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The royal family

Mega coronation

248 replies

GooseberryCinnamonYogurt · 22/01/2023 08:15

Do we really need it? My first thought is no we don't, the money would be better spent on the NHS!

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ThighMistress · 23/01/2023 10:43

Regarding the expense, in 2021/22 the govt (ie the taxpayer) spent £4.5 billion on the Arts.

A Coronation appeals to more people than an experimental dance production in Hackney. ( Before someone says “But opera…” , a lot of “traditional” Art forms/museums have lost funding or had it drastically reduced.)

A Coronation is a State Occasion. I pay a shed load of tax and I’d rather have my dollar spent on a decent spectacle than many other things. I don’t even believe it’s that important if the monarch is good or bad. In fact throughout history we are inclined to focus on a monarch’s quirks rather than praising them for being nice and squeaky clean.

MarshaMelrose · 23/01/2023 11:01

SiobhanSharpe · 22/01/2023 23:34

I hate to shatter your illusions but the point I was making concerned his usual modes of travel, not just on one particular morning this coming May. And I recall Charles used to own a gas-guzzling Jag, and indeed may still do so.
Moreover, since you brought it up, I highly doubt that the hundreds of VIP guests at the ceremony will likewise arrive by horse and carriage. They will mostly be dropped off by limos.

No illusions shattered here. 🙂 Every journey starts with a single step. Including the ecological one. Giddy up, there. 🐴

Roussette · 23/01/2023 11:07

I don’t even believe it’s that important if the monarch is good or bad

Really? Shock 😲😲

DrWhoNowww · 23/01/2023 12:49

@Justasec321 they were figures quoted by The Guardian, Telegraph and Times - they all seemed to report roughly the same figure.

I did try digging into the ONS figures but they just give you overall for the year and is complicated some years by strength of the pound/dollar weakness and impact of other events going on.

So it’s difficult to put an accurate lasting figure on it I suppose - that’s why I qualified everything with “apparently”.

I do think we need to have a decent show for the coronation to continue playing the image game - U.K. Plc has taken a series of knocks recently and an austerity coronation will compound the global view that U.K. is on the rocks (I mean it might be true, but the coronation costs aren’t going to fix us if it is and might actually bring more investment in).

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/01/2023 15:41

vera99 · 23/01/2023 02:05

There is she is the Bishop to the Archbishops of Canterbury and York apparently it will be some ecclesiastical thing and I don't think she is a dioscean Bishop.

She's still not the Bishop of Canterbury but the Bishop of London.

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 23/01/2023 17:54

I think the monarchy has slimmed down a lot actually! More by accident than design, with Harry and Andrew. The Queen's cousins are still going, but for how much longer I'm not sure.

It must depend what you do/who you talk to — I'm involved with four organisations/ charities who would like a new royal patron after the Queen's death. Some of them had had her as a patron since she was Princess Elizabeth. Not one has said "excellent, we've got rid of our royal patronage", they're more worried if there are enough royals to go around!

Novella4 · 23/01/2023 18:11

Roussette · 23/01/2023 08:47

I saw that poll @Novella4

Bottom line is... will he wear the silk stockings and breeches? That is tradition but he is deliberating at the moment, whether to keep to tradition or update. .

And apparently he will be wearing two crowns (at different times of course!). One of them has 2,900 diamonds on Shock And what Crown will Camilla wear?

I know polls are mostly unscientific but was surprised at the overwhelming 95% of respondents not interested in the conanation ( my new term for it )

I'm convinced that indifference and rejection of the monarchy are both growing and quickly.

I've just been reading about Andrew's plans to rehabilitate himself

It's all so disgusting .
I think there is definitely an element of some people ( royalists ) wanting to believe in a fairytale so they'll defend Andrew and deflect from bags of cash Charles and all the rest of it

derxa · 23/01/2023 18:34

I think there is definitely an element of some people ( royalists ) wanting to believe in a fairytale so they'll defend Andrew and deflect from bags of cash Charles and all the rest of it
What fairy tale?

Afteebaiv · 23/01/2023 20:40

Novella4 · 23/01/2023 08:38

@Afteebaiv

I hate to break it you but the country is poor and getting poorer

And wasting 100 000 000 on a facade to trick other countries ( who are often laughing at us re the 'royals') ??

The Twitter poll I was following had closed Nearly 41000 responded . Still 95% not interested in the coronation

There is much more unrest re the Windsors than MSM leads you to believe

Thanks for making my point clearer.
I also pointed out how much getting our money’s worth has been and increasingly is a way of life, and so it means that we won’t get much of a return in this case.

Purplebunnie · 27/01/2023 21:38

I thought the "slimmed down" comment was in relation to the monarchy being slimmed down. I hadn't seen it in relation to the Coronation being slimmed down or have I missed something

Coxspurplepippin · 27/01/2023 21:55

'The Twitter poll I was following had closed Nearly 41000 responded . Still 95% not interested in the coronation'.

Twitter poll Hmm

So properly conducted, wide ranging, not at all biased towards the sectors of the population who use twitter. Or those who follow the person who created the poll.

TBH a poll conducted by the daily mail asking the same question and with 95% in favour of the coronation would be as valid.

C'mon.

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 27/01/2023 23:58

What's a 100 million compared to the billions our stupid government waste?
At least the Coronation will most likely make at least 10 times the initial investment.
So a billion quid for a 100 million outlay that's a 10% return on the 'investment'

namitynamechange · 28/01/2023 05:07

Novella4 · 23/01/2023 06:40

The crown sits there and there is no coronation because to have a coronation would be religiously and politically divisive in the Netherlands
That's why

It's all v low key . The 'king' had worked as a water engineer
He is currently investigating the Dutch crowns role in slavery and apologising

Here there is only coronation left in Europe . The rest stopped that nonsense one hundred years ago

It is unnecessary , it is feudal , it is embarrassing
The coronation will symbolise all that is rotten on this island

On the other hand the Dutch have a massive party and public holiday every single year to celebrate the kings (not actual) birthday. So its swings and roundabouts really (although one could argue it also provides vital stimulation to the admittedly circular economy of 8 year old entrepreneurs selling old toys to each other).

Roussette · 28/01/2023 08:09

Here's the Dutch King, Queen and their daughters dancing in the street with the people.

derxa · 28/01/2023 09:39

Roussette · 28/01/2023 08:09

Here's the Dutch King, Queen and their daughters dancing in the street with the people.

Let's all move to the Netherlands. Let joy be unconfined.

ArcaneWireless · 28/01/2023 09:53

I wonder if there is so much froth in the Netherlands. Or is it banned in case it puts a strain on their flood defences?

entirelyesspresso · 28/01/2023 09:58

I mis-read the title of this thread as 'Meghan's Coronation'

...I thought 'well that took a sharp turn'Grin

Roussette · 28/01/2023 12:08

ArcaneWireless · 28/01/2023 09:53

I wonder if there is so much froth in the Netherlands. Or is it banned in case it puts a strain on their flood defences?

As they don't do coronations, I doubt it.

On the King's birthday, they party, and they have free flea markets whereby anyone can sell something in the street without a permit. Little kids set up stalls outside their homes selling their old toys! No crowns, gold carriages and processions, just partying.

ArcaneWireless · 28/01/2023 12:21

Ah - I wasn’t speaking just about coronations. Just in general.

Nice to know that they celebrate the King’s birthday though.

vera99 · 28/01/2023 12:29

Roussette · 28/01/2023 12:08

As they don't do coronations, I doubt it.

On the King's birthday, they party, and they have free flea markets whereby anyone can sell something in the street without a permit. Little kids set up stalls outside their homes selling their old toys! No crowns, gold carriages and processions, just partying.

I'm in Long Live that King.

derxa · 28/01/2023 12:34

MN the land of Cromwell and John Knox. Thou shalt not hold big weddings and Coronations. Thou shalt wear musty rags and never answer the door to a visitor.

ArcaneWireless · 28/01/2023 12:46

MN the land of Cromwell and John Knox. Thou shalt not hold big weddings and Coronations. Thou shalt wear musty rags and never answer the door to a visitor.

But if you do answer the door, you should answer it brandishing a toilet brush. (Already sterilised in the dishwasher)

Then you can go back to the kitchen to prepare your MN chicken for Sunday and prepare stuff for your picky tea for The Masked Singer.

Perhaps that is where someone who has been conspicuous by their absence is hiding in plain sight. 😉

Roussette · 28/01/2023 12:49

derxa · 28/01/2023 12:34

MN the land of Cromwell and John Knox. Thou shalt not hold big weddings and Coronations. Thou shalt wear musty rags and never answer the door to a visitor.

Don't forget about boil washing your towels should they touch any part of your body!

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