Page 6 | Harry - Just shut up.

lookluv · 2023-01-14T12:20:45+00:00

Dear Harry Please shut up and stop forcing your alleged reality on to everyone else. Every second born child knows they are the spare - try being the second girl after a first daughter. You know they wanted a boy - you are no different, yours is just on a bigger scale. Your wife was probably suffering from "baby blues" post natal depression - not because your family were allegedly crucifying her. Hell I am the hard nosed bitch from hell, who sat on the bathroom floor and bawled my eyes out because DS1 nappy would not stay on and I had a poonami. I also cried just sitting on the sofa in the middle of the day. You wanted to make money from the monarchy on your terms and the Queen said no. You either work for the monarchy but you dont get to pick and choose the bits you want - you get to be patron of the runny poo society aswell as the glory ones that get the glamour. You are an out and out relentless bully. Attacking your brother and family, knowing they will not rise to your lies and insults. There may be an element of truth to the odd thing you claim but you know what families do not air their dirty laundry in public - like you are trying to do. Diana was also William's mother -you do not own her and her memory. He has feelings emotions and was hurt just like you. Respect your mothers memory and your brothers feelings . The world gets you and your wife think you will be a better King and Queen, your jealousy knows no bounds. Do you not get the Queen, you are insulting the Queen every time you open your mouth - yet you claim to love her. I am just grateful she passed away before you unleashed this vindictive hell on her - this would surely have killed her. Please go and do what you said you wanted - have some privacy, raise your beautiful children without the hatred you so obviously harbour, from both your privileged upbringings. Do you want Lilibet, to do this to Archie and you in 30 years time? Just shut up now and I hope the RF ( of whom I am not a fan) never apologise to you because what you are doing is far nastier, calculated and vindictive. I now want William to be King ( which I never did) - just to stick it in your face. Please shut up

yorkshirepudsx · 14/01/2023 19:02

MarshaMelrose · 14/01/2023 18:53

And actually out of 50 active threads, just two were about the RF. So go read one of the other 48 if you're really not interested. 😏

You do realise if you drag down on the active threads it reloads/changes what it shows?? So everybody's will be different?

Whenharrymetsmelly · 14/01/2023 19:05

Quveas · 14/01/2023 12:31

Please shut up

That is highly unlikely to happen whilst you all keep up the fantastic publicity. There is no such thing as bad publicity. The vitriolic attacks of the media and various social media have made his book a best seller world-wide, breaking all records for a sales.

So back at you - please shut up.

This 💯

Nicecow · 14/01/2023 19:08

caringcarer · 14/01/2023 12:59

Harry you can say what the hell you like about yourself. But shut up lying about RF. Your supposed non fiction book is full of proven lies. You were in Klosters when your Great Gran died not Eton. Liar. Canada Air did not sell Meghan a first class ticket from Mexico to London. They don't sell first class tickets and don't fly between Mexico and London. Liar. You were not given an Xbox for your 13th birthday by your Mum, they did not come out until you were 17. Liar. Spare, just a fictitious work of your paranoid imagination, most likely caused by your drug taking. You are less popular than Prince Andrew now. You clearly have severe mental health issues. You claim Meghan did not call RF racist but she inferred just that and you agreed. She also claimed to have got married 3 days before your wedding day but again a proven lie. Just stop with the lies.

This is a perfect example of fake news/chinese whispers. Another post said Air NZ does not sell first class tickets from Mexico to London, here is states a different Airline.

Startwithamimosa · 14/01/2023 19:14

ThePalace · 14/01/2023 16:56

@lookluv, you sound a little bitter about being the second child. I'm the second daughter and I definitely wasn't a spare. In fact, I would say I was probably daddy's little girl growing up.

Ha, I agree. I'm the second daughter, and I'm adored by everyone. I'm still the 'baby'.
Think OP has some of her own unresolved issues 🤔

fruitstick · 14/01/2023 19:16

I'm just over half way through.

I'm finding it thoughtful and moving. He is clearly still very troubled by lots of things that happened to him but he comes across well.

The only people who don't come across well in the book are the press, so no wonder they are out for blood.

mrswibblywobbly · 14/01/2023 19:16

caringcarer · 14/01/2023 12:59

Harry you can say what the hell you like about yourself. But shut up lying about RF. Your supposed non fiction book is full of proven lies. You were in Klosters when your Great Gran died not Eton. Liar. Canada Air did not sell Meghan a first class ticket from Mexico to London. They don't sell first class tickets and don't fly between Mexico and London. Liar. You were not given an Xbox for your 13th birthday by your Mum, they did not come out until you were 17. Liar. Spare, just a fictitious work of your paranoid imagination, most likely caused by your drug taking. You are less popular than Prince Andrew now. You clearly have severe mental health issues. You claim Meghan did not call RF racist but she inferred just that and you agreed. She also claimed to have got married 3 days before your wedding day but again a proven lie. Just stop with the lies.

Bloody Hell it’s Jeremy Clarkson.

Roussette · 14/01/2023 19:27

Anthillmobontherun · 14/01/2023 14:01

vera99

You are literally the only person on the internet still defending him! 🤣

No she isn't. I agree with @vera99 posts

Changechangychange · 14/01/2023 19:55

Coffeetableposhbooks · 14/01/2023 13:12

I posted on the other thread, I genuinely believe he has narcissistic personality disorder.

I think he is lapping up the attentions he is getting. He feels he is incredibly important, the saying his book is of historical significance, that he is saving the monarchy, that he wanted to help raise Charlotte and Louis to stop them being treated the same. I would normally not diagnose someone, but this is text book.

see below.

Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental health condition in which people have an unreasonably high sense of their own importance. They need and seek too much attention and want people to admire them. People with this disorder may lack the ability to understand or care about the feelings of others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence, they are not sure of their self-worth and are easily upset by the slightest criticism.

A narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of life, such as relationships, work, school or financial matters. People with narcissistic personality disorder may be generally unhappy and disappointed when they're not given the special favors or admiration that they believe they deserve. They may find their relationships troubled and unfulfilling, and other people may not enjoy being around them.

Treatment for narcissistic personality disorder centers around talk therapy, also called psychotherapy.

Narcissistic personality disorder affects more males than females, and it often begins in the teens or early adulthood. Some children may show traits of narcissism, but this is often typical for their age and doesn't mean they'll go on to develop narcissistic personality disorder.

Symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder and how severe they are can vary. People with the disorder can:

Have an unreasonably high sense of self-importance and require constant, excessive admiration.
Feel that they deserve privileges and special treatment.
Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements.
Make achievements and talents seem bigger than they are.
Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate.
Believe they are superior to others and can only spend time with or be understood by equally special people.
Be critical of and look down on people they feel are not important.
Expect special favors and expect other people to do what they want without questioning them.
Take advantage of others to get what they want.
Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others.
Be envious of others and believe others envy them.
Behave in an arrogant way, brag a lot and come across as conceited.
Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office.
At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they view as criticism. They can:

Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special recognition or treatment.
Have major problems interacting with others and easily feel slighted.
React with rage or contempt and try to belittle other people to make themselves appear superior.
Have difficulty managing their emotions and behavior.
Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change.
Withdraw from or avoid situations in which they might fail.
Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection.
Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, humiliation and fear of being exposed as a failure.

That’s just “being Royal” though, isn’t it? They are all like that. They have courtiers telling them they are special and deserve special treatment, should be treated as superior regardless of their actual achievements, and can only associate with similarly noble people, every day from the day they are born. Of course they are all narcissists. The whole establishment should be scrapped.

Nicecow · 14/01/2023 20:00

fruitstick · 14/01/2023 19:16

I'm just over half way through.

I'm finding it thoughtful and moving. He is clearly still very troubled by lots of things that happened to him but he comes across well.

The only people who don't come across well in the book are the press, so no wonder they are out for blood.

Agree. It's like when Diana died and everyone was against them so they turned it against the RF. It's unfortunate all the lemmings fall for it so easily 😕 😪 these threads are mostly just quoting from the tabloids 🤦🏼‍♀️

bloodyplanes · 14/01/2023 20:03

Anon778833 · 14/01/2023 12:45

Who on this thread has read the book? 🤔

Ive just finished it! Absolute load of self pitying drivel! He was clearly damaged by his mothers death however he is a spoilt, indulged little man with a massive inferiority complex. Not surprisingly he has absolutely no idea of " real life" and has clearly over indulged on the drugs! Its well documented that his mother spoiled him because he was the spare and she didn't want him to feel second best, this has manifested in a massively sense of entitlement and he genuinely doesn't seem to realise that he simply isn't as important as his brother when it comes to the institution of the monarchy. He very obviously harbours resentment and spite towards anyone he feels doesn't show him ( or by default his wife) what he deems to be the correct deference and respect. Imo he has done his father and brother a favour because people can see just what a demanding human being he really is and how hard it must be for them having to put up with his behaviour!

GlendaSugarbeanIsJudgingYou · 14/01/2023 20:09

Its well documented that his mother spoiled him because he was the spare and she didn't want him to feel second best

It is? Where?

BethDuttonsTwin · 14/01/2023 20:11

I keep reading that he’s not being spiteful in the book, I can’t read it, in the same way as I can’t listen to Meghan’s podcast, the cringe is too painful. However I think talking about other people’s personal experiences and pain is as bad as being overtly spiteful. And then of course there’s the companion interviews, where he is indeed moaning about them, making one sided accusations and demanding apologies. The disingenuousness of those who defend this behaviour, airily pretending it’s not that bad is absolutely staggering. He has hung his family out to dry and I don’t know how anyone can deny that.

Whenharrymetsmelly · 14/01/2023 20:13

GlendaSugarbeanIsJudgingYou · 14/01/2023 20:09

Its well documented that his mother spoiled him because he was the spare and she didn't want him to feel second best

It is? Where?

Probably on mumsnet of course!! 🤣

bloodyplanes · 14/01/2023 20:14

@GlendaSugarbeanIsJudgingYou read any biography on Diana or any book written by former members of her staff about their time working for her ( ken wharfe, paul Burrell et al) and they all say the same thing. That Diana overindulged and spoiled Harry because she didn't want him to feel second best to his brother, apparently he was also very naughty when he was small.

fruitstick · 14/01/2023 20:20

BethDuttonsTwin · 14/01/2023 20:11

I keep reading that he’s not being spiteful in the book, I can’t read it, in the same way as I can’t listen to Meghan’s podcast, the cringe is too painful. However I think talking about other people’s personal experiences and pain is as bad as being overtly spiteful. And then of course there’s the companion interviews, where he is indeed moaning about them, making one sided accusations and demanding apologies. The disingenuousness of those who defend this behaviour, airily pretending it’s not that bad is absolutely staggering. He has hung his family out to dry and I don’t know how anyone can deny that.

I think he has hung is family out to fry. Maybe it's deserved, maybe it isn't. But nobody writes an autobiography without discussing their relationships with other people.

Prince Charles did it, Diana did it. They were more underhand about it.

I'm reading the book but I haven't read any of the newspaper articles or watched any of the documentaries so maybe I've missed much of the hysteria.

The fact of the matter is, it's the tabloids who are the villains in this book, and the people who fuel them by buying the papers and endlessly believing them.

They should all feel guilt and shame about that, and probably a lot of the pearl clutches on this thread.

I don't think Harry is perfect or his strategy is spot on, but the vitriol and spite of newspapers is transparent and desperate. Yet still people lap it up.

Bluekerfuffle · 14/01/2023 20:21

Nicecow · 14/01/2023 20:00

Agree. It's like when Diana died and everyone was against them so they turned it against the RF. It's unfortunate all the lemmings fall for it so easily 😕 😪 these threads are mostly just quoting from the tabloids 🤦🏼‍♀️

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Which give direct quotes from the book and his interviews. The press aren’t the only ones that don’t come off well in the book, Harry and Meghan don’t, although I’m sure that wasn’t the intention.

Nicecow · 14/01/2023 20:27

Bluekerfuffle · 14/01/2023 20:21

Which give direct quotes from the book and his interviews. The press aren’t the only ones that don’t come off well in the book, Harry and Meghan don’t, although I’m sure that wasn’t the intention.

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Yes but so much is out of context which is the issue and people take that for gospel. Although I suppose they want to as well, people do love to hate.

It's like when I saw the Netflix promo and also was on mumsnet, I was appalled, then when I actually watched it I was surprised. It still didn't make me like them any more, but it did help me to understand a bit better. I don't think anyone comes off well tbf, the whole thing is a tragic mess. Two families ruined.

Bluekerfuffle · 14/01/2023 20:45

Nicecow · 14/01/2023 20:27

Yes but so much is out of context which is the issue and people take that for gospel. Although I suppose they want to as well, people do love to hate.

It's like when I saw the Netflix promo and also was on mumsnet, I was appalled, then when I actually watched it I was surprised. It still didn't make me like them any more, but it did help me to understand a bit better. I don't think anyone comes off well tbf, the whole thing is a tragic mess. Two families ruined.

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If no one comes across badly in the book, why did he feel the need to tell his side of the story and want an apology?

fruitstick · 14/01/2023 21:30

Because he wants to be heard. And you can apologise to someone even if you're not a terrible person or made to look bad. You can apologise because you have caused pain, which his family have, even if it was for understandable reasons.

They are all damaged. The difference is we find Charles and William's damage more palatable.

Nicecow · 14/01/2023 21:58

Bluekerfuffle · 14/01/2023 20:45

If no one comes across badly in the book, why did he feel the need to tell his side of the story and want an apology?

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DatasCat · 14/01/2023 23:38

Mummyoflittledragon · 14/01/2023 18:40

Camilla briefing against him is a figment of his imagination.

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Ah, but which Camilla? Tominey or Long?