Harry just protecting the other "spares"

[Magnoliasunrise]

Shocked to see in this mornings Telegraph that Harry is concerned for the other "spares" He just wants to break the bad parenting pattern and stop it happening to Charlotte or George. If I was W&K I would be absolutely LIVID by now. What does anyone else think?

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/prince-harry-interview-bryony-gordon-spare-book/

Well, he says lots of things.

He doesn't actually state what any of the supposed leaks are. IIRC, the only concrete evidence of a specific leak cited, was the one he accused Camilla of committing, following her first meeting with William - which was immediately and roundly disproved, the leak having originated with Camilla's PA, who spoke to her husband, who spoke to a journalist. The PA resigned at the time. Everything else is just vague, unspecified "briefings" against H (and later M) to gain "popularity".

The bridesmaid thing is about Kate being reported as the one crying, a report I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong) Royal correspondent Camila Tominy says she got from 2 sources, neither within the RF. So the RF didn't leak a story saying Kate cried. However, Meghan says she was the one who cried and Harry says the RF should have corrected the Tominy story. Well, the RF didn't leak the first one, so why should they correct it?

@SomethingOnce

Clearly, he’s been terribly badly advised and he’s in a dreadful tangle

Perhaps he doesn’t care. He clearly blames the institution, the British media, and probably indirectly his father for the events that led up to mother’s death (to say nothing of the suspicions over the actual crash itself). His feelings toward his brother are probably also luke warm at best given how poor his relationship with Meghan is (regardless of who is to blame for that).

On the flip side he is now absolutely loaded, and has 400 million Americans (to say nothing for the rest of the world) deeply entertained and interested in anythjng and everything he says/does. I’m puzzled why people think he would be that worried about “finding a way back” into the hearts and minds of King Charles, the Daily Mail et al, and a hostile British public.

This 100%.

I agree, Harry and Meghan are threatening Charles, and William especially, with blackmail, with another book re things Harry ‘doesn’t want the world to know about William’ sure he doesn’t. He can’t wait. He put that threat in on purpose.

It’s blackmail and Harry tells us the conditions. Charles, William, and Catherine must apologize to Meghan for not falling for her con, and they must put Meg in charge of the CW so that she and he will have a lot of power to attack the RF over and over again and to free the CW countries from the cruel monarchy. Which will lead to many fawning magazine covers of Meg and standing ovations at awards ceremonies and pictures splashed of Meghan being adulated by the Hollywood celebrities who wouldn’t give her the time of day pre-RF connections. She loves adulation, power, and money. Her voice is put-on and fake, how does anybody fall for it, is what is the question. She is out for revenge too that is obvious. William and Catherine saw through her. She is still trying to get what she wants and she is using Harry and whoever she can pull in to do it.

Louis probably says Uncle Who?

We must be watching a different video, because there's no 'evil' expression whatsoever! Ridiculous to suggest there is.

He’s such a victim. Waaaa I was only the second most important child in the United Kingdom 😭😭😭😭🎻

Also he is lying saying he only existed encase something bad happened to William. Diana had three siblings, I seriously doubt she’d have stopped at one child whoever she was married to.

There are many rumours flying about that there is a lot of dirt in Harry. tbh I did not really believe it because why in earth would he write on this knowing that there is a risk that it could be exposed ? But then again I agree his statement about there being a lot more about what he could write sounded like a definite threat to continue this tirade if the RF continued with their silence .he really does sound like he thinks he and Meghan are some kind of saviours ? So perhaps he is not thinking straight ? If the rumours are true , and I hope they are not , then I think it will come out within the next couple of weeks , or it is just not true.

Yes. the celebrity guest list speaks volumes. Was she forced to invite them all too?

Reading the article it does sound like Harry is happy and is enjoying this cathartic experience. He sounds like he's on a high of the attention he's getting and the good he believes he's doing.

I think where he's misguided is in believing he can now convince his family of this new narrative which has helped him.
But he can't control others.

He really believes they will see the light like him and thank him. In 5 or 10 years.

I think as this optimistic glow wears off and the reality of his isolation and his family not apologising and thanking him as he expects becomes real this new found happiness will wear off.

He really believes he's doing good.
He sees himself as a leader delivering the light.
That's not going to go well.

@Boofay even as a millenial myself, all this boomer vs millenial talk re: an inherently fucked up institution makes me scratch my head.

The premise of the monarchy — and the extreme wealth and privilege they enjoy — is unequal birthright, or the idea they were born "above" others. This idea remains universally effed up no matter what generation you're in.

I'm guessing that even going to kindergarten at this age, they and their peers will be well aware they (C&L) are more special than all the other little children. (As someone with an early years edu background, kids are very alert to nuanced differences in treatment.)

Unless they leave or abolish the monarchy, no amount of generational "healing" will be able to unpick the fact that their entire existence is based upon the notion of a hierarchy.

Again, what has Meghan done to you to inspire such venom? It can't be healthy to be this consumed by hatred for a complete stranger.

Having choice is not the same as having everything you want. By that token I had ‘no choice or where to get married’ because I couldn’t get married where they did. I also had ‘no choice’ of where to live as I couldn’t afford a multimillion pound house in the Cotswolds. As it happens they were also given a multimillion pound house in the Cotswolds that they could have decamped to from Nott Cott.

Gosh I’ve never seen that footage before. I’m usually wary of things like that as I think too much can be read into an expression and nobody can beam all day long. But that evil expression at little 3? year old Charlotte is plain as day, horrifying!

Tom Bowers book on Meghan accused her of being nasty to Charlotte in the bridesmaids dress fittings and making a point to be much nicer to her friend Jessica’s child, calling her the “mini maid of honour”. Apparently she was unhappy about Charlotte being a bridesmaid.

There are very few people who actually know what it is like to live life as a member of the RF.
There are plenty who are prepared to criticise and judge harshly.
How many of us would really want to trade places with H?
Whatever happened to #be kind?
I think he has experienced some very significant trauma in his life and has made some bad decisions but he doesn't deserve an outpouring of hate and judgement from people who don't even know him.

Yes I’d hate it but then again I’d hate to be famous. Harry is obviously a complete fame whore though. He enjoys the fame/attention, that’s the difference.

As for why they dont give up their titles - Harry has it seems never had a problem with the concept of Royalty itself, just the current British manifestation of it. And being Prince Harry etc is obviously better from a Brand sense.

As for why the Crown don’t take the titles from him - easy - fear of what he might say next. He probably knows a heck of a lot more dodgy stuff than he’s let slip thus far. Not to mention that the first non-white/mixed race member(s) of the British royal family being made an official outcast would be a really, really bad look (Something that often gets underestimated imo).

I think the best antidote to Spareinitus is to have that third child. Louis and Charlotte can slag of George's "luckiness" and celebrate their own freedoms. He, as heir, will also have two different siblings to bounce off rather than one resentful one. Perhaps Kate should have another after all

Well he is a dick. And a pretty thick one too. All that money spent on a private education, and this is the end result.

Think about how much of Harry's scandalous behaviour must have been covered up over the years. There never was all that much negative press about Harry, just a few controversial pieces every now and again, which is why he was a very popular prince until he met Meghan. The fact that he was so popular with the public, disproves his accusation that the press treated him badly to make his brother, Camilla and Charles look better. His public image was very good until all the drama with Meghan kicked off. Also consider the media blackout on Doria and a range of other aspects relating to Meghan. They were protected from salacious stories that could have been publicised.

In contrast, the gossip Harry and Meghan are dishing out to a global audience about his family is hugely damaging to his family's reputation, both individually and as an institution.

Whatever articles were published in the British tabloid, about either Harry (nothing too spectacular over the years) or Meghan, this content only ever reached a readerships of a few million at any given time. Meanwhile the Sussexes are bitching and venting about Harry's family and the British Monarchy to a global audience. It's inexcusable and very hypocritical.

@Suzi89

Diana had three siblings, I seriously doubt she’d have stopped at one child whoever she was married to

People with such insight into the minds of complete strangers! It’s all very Eastenders at the end of the day.

The 2013 changes had no effect on Anne, it only applied to children born after its inception. Anne was 3rd at birth then 2nd when the Queen acceded in '52, she was then demoted for being female when Andrew then Edward were born. Oddly enough I don't recall her ever having a foot stamping strop about the injustice of it all!

@shelefttheweb
Out of curiosity, I was still wondering what your answer to my question was?

Whatever happened to #be kind?

people saw it for the manipulative bs it is.

In echo codependency, the narc controller's attitudes, opinions and wants are mimicked by the victim who speaks their views as though they are his own. You need to go back to how he was immediately before falling for the narc in order to evaluate whether he was a fame whore, money hungry, liar, manipulator. You will find that (despite his many flaws) he wasn't but she already displayed those traits in spades-according to ex-friends/family who actually knew her intimately (which acting colleagues don't)..

It is a sure way to sink a victim of narcissism by confusing their voice with that of the narc and intimating that they were hiding their true colours all along.