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William was in the wrong re Harry’s wedding

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MaybelleMary · 17/01/2023 14:14

Re William didn’t stay over with Harry the night before his wedding and caused a fuss about having to go to the hotel he was in the night before for dinner. As his only brother and as best man he should’ve been there with him. We hear all the time how wonderful and amazing Catherine’s family are - surely on the occasion of his only sibling getting married her parents could’ve come over to help her with her newborn and the children for the night. They have nannies and cleaners and staff so not exactly short of help in general.

my DH has only one brother too. He got married when my baby was 6 weeks old post a difficult c-section. We went to the hotel for 3 nights - so DH could have drinks with his brother and bridal party the night before, the night of the wedding and the night after the wedding. I was fine with this as it was his only siblings wedding. Yes it was difficult for me and exhausting but it was important to us both that we made a big effort for his DBro especially as (like Harry) they were missing a parent at the wedding.

from my view either William or Catherine or both didn’t care enough to put themselves out for Harry and his wedding which reflects poorly on them.

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IcedPurple · 17/01/2023 17:57

EnidSpyton · 17/01/2023 17:55

@IcedPurple is there a reason why you dislike someone you've never met so strongly?

I don't really give a fig about the whole thing. I'm sure not everything Harry says in the book is something that would be corroborated by others. All he can give is his perspective on things. Of course there will be other perspectives on the same event. Harry's will be coloured by his experiences and feelings, and others, their's. But that doesn't make Harry's perspective or feelings invalid.

I know you don't believe in 'objective truth' but pointing out facts does not equate to 'disliking' someone.

And you give so little of a 'fig' that you've written several posts within half an hour? Including stating as fact that Kate has an eating disorder? Isn't that against MN guidelines?

Blossomtoes · 17/01/2023 17:58

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 17/01/2023 17:55

I am not surprised that his wife has an eating disorder

Evidence for this, please.

Shocking. Absolutely disgraceful.

IcedPurple · 17/01/2023 17:58

EnidSpyton · 17/01/2023 17:57

Facts and truths are entirely different things.

You're talking about facts in this example, not truth.

And anyway, your example is a bit of a moot point, because actually the fact of the date would depend on what country you live in, and which time zone 😁

Facts and 'truths' are not different things.

For example, to say that minor royals don't usually get married in the Abbey is true and it is a fact.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 17/01/2023 17:59

is there a reason why you dislike someone you've never met so strongly?

Like you appear to dislike William so strongly - calling him a bully and implying that that's why his wife has, according to you, an eating disorder?

Ridemeginger · 17/01/2023 18:00

Definition of truth: the body of real things, events, and facts (Marriam Webster).

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 17/01/2023 18:01

Blossomtoes · 17/01/2023 17:58

Shocking. Absolutely disgraceful.

This poster seems to be very free with unpleasant insinuations about the Wales couple, doesn't she?

Ridemeginger · 17/01/2023 18:01

Reasons to dislike Harry? One word. Pat.

jeffgoldblum · 17/01/2023 18:01

So we have King Charles is an alcoholic on one thread and now Kate has an eating disorder on this one!
No proof just mud slinging, and those who are critical of h and m are the deranged haters!

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 17/01/2023 18:02

Ridemeginger · 17/01/2023 18:01

Reasons to dislike Harry? One word. Pat.

At first I thought you meant prat and thought, not nearly strong enough. Then I realised.

Yeah. Pat.

Ridemeginger · 17/01/2023 18:02

I thought Charles is a teetotal vegetarian.

IcedPurple · 17/01/2023 18:03

jeffgoldblum · 17/01/2023 18:01

So we have King Charles is an alcoholic on one thread and now Kate has an eating disorder on this one!
No proof just mud slinging, and those who are critical of h and m are the deranged haters!

Someone also casually accused Angela Kelly of racism yesterday because she didn't drop everything to cater to Meghan's every whim.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 17/01/2023 18:04

Ridemeginger · 17/01/2023 18:02

I thought Charles is a teetotal vegetarian.

I read a comment from him years ago that none of the RF are big drinkers but they're absolutely mad for tea.

Although, after the last couple of years, I wouldn't blame him if he did drink.

jeffgoldblum · 17/01/2023 18:04

Same poster @IcedPurple ! 🙄

DisforDarkChocolate · 17/01/2023 18:07

I can't imagine William getting up doing night feeds, what's the point of being insanely rich?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 17/01/2023 18:09

DisforDarkChocolate · 17/01/2023 18:07

I can't imagine William getting up doing night feeds, what's the point of being insanely rich?

Bonding with his newborn, perhaps?

magicthree · 17/01/2023 18:09

I wasn't aware staying with your sibling the night before your wedding was even a thing. YABVVVU, not to mention ridiculous.

I spent the night before my wedding at home, with my partner, as usual.

If you had wanted to start a thread about this happening in your own family my answer would be the same - but to start one about a family you don't even actually know is pathetic.

YouJustDoYou · 17/01/2023 18:11

I find it hilarious that people are still believing Harry's lies, when he's been caught out time and time again lying, and lying, and lying. But some very dim-witted people just keep. on. believing him. Quite sad.

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 18:13

magicthree · 17/01/2023 18:09

I wasn't aware staying with your sibling the night before your wedding was even a thing. YABVVVU, not to mention ridiculous.

I spent the night before my wedding at home, with my partner, as usual.

If you had wanted to start a thread about this happening in your own family my answer would be the same - but to start one about a family you don't even actually know is pathetic.

Tbh I would say that’s much more unusual, spending the night with your partner before the wedding, even if you usually live together

DaughterOfPsychiatrist · 17/01/2023 18:14

IcedPurple · 17/01/2023 17:34

A few weeks ago, I gave birth to my 3rd child. My brother in law is getting married next week and my husband is the best man, even though he has made no secret of the fact that he thinks his brother is rushing into marriage. I have had some disagreements with the bride recently too. Our other children, aged 3 and 4, will be attendants at the wedding and are a little stressed about it. Now my BIL is asking my husband to spend the night before the wedding in the hotel with him, but he would much prefer to help me with the baby and to get the older two ready for tomorrow. AIBU to say my husband is right?

YA definitely NBU.

Although if your BIL is likely to hold it against your DH for the next X years I can see why your DH might be tempted to suck it up for one night as conflict avoidance strategy?

It can be very hard to maintain healthy boundaries around ILs. My sympathies, OP!💐

EnidSpyton · 17/01/2023 18:15

Look I don't give a shit about any of them. I see no place for a royal family in 2022 and wish they'd all bugger off and live private lives at no expense to the public. The whole institution is deeply offensive to me. But everyone is entitled to their own opinions!

I've just read Harry's autobiog out of curiosity and was interested at how different events are when read from his own perspective and not twisted by media stories or quotes taken out of context.

To me, when looking at the way William speaks to and about Harry in interviews, and how Harry responds to that - in his facial expressions and body language - their relationship is not a healthy one. Harry states in his book that William has always sought to pull rank and belittle him. And the video evidence of their interviews together supports this. William is a bully to Harry. Harry considers himself to have been bullied by William, and video evidence shows that William does indeed bully him. I'm not sure what's controversial about that.

And on the Kate front - please. Look at the woman. She's skeletal. She's lost shedloads of weight since the wedding and gets smaller and smaller every year. That much should be clear to anyone with eyes - you don't need any other 'evidence' than that. It's called stating the obvious.

I thought it might be interesting to discuss the autobiography with others as no one in my RL has read it yet, but clearly no one on here has either, nor are you interested in anything other than deifying William and Kate. So I'm outta here! This is clearly not the place for a nuanced discussion!

magicthree · 17/01/2023 18:15

Cornelious · 17/01/2023 17:19

Genuine question for those who think William dud the wrong thing: Is it the norm for brothers to spend the night under the same roof the night before the wedding??

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Yes I would expect it. Usually the bride and groom to be are not together the night before the wedding. In my experience of about 15 weddings the bride had some of their wedding party with them and the groom had someone with him. Usually brother or best man.

What century are you living in? I spent the night with my "groom to be" in 1990, there was no suggestion of us being apart. What an old fashioned notion.

Forever42 · 17/01/2023 18:16

What is this business of sleepovers before the wedding? I've been a bridesmaid, DH has been a best man and both of us have had siblings who got married. Not once has it been suggested we spend the night with the bride or groom before. We have had dinner or drinks the night before then seen them the following morning.

I would have thought MN in particular would be supportive of William saying he couldn't leave the kids overnight. The nannies were probably fully booked for the day of the wedding so might not have been available the night before.

Alighttouchonthetiller · 17/01/2023 18:16

I'm confused. I watched the wedding coverage at the time and I'm sure it was reported that William stayed with Harry the night before. I remember it because I thought, 'Christ, I bet Kate's pissed off. He's had a quiet night with a few drinks, she's been at home with three kids, including a tiny baby, then had to get them all dressed and ready for a massive wedding the next morning.'

It must have been misreported.

itsjustnotok · 17/01/2023 18:17

@MaybelleMary if we actually knew what happened the I might agree but this is the problem with one side of an issue you don’t actually know exactly what has transpired to get to this point. You have half a story end of, I refuse to condemn one person over another based on one persons side and feelings.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 17/01/2023 18:17

I must say, @EnidSpyton for someone who doesn't give a shit you use an awful lot of words in long posts to tell us you don't give a shit.

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