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William was in the wrong re Harry’s wedding

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MaybelleMary · 17/01/2023 14:14

Re William didn’t stay over with Harry the night before his wedding and caused a fuss about having to go to the hotel he was in the night before for dinner. As his only brother and as best man he should’ve been there with him. We hear all the time how wonderful and amazing Catherine’s family are - surely on the occasion of his only sibling getting married her parents could’ve come over to help her with her newborn and the children for the night. They have nannies and cleaners and staff so not exactly short of help in general.

my DH has only one brother too. He got married when my baby was 6 weeks old post a difficult c-section. We went to the hotel for 3 nights - so DH could have drinks with his brother and bridal party the night before, the night of the wedding and the night after the wedding. I was fine with this as it was his only siblings wedding. Yes it was difficult for me and exhausting but it was important to us both that we made a big effort for his DBro especially as (like Harry) they were missing a parent at the wedding.

from my view either William or Catherine or both didn’t care enough to put themselves out for Harry and his wedding which reflects poorly on them.

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Alighttouchonthetiller · 17/01/2023 19:33

I thought so,@Ridemeginger and @Eyerollcentral . And Eugenie's wedding had to be pushed back to accommodate the May date.

Interesting.

BubziOwl · 17/01/2023 19:39

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 17/01/2023 15:44

My DH also went on his brothers stag when our baby was 3 weeks old for a full weekend and my parents both came and stayed with me

Does DH have other siblings? if he does, where were they? I notice it's YOUR family that rallies round.

As it was his brother I didn’t mind this

It doesn't sound to me like you get much choice in the matter.

Yeah, this is just odd tbh.

OP from my perspective, I care about my family more than anything. Which is exactly why I'd never pressure or expect any of them to choose between making a fuss of me, a grown woman, and being with their newborn baby and freshly post-partum wife!!

Samcro · 17/01/2023 19:40

blubberyboo · 17/01/2023 19:32

Until they were Over 25 days at least maybe! They announced the pregnancy 2 months before the engagement.

and what are you talking about staff for? Did you employ staff to go and leave your newborn for drinks?
Catherine was on maternity leave and William would have by rights been on paternity leave if any other person. It wasn’t a work event. It was a family drinks he didn’t feel like going to. Why would you suggest he leave his staff to help his post partum wife? It’s not like they were going to get a lie in the next day either.

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I was pointing out that their set up isn’t like your normal. They have nannies and so on.
i didn’t comment on William as I don’t get why he would need to stay the night with Harry.
i was commenting on the posts that bashed Harry for getting married when people had babies or were expecting.

MuckyPlucky · 17/01/2023 19:41

Ridemeginger · 17/01/2023 16:39

The children who have full time nannies??? Who they are frequently away from on royal duties? The ones who are apparently super close to their loving grandparents on Catherine’s side? Sorry I thought they might be fine with various nannies and grandparents and their mother for the night!

They are working, like other working parents. Are you suggesting ordinary working parents who use a nanny or day care are less close to their children, and just dump them whatever the circumstances?

Just because the children are royal, does not stop them being children - really young children in this case. This does not mean that the children need their parents less in circumstances where we know at least one of them (Charlotte) has been upset prior to the wedding. That doesn't mean they (tiny children) will just settle with anyone when they might be nervous/hyper about performing the following day in a massive wedding in from of crowds of people and TV cameras.

If they will only settle down for a parent, William being on an overnight banger would mean Kate having to get 3 children to settle, having to reassure 2 of them about the following day, having to get 2 of them to go to sleep. Not to mention that she - 3 weeks post party - is in the spotlight herself the next day, probably still exhausted from pregnancy and birth (we know she has bad pregnancies), probably knackered from breastfeeding etc.

How about in the morning, getting ready? William probably had to leave early to be with the groom's party, so what. Kate has to do all the wrestling the night before, and make sure everyone is dressed and ready the next morning. Nanny or no nanny, that is a big bloody ask when the wedding is a GLOBALLY TELEVISED EVENT, not someone's tiny little wedding nobody outside of your family really cares about.

Couldn’t have put this better myself 👏🏻

WeWereInParis · 17/01/2023 19:45

Alighttouchonthetiller · 17/01/2023 19:33

I thought so,@Ridemeginger and @Eyerollcentral . And Eugenie's wedding had to be pushed back to accommodate the May date.

Interesting.

Eugenie's engagement wasn't even announced until the month after H&M announced the May date for their wedding.

DaughterOfPsychiatrist · 17/01/2023 19:47

Just the thought of going to a wedding less than a month after giving birth is horrifying, let alone a televised wedding (when you aren’t going to be allowed to hide away at the back).

Leaky boobs, lochia, hormonal sweats, post natal hair shedding? No thank you!

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 19:49

WeWereInParis · 17/01/2023 19:45

Eugenie's engagement wasn't even announced until the month after H&M announced the May date for their wedding.

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It wasn’t announced publicly but they had been engaged for several months by the time it was.

IcedPurple · 17/01/2023 19:50

Add that we're hysterical and you've got a sexist full house there.

Has she said we're all eaten up with jealousy because Meghan 'stole' the charming and heroic Prince Chilly Willy yet?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 17/01/2023 19:53

IcedPurple · 17/01/2023 19:50

Add that we're hysterical and you've got a sexist full house there.

Has she said we're all eaten up with jealousy because Meghan 'stole' the charming and heroic Prince Chilly Willy yet?

No. Although I'm actually beginning to wonder what it was like living with PH when he was 'writing' this and wondering if I should be feeling a bit sorry for her. Something I never thought I'd say.

blubberyboo · 17/01/2023 19:57

Samcro · 17/01/2023 19:40

I was pointing out that their set up isn’t like your normal. They have nannies and so on.
i didn’t comment on William as I don’t get why he would need to stay the night with Harry.
i was commenting on the posts that bashed Harry for getting married when people had babies or were expecting.

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People aren’t bashing Harry for getting married though!

they are bashing him for whinging that his brother didn’t come to the pre wedding drinks. That’s what the thread is about. If it was that important to him to have him at the drinks then he should have chosen a different wedding date!

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 17/01/2023 20:16

Surely there must be some truth to what he's saying? Otherwise why else would he risk everything to say it?

For money.

MonsoonMadness · 17/01/2023 20:16

DaughterOfPsychiatrist · 17/01/2023 19:47

Just the thought of going to a wedding less than a month after giving birth is horrifying, let alone a televised wedding (when you aren’t going to be allowed to hide away at the back).

Leaky boobs, lochia, hormonal sweats, post natal hair shedding? No thank you!

Never mind having to be in shape. God knows how she did it. She looked amazing.

steff13 · 17/01/2023 20:30

EnidSpyton · 17/01/2023 19:20

The thing is guys I don't care what a bunch of random internet strangers who enjoy ganging up on people and feeling like Queen Bees on their mumsnet thread think of ME.

I just want to know what people think of the BOOK!

Would love to know people's thoughts who HAVE read the book.

I'm sure there's a discussion about it on Reddit. Or you could start one. Or GoodReads.

DaughterOfPsychiatrist · 17/01/2023 20:43

MonsoonMadness · 17/01/2023 20:16

Never mind having to be in shape. God knows how she did it. She looked amazing.

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Now I’m imagining the horror of trying to wrestle a post natal, sweaty body into Spanx!

She did look great!

I’m not planning to get into a debate re: EDs but thought it worth pointing out that Kate’s mother and sister are both very slender & her mum is unusually fit for a lady in her mid 60s. Some people are just naturally thinner than others.
¯\(ツ)/¯

HamBone · 17/01/2023 21:23

@DaughterOfPsychiatrist I agree, and I was also still bleeding down below
(I think most new Mums would be), I can't imagine wearing a pale outfit and heels. I'm sure she was extremely uncomfortable.

Patineur · 17/01/2023 21:24

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 16:33

Yes I would say it is, especially if they are in the wedding party and especially as they are each other’s only sibling.

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It really isn't. Why would they, if they live reasonably near by? What, realistically, can they do to support their sibling whilst they are asleep?

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 21:30

Patineur · 17/01/2023 21:24

It really isn't. Why would they, if they live reasonably near by? What, realistically, can they do to support their sibling whilst they are asleep?

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In my experience it’s just nice to be together. Its nice to have the time with your siblings before taking the next step in your life. I am surprised so many people on here seem to find it so odd.

OrcastralManoeuvresInTheDark · 17/01/2023 21:33

blubberyboo · 17/01/2023 19:57

People aren’t bashing Harry for getting married though!

they are bashing him for whinging that his brother didn’t come to the pre wedding drinks. That’s what the thread is about. If it was that important to him to have him at the drinks then he should have chosen a different wedding date!

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No they’re not bashing Harry for whinging that his brother didn’t come to the pre wedding drinks… they’re bashing Harry for whinging that his brother didn’t stay the night with him before H’s wedding.

(It is annoying when people argue without having read the pertinent extract. It just extends the rumours and untruths.)

Patineur · 17/01/2023 21:38

Harry considers himself to have been bullied by William, and video evidence shows that William does indeed bully him.

What video evidence?

Patineur · 17/01/2023 21:41

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 21:30

In my experience it’s just nice to be together. Its nice to have the time with your siblings before taking the next step in your life. I am surprised so many people on here seem to find it so odd.

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It's not that being with your siblings is odd or isn't nice , it's the concept that somehow it's the done thing to stay together the entire night before the wedding - even if one sibling lives nearby. It really isn't accepted practice. If you want to do it, fin, if you don't or can't, equally fine. Certainly it's ridiculous for one sibling to be bearing a grudge about it years later.

Patineur · 17/01/2023 21:43

Just wondering: given that, to this day, Harry apparently doesn't understand that a husband might want to put his 3 weeks post partum wife and newborn child first, just how much of a support was he realistically for Meghan when she was in that situation?

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 21:47

Patineur · 17/01/2023 21:41

It's not that being with your siblings is odd or isn't nice , it's the concept that somehow it's the done thing to stay together the entire night before the wedding - even if one sibling lives nearby. It really isn't accepted practice. If you want to do it, fin, if you don't or can't, equally fine. Certainly it's ridiculous for one sibling to be bearing a grudge about it years later.

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Of course it’s ridiculous Harry is still moaning about it. It might not be expected for you but that’s not been my experience in my own family and most of my friends and relations 🤷‍♀️

Patineur · 17/01/2023 21:51

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 21:47

Of course it’s ridiculous Harry is still moaning about it. It might not be expected for you but that’s not been my experience in my own family and most of my friends and relations 🤷‍♀️

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That's fine, but you suggested it was the norm. The fact that your family and friends do something doesn't make it the norm.

onemorerose · 17/01/2023 21:52

Cornelious · 17/01/2023 17:19

Genuine question for those who think William dud the wrong thing: Is it the norm for brothers to spend the night under the same roof the night before the wedding??

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Yes I would expect it. Usually the bride and groom to be are not together the night before the wedding. In my experience of about 15 weddings the bride had some of their wedding party with them and the groom had someone with him. Usually brother or best man.

Ive never heard of it, a wee get together and then home for a good nights sleep. Was h wanting a piss up the night before his wedding? Was Will not there at the appropriate time in the morning?

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 22:01

Patineur · 17/01/2023 21:51

That's fine, but you suggested it was the norm. The fact that your family and friends do something doesn't make it the norm.

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Well by the same token neither does you saying the opposite? I do think it wasn’t a big ask of William and I was surprised he didn’t stay with him, however as I said in my first post I think that’s more because he didn’t support the marriage and thought v easily words could follow esp if they were drinking