks makes sense), a sort of 40yo-70yo schedule for the monarch would make sense IMO; start the job at around 40 when you and your spouse are probably not having any more babies, and then retire around 70 when it’s time to start slowing down and give someone else the job.

I’d like to see Charles retiring about ten years from now, ideally, but I bet he’ll cling on as long as possible!

vera99 · 23/01/2023 03:12

Time to bring in fixed term monarchs then. Let's say 10 to 15 years. Parliament do your work !

user1477391263 · 23/01/2023 03:19

I think 30 years (a generation, roughly speaking) would be ideal - long enough to get some continuity (and, since we are all talking about cost, it also means fewer ceremonial costs!). And it’s better, IMO, for the exact changeover to be decided on a case by case basis, as it enables the monarch to pick a time when changeover will cause less stress and upset to the country. Maybe a maximum ceiling of 40 years, and then leave it up to the individual monarch to decide the term length. It does seem like the Continental monarchies are unofficially shifting towards this kind of understanding, and even in ultra-Conservative Japan, our emperor officially retired a few years back.

There is actually precedent for the idea of retirement of monarchs, at least in the East Asian countries - it is not such a new idea! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retired_Emperor

Justasec321 · 23/01/2023 03:22

EpicChaos · 22/01/2023 15:31

Just remind us, would you please, of what the actual quote said, word for word?

As for the cost, how much do you think the coronation will generate in tourism?
How far do you think £100m goes in the NHS, precisely? If you want to make a difference, there's a lot more needs doing to it that throw another £100m down the drain, quite frankly!

it will not cover it's costs in tourism.

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