52% of 18-24 year olds want monarchy abolished

[babsanderson]

This was in a yougov poll. Support for the monarchy is at an all time low amongst younger people.

Yeah, ok, but how do you vote?

I didn't say all British people, I said many.

And I can equally admit Eastern Europe has issues, specifically homophobia and racism.

Just not sure why people like you can't admit that Britain has a problem and you'd rather strawman me by twisting my words?

At least we didn't stoop as low as to disrespect an entire country by supporting a sex offender while in public office.

Or as low as prince Andrew.

But I see where your priorities lie.

Of course you see where my priorities lie. With a very old, newly bereaved lady. Always would.

Really??? I think non British don't really care - they are not invested in any way. Yes nice to see the Queen every now and then but Charles I don't think he has the same following.

The older generation grew up with the Queen. And as Charles is already in his 70s it's unlikely he will reinvigorate new followers amongst the younger generation.

I would say it would be the British who have an interest either way.

I'm not even sure that many of the younger population of the commonwealth countries would be that invested but maybe they are.

Always? If said lady was a serial killer who murdered children would your priorities lie with her too?

How far will you go excusing someone just because they're an old, bereaved woman? I'd love to know.

And you accuse other people of constructing straw men?

It's not a straw man to contest your claim of "always" siding by someone just due to them being a bereaved old woman.

It's critical thinking. Try it sometimes.

When I was a teen/early 20s I didn't see the point of a monarchy either. However now I'm older I really appreciate that stability of a monarch in a world of flighty flittering politicians, however the queen's death has been a huge loss and blow for the country in general. I honestly don't believe the monarchy will ever be as strong as it was when queen Elizabeth was on the throne. Alot if people myself included don't like Charles and Camilla and the monarchy is now very unpopular with them on the throne. Hopefully it will recover when will and Kate take over.

All right dear.

Do you think the ceremony at Westminster Abbey was a “family” funeral?
You do know he had a private family funeral- the RF are entitled to some privacy!

The event at Westminster Abbey where Andrew had a very prominent position was designed for public consumption.

So what do you think the queen was trying to say with her son Andrew by her side?

Really??? I think non British don't really care - they are not invested in any way.

I think it looks different outside looking into our system - less stable and with less power.

That's a great point. Exactly, it's not democratic and we once decided this is somehow sensible.

We never actually sat down and decided - we - well our rulers - modified the pre-existing system even the Lord protector was looking back at previous system why it slowly ended up looking very like a King. We started limiting power with Magna Carta ( the powerful Lords)- English civil war shifted power to parliament more, the glorious revolution and then act of succession meant parliamnet started to choose the royal succession and then more and more of the population demanded the vote - power shift slowly from the aristocracy and house of lords to wider demographic.

We've never started from scratch like other countries - our system evolved form other governing systems over a thousand years (and has a surprising amount of check and balances due often to historical power struggles ) and you tend to pick the nuance and complications up as you go though life though a sort of osmosis.

It is a flawed system but other systems are also flawed - the cost benefit of change isn't clear yet to most of the population.

Exactly, The private family funeral was rightly not televised and no details shared in public. They do have a private life. And public state occasions as well.

There was nothing in Westminster Abbey. The one and only funeral was in St George’s Chapel in Windsor.

Yet you are prepared to pay security for a disgraced millionaire Prince who had 12 mil £ paid to a SA victim - he doesn't even "work" anymore . . .

No I’m not. Nor was Charles which is why his security has been withdrawn. Do you never actually read anything?

Please see link I previously sent if you don’t know what the rest of the posters are referring to.

You referred to a family funeral which we don’t know the details of. The rest of us are talking about the public memorial ceremony where the late queen had Andrew play a prominent role.

Why do you think this is?

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/mar/29/prince-andrew-plays-prominent-role-in-prince-philip-memorial-service

Ah, so you’re talking about the memorial service. I’m talking about the actual funeral which was televised from St George’s chapel.

Please can you share your source for this?

Which station televised it? Any links? I thought it was a private affair?

Also- what do you think of Andrew’s prominent role in the memorial service?
@Blossomtoes

Here you go. You said funeral

Only 52%? People need educating in this country. But education has been removed by the Tories. I can't understand how the RF (aka Bunch of Parasites) are so popular. They have never done anything for anyone, but are handed out LOADS of dosh. It's a weird and corrupt system .

www.google.co.uk/search?q=bbc+prince+philip+funeral&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari

I watched it 😂

I feel very sorry for the Queen if she had to have this televised. I did see she was allowed some private time with her late husband.

Again - please can ask what point the late Queen was trying to make by Andrew’s prominence at the memorial service? I think this is what the main point others including myself were asking you to consider?

I don’t think she was making any point. She was 95 and thought she was entitled to do what the fuck she liked at her husband’s memorial service. I agree with her.