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The royal family

The Royal Family is incredibly dysfunctional

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babsanderson · 15/01/2023 23:15

They are an incredibly dysfunctional family with lots of internal rivalries, poor parenting and a strange culture of stay silent and we will protect you from actual crimes, but speak out and we will destroy you.
They really are a mess and I suspect they are so dysfunctional, they do not realise just how messed up the family dynamics are.
But maybe such a dysfunctional family is inevitable within a hereditary monarchy where your accident of birth means you have access to more money and power than your siblings and other close relatives?

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LadyVictoriaSponge · 16/01/2023 00:58

The Royal Family also have heavy alcohol and drug use. And they would have a long prison sentence if they were an ordinary family.

Agreed OP, Harry should be in prison for his drug use and social services should be called in to see if Archie and Lily have been exposed to drugs or put in danger whilst in his care.

Onnabugeisha · 16/01/2023 00:59

Nat6999 · 16/01/2023 00:50

If they were a normal family social services would have a birthday with them. Parents who left their children for up to 6 months with a nanny. A father who didn't allow 2 young boys who had just lost their mother to grieve properly. An uncle who regularly associated with a known paedophile & people trafficker The whole family who are emotionally cold. A father who bullied his son & sent him away to a school where he was very unhappy. That's all without all the affairs, Diana's eating disorders etc.

🤣 none of this meets the very very low bar needed for SS involvement.
Having a FT live in nanny? An uncle who is friends with a criminal? Being a bit of a cold fish? Sending DCs to elite private boarding schools? Having affairs?

SS would just bin any tip off anonymously reporting a family for these things.

Gagaandgag · 16/01/2023 00:59

I find William and Kate fascinating - I feel like they have the ‘happy family’ card but something just doesn’t feel right to me.

I mean it’s not like I'm hoping they are not happy/ are dysfunctional etc

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 01:03

@LadyVictoriaSponge Nobody gets charged for taking drugs, they get charged for dealing. And Social Services do not care if parents take drugs or alcohol as long as children are being looked after by someone responsible.
Princess Margaret was well known for drinking heavily and taking drugs, but her children had nannies who looked after them.

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TiddyTidTwo · 16/01/2023 01:03

I dunno @Gagaandgag their children come across very well grounded, and Louis is a little spark! despite being in the institution. I think W&K with the Middletons and now Charles know what they need to grow healthily

DaughterOfPsychiatrist · 16/01/2023 01:08

Yes they are dysfunctional but so are lots of families.

All (alleged) sex offenders/adulterers/tax evaders have families, no one gets hatched out of a pod!

Whenharrymetsmelly · 16/01/2023 01:08

Gagaandgag · 16/01/2023 00:59

I find William and Kate fascinating - I feel like they have the ‘happy family’ card but something just doesn’t feel right to me.

I mean it’s not like I'm hoping they are not happy/ are dysfunctional etc

True ... I guess she looks quite alot like a Stepford Wife. Although if I had loads of money and servants, for a pretty cruisy job, I'd be pretty happy too 😊

LadyVictoriaSponge · 16/01/2023 01:09

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 01:03

@LadyVictoriaSponge Nobody gets charged for taking drugs, they get charged for dealing. And Social Services do not care if parents take drugs or alcohol as long as children are being looked after by someone responsible.
Princess Margaret was well known for drinking heavily and taking drugs, but her children had nannies who looked after them.

You said members of the royal family would be out in prison for their drug use! You said it!! Honestly you sound utterly ridiculous, and of course SS would be involved if a parent was a known drug addict. Again stop trying to twist things to suit your narrative, the only drug user we know of for sure is Harry because he has told us.

Boulshired · 16/01/2023 01:14

This page alone has seen Prince Louis to Princess Margaret that is the expanse of judgement of one family. One a woman who died 20 years ago and liked a drink and supposedly done drugs. Most family would fail that scrutiny if that was the extent of a family unit.

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 01:14

@LadyVictoriaSponge do not lie. I said a member of the Royal Family would be in orison if they were an ordinary person. I did not say for what crime. It was not drug use and it is pretty obvious who I am talking about.

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Onnabugeisha · 16/01/2023 01:16

I don’t think a bit of recreational drugs use really qualifies as an addiction in the case of Harry.

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 01:16

SS are not involved if a parent takes drugs but there are paid staff adequately caring for the child. I have known situations like this with paid nannies. As long as the nanny is keeping the child away from the drugs and a drugged up parent, SS do not care.

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LadyVictoriaSponge · 16/01/2023 01:21

So who are these members of the royal family who if they were ordinary people would be put in prison for their drug and alcohol use then OP? I’m very curious, and please don’t say Princess Margaret or anyone dead and buried.

Leemoe · 16/01/2023 01:22

The salient question, if they are just as dysfunctional as the rest of the populace/their subjects, is surely why we defer to them?

Why are they classed as superior to us by mere accident of birth, when in fact they are materially, morally and socially no better then we are?

The point regarding the Kardashians is a wholly inaccurate analogy given that the K family are a relatively new media phenomenenon and their children and subsequent generations will need to work to stay relevant or will likely fade in to something nearing obscurity.
This is not so with the RF.
We are expected to revere people with posh accents who are no better by any conceivable measure than the rest of us.
And in many cases are actually worse.

Yet we have been psychologically manipulated for generations to ignore this fact and pledge blind allegiance to maintaining their reputation and excusing their indiscretions.

It's absolutely crackers if you apply even a modicum of logic to the situation.

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 01:26

@LadyVictoriaSponge Stop making things up

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babsanderson · 16/01/2023 01:27

Leemoe · 16/01/2023 01:22

The salient question, if they are just as dysfunctional as the rest of the populace/their subjects, is surely why we defer to them?

Why are they classed as superior to us by mere accident of birth, when in fact they are materially, morally and socially no better then we are?

The point regarding the Kardashians is a wholly inaccurate analogy given that the K family are a relatively new media phenomenenon and their children and subsequent generations will need to work to stay relevant or will likely fade in to something nearing obscurity.
This is not so with the RF.
We are expected to revere people with posh accents who are no better by any conceivable measure than the rest of us.
And in many cases are actually worse.

Yet we have been psychologically manipulated for generations to ignore this fact and pledge blind allegiance to maintaining their reputation and excusing their indiscretions.

It's absolutely crackers if you apply even a modicum of logic to the situation.

I agree. It makes absolutely no sense.

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Onnabugeisha · 16/01/2023 01:30

The salient question, if they are just as dysfunctional as the rest of the populace/their subjects, is surely why we defer to them? Why are they classed as superior to us by mere accident of birth, when in fact they are materially, morally and socially no better then we are?

We don’t defer to the RF. Sovereignty resides with Parliament. Their function today is symbolic and I think it’s actually more modern and progressive to have an “everyman” or “everywoman” be symbolic of our nation, heritage and history that is a human being who is no better than the average Brit. A real life person with human faults and mistakes. Entirely relatable and relevant.

I think for example, symbolic heads of state that pretend to be holier or infallible is what is dangerous and antiquated.

HeddaGarbled · 16/01/2023 01:30

Well, we’ve all been failing with the revering and blind allegiancing since at least the 70’s.

DaughterOfPsychiatrist · 16/01/2023 01:30

Why are they classed as superior to us by mere accident of birth, when in fact they are materially, morally and socially no better then we are?

I don’t think anyone does think they are our superiors? I see them more like actors forced to participate in a living history pageant from cradle to grave.

Their compensation is a life of luxury, and we get a diplomatic tool that the politicians of other countries can’t resist (see the enormous gathering of world leaders for Queen Liz’s funeral).

LadyVictoriaSponge · 16/01/2023 01:33

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 00:48

Wow! Maybe people who hang out on MN late at night are more likely to have very dysfunctional families?

The Royal Family also have heavy alcohol and drug use. And they would have a long prison sentence if they were an ordinary family.

You said it in your post.

Onnabugeisha · 16/01/2023 01:33

HeddaGarbled · 16/01/2023 01:30

Well, we’ve all been failing with the revering and blind allegiancing since at least the 70’s.

Well, I think 1649 was the watershed moment as that’s when we chopped off the monarchs head.

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 01:37

@LadyVictoriaSponge It referred to my previous post, it was a conversation. I had been talking about raping a sex trafficked teenager, and that comment was in reply to another comment.

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Leemoe · 16/01/2023 01:38

Onnabugeisha · 16/01/2023 01:30

The salient question, if they are just as dysfunctional as the rest of the populace/their subjects, is surely why we defer to them? Why are they classed as superior to us by mere accident of birth, when in fact they are materially, morally and socially no better then we are?

We don’t defer to the RF. Sovereignty resides with Parliament. Their function today is symbolic and I think it’s actually more modern and progressive to have an “everyman” or “everywoman” be symbolic of our nation, heritage and history that is a human being who is no better than the average Brit. A real life person with human faults and mistakes. Entirely relatable and relevant.

I think for example, symbolic heads of state that pretend to be holier or infallible is what is dangerous and antiquated.

I would hope that the 'everyman' of our nation was not a paedophile sympathiser/friend of sexual deviants/incompetent parent/racist/adulterer.

This is not thankfully representative of the character and indiscretions of the very vast majority of those whom I am personally acquainted with.

If the RF are playing the role of societal villains then yes, bravo and well done.

It remains begging the question of why so may seek to excuse their behaviour; but thats essentially none of my business as like most logical people I will have no part in celebrating nor defending, what is at this point ultimately a sad and wholly dysfunctional pantomime.

LadyVictoriaSponge · 16/01/2023 01:38

Ok thanks for the clarification. I’m still curious about the drug users though?

Leemoe · 16/01/2023 01:40

DaughterOfPsychiatrist · 16/01/2023 01:30

Why are they classed as superior to us by mere accident of birth, when in fact they are materially, morally and socially no better then we are?

I don’t think anyone does think they are our superiors? I see them more like actors forced to participate in a living history pageant from cradle to grave.

Their compensation is a life of luxury, and we get a diplomatic tool that the politicians of other countries can’t resist (see the enormous gathering of world leaders for Queen Liz’s funeral).

Oh, that's alright then.

As long as the colonies continue to respect a dead monarch, its all good 🙄