William was in the wrong re Harry’s wedding

[MaybelleMary]

Re William didn’t stay over with Harry the night before his wedding and caused a fuss about having to go to the hotel he was in the night before for dinner. As his only brother and as best man he should’ve been there with him. We hear all the time how wonderful and amazing Catherine’s family are - surely on the occasion of his only sibling getting married her parents could’ve come over to help her with her newborn and the children for the night. They have nannies and cleaners and staff so not exactly short of help in general.

my DH has only one brother too. He got married when my baby was 6 weeks old post a difficult c-section. We went to the hotel for 3 nights - so DH could have drinks with his brother and bridal party the night before, the night of the wedding and the night after the wedding. I was fine with this as it was his only siblings wedding. Yes it was difficult for me and exhausting but it was important to us both that we made a big effort for his DBro especially as (like Harry) they were missing a parent at the wedding.

from my view either William or Catherine or both didn’t care enough to put themselves out for Harry and his wedding which reflects poorly on them.

I agree OP. Some people will defend anything W & K do or did and will condemn anything H& M do or did even if W and or K did the same thing. It's tribal. Personally I don't think anyone is coming out of this looking very good. But then that doesn't surprise me. Very dysfunctional family.

@LondonJax In the book he says he didn't get to choose the wedding date. It was chosen for them when looking at the schedule for all other royal events etc that year.

Someone is goading us for some reason. Either that or they must have an INCREDIBLY boring life given that they have said several times they don't give a shit about the RF.

I have to say as well I wouldn’t expect someone to plan their wedding date around anyone’s due date but their own. Wasn’t like it was something they had total control over any way, had to be a date the queen and prince charles were free

When two members of the family were about to give birth or had just done so wasn’t ideal, was it?

Nope, just had a long day at work, finished reading the book, no one I know has read it, and was looking for a discussion with others who may be interested.

Instead I unwittingly found myself in a coven!

Funny how this 'I want to debate PH's book' has become 'let's attack Kate, her appearance and her health under the guise of being concerned for her, the poor wee stressed thing,' hasn't it?

Quite MrsDanvers

“Bonkers and delusional people on this thread” too?

Aye. Aye there is. And they are usually casting aspersions at others when they should maybe take a wee look a bit closer to home.

I'm extremely sceptical that out of the 100's of other days in the year that wouldn't have been a major event that there wasn't one better one that was free.

The thing is guys I don't care what a bunch of random internet strangers who enjoy ganging up on people and feeling like Queen Bees on their mumsnet thread think of ME.

I just want to know what people think of the BOOK!

Would love to know people's thoughts who HAVE read the book.

The thing is, in a family where a lot of people are of procreating age, it's going to be a bit tricky to choose a date where someone isn't going to be pregnant/just about to give birth/just had a baby I suppose.

Anyway that's the reason in the book.

agree

Where in the book does it mention eating disorders?

Now let’s imagine this from Kate’s POV: she has a 3 week old, two children who are in the wedding party (flower girl and page boy) ans herself is attending the wedding less than a month after giving birth in a cream outfit. And your pictures will go round the world. Would you want your DH to be away for the night?? Despite nannies and staff I absolutely wouldn’t and I completely understand why W prioritised his kids!

personallY attending a wedding 4 weeks pp would have been my biggest nightmare.

But even if this is the case, don't you then accept that your brother will have other commitments at that point? So if you don't want to wait to get married, you accept your brother won't be able to join in all your jollies?

Instead I unwittingly found myself in a coven!

Add that we're hysterical and you've got a sexist full house there.

Somewhere else on this board there is actually a discussion about the book. I think it's called 'Bookclub for Spare' or something. Probably full of kindred spirits for you. Why not wander over there and have a looksee?

But why is Harry automatically disbelieved on this?

Because the book is full of lies.
Because he is a bully himself, and a nasty, racist ableist one at that - cf Pat and the cadet he called a P*.
Because he takes zero responsibility for anything in his life - cf Pat and the above mentioned cadet for just 2 examples.
Because the way he casually tosses women with no voice into his nasty narrative is misogynist.
Because he is completely delusional and thinks he solely owns the grief over his mother that his brother must feel just as much.
Because my view is that he has tried to form a co-dependent relationship with William, and can't accept William is a separate person with a different destiny and hs own life to live.
Because he is absolutely full of envy and bile.

More importantly, where in this thread title or OP does it mention the book?

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Didn't William also have a long standing commitment to the FA that day, too? My memory is a bit hazy but I seem to recall some sort of important football fixture clash with the wedding. Was it the FA cup final? Or did I imagibe this?

I doubt they'd have had much choice on the date. They'll have had to plan around royal schedules plus it needed policing, so I'm guessing there would have been quite a few people who needed to agree on the date. Even if they were only planning it around babies, 3 weeks after Kate gives birth and approx 1 month before Zara does probably seemed like the best plan anyway. Much later and Zara might not make it, much earlier and Kate might not. And they presumably wouldn't have wanted to push it back months as obviously they wanted to start having children pretty quickly.

This. But also weddings are so stressful, I feel no matter what you do someone is going to get annoyed. Given both M&H both appear to have dysfunctional families, perhaps they should realise that is the norm in most cases and move on and nurture their own ...

@Alighttouchonthetiller yes i think it was the FA cup final.

Yes, it was the FA Cup final.

Out of the immediate nuclear family his gran wasn't about to announce a pregnancy, he could be fairly sure Charles & Camilla or Doria wouldn't, his only brother/business partner had announced a date for the third child so it would be impossible for them to have one earlier and unlikely they'd start on a 4th immediately after! If it was cousins etc then can't please everyone but why not accommodate your only sibling?

Until they were Over 25 days at least maybe! They announced the pregnancy 2 months before the engagement.

and what are you talking about staff for? Did you employ staff to go and leave your newborn for drinks?
Catherine was on maternity leave and William would have by rights been on paternity leave if any other person. It wasn’t a work event. It was a family drinks he didn’t feel like going to. Why would you suggest he leave his staff to help his post partum wife? It’s not like they were going to get a lie in the next day either.