Harry just protecting the other "spares"

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Shocked to see in this mornings Telegraph that Harry is concerned for the other "spares" He just wants to break the bad parenting pattern and stop it happening to Charlotte or George. If I was W&K I would be absolutely LIVID by now. What does anyone else think?

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/prince-harry-interview-bryony-gordon-spare-book/

All this is driven by Meghan’s hatred and jealousy of Catherine and her children. She was scorned by William who she thought she could con as easily as Harry. Harry is doing all this on her orders, the book was to exonerate Meghan’s manipulations and attack his family. To demand apology and give Meghan what she wants, power and position, status, and superiority over Catherine. It is so obvious. She didn’t like walking behind Catherine, she didn’t like not procuring prince and princess titles for her children that she could merch off of, she didn’t like the truth of her bullying people ‘below’ her to get out, that’s why she is enraged because the Palace didn’t lie for her and cover up her bullying staff and making them cry over their desks, as Harry admits.

Not proven and no evidence has ever been found! Shakespeare was the mouthpiece of the Tudors so he wrote R III to please them!

George VI was doing fine until his brother did a runner. He had a happy marriage, two adored daughters, a nice Mayfair house and access to houses in Scotland and Norfolk. The Queen Mother never forgave the Windsors for destroying their idyllic existence as spares.

Harry should stick to talking about his own children and the drawbacks of growing up in LA with two unstable parents.
I’m sure they love their children very much and are good parents at this early years stage, but they really are growing up absorbing all this negativity towards their only <Royal> family from their bitter parents, these books and interviews won’t disappear , in a few years time The Sussex’s children will be able to look them up , and then what? Either feel resentment towards their uncle and cousins or worse , feel resentment towards their parents.

@MysteryBelle that sums it up perfectly. She is channeling all this through Harry's out of control sibling envy.

Anyways, Harry is not the spare.

Gosh I’ve never seen that footage before. I’m usually wary of things like that as I think too much can be read into an expression and nobody can beam all day long. But that evil expression at little 3? year old Charlotte is plain as day, horrifying!

Evil expression?! Are you a bit mad?

I’m no fan of MM, but that change in expression and dip of the head could easily be read as responsive concern for a little one hesitantly looking up. No way of any of us knowing.

This picking away at interactions involving children as entertainment is quite intrusive for the children.

the drawbacks of growing up in LA with two unstable parents

Luckily for them, that is 'normal' in LA! 😂

Oh shut up. It’s exactly what you’re doing on this forum. Are you stupid enough to think Diana had a kid she didn’t want encase William needed a kidney?!

Whether they have a limited choice or not is clearly irrelevant. Who in life actually has a free choice? Most of us are limited by money or responsibilities or work or whatever. His choice is no more (and probably less) limited than 99.9% of the population of the world.

@Boofay Sorry, to elaborate: if they were born above others, than of course within their own ranks there will be some born above others as well. E.g. Louis superior to Charlotte by birthright. As modern parents, Will & Kate may try their best to make them feel "equal", but realistically, the whole family's semi-jobless gilded existence is predicated upon this hierarchy. So it's not really a generational thing, just a realistic appraisal of a social construct.

We're not all limited as grown adults by our family though.

But Anne was born "the spare" in 1950 and remained so for 10 years until Andrew was born in 1960. So much of her upbringing was as the spare

A narcissist will cause so much havoc. I don’t even feel sorry for Harry though because he doesn’t seem like a very nice person.

@sep20 nothing too spectacular?? cocaine use, nazi dress up, pictures of his bare arse etc etc

I think Meghan has validated how Harry was already feeling about being the ‘spare’. He is consumed with jealousy and being encouraged to analyse every single minor interaction and disagreement turning them into something else in his mind.

I really can’t understand a point of view where there is anything bad about being second sibling in this situation. He had the money and freedom, he could have any career that he wants, live anywhere he wants, marry whoever he wants. William has a lot of responsibility and restriction. I believe the majority of people would choose to be in Harry’s position rather than William.

@oohokay, oh I agree with you too. There's so much at play here. I'm on the cusp of being anti royal, but more that I just don't give a f.
I do believe that each generation has some work to do to fix problems from the generation or two previous, but you're right, the prince's kids have so much more to deal with.

What I don't understand is why Harry isn't allowed a memoir. They're pretty common in the world of rich, famous and/or influential. Why are other memoirs ok for people to spill their guts and yet Harry is bashed for telling his story?

Thank you. I agree, she is channeling and using Harry’s deep seated resentment and hatred toward his brother to get what she wants.

And absolutely correct, he is no longer the spare and hasn’t been for quite a while. He and Meghan are unhinged to declare that they in any capacity have the right to speak about William and Catherine’s children. They’re worse than I ever thought. Very evil with a sly agenda.

There's absolutely no consistent evidence that being the spare (or one of the spares) in the royal family means you are destined to become an embittered fuckwit. Harry needs to realise that every family has its own unique problems and that every single person walking the planet has had to cope with issues relating to their own upbringing and family dynamics. I honestly think he'd do better to campaign for those less fortunate than members of the royal family and to relinquish all titles and inheritances related to his royal status and then campaign to abolish the monarchy altogether. However - as half-in, half-out taught us - he actually loves all the deference and privilege that comes with royal status and resents all the boring bits and public scrutiny.

I suppose Anne was young enough to not really feel any ‘Spare’ pressure before getting pushed down the line by Andrew?

If she’d been 13/14 it might’ve hit different?

Although possibly not, if Anne’s formidable, no-nonsense personality was already evident in childhood!

Margaret’s happiness was surely more hampered by the social mores of the time than by being second in line? Harry was able to marry his divorcee, Margaret sadly met hers at a very different time in history.

I’d much rather be the spare - still lots of luxury but far less responsibility.

Agree with above, if Harry had wanted it his children could’ve have a similar upbringing to Peter and Zara (I remember that their lack of titles was quite the news story In it’s day, seems to have been a very sensible decision of Anne’s!)

Blame Beyonce.

That's so true, the children seem to have such fun together and I'm sure that George etc joins in when not 'on show' like the Jubilee concert. Does Harry never stop to think what he's denying them? There used to be some lovely pictures of Harry with the Cambridge/Tindall/Philips children at summer events, playing the madcap uncle but his children are not having those experiences which is a shame for them.

This seems highly unlikely as the population of the USA is only 333m. Obviously harryitis is catching.

Or Zara, they had their wedding in Edinburgh and for a royal wedding it was relatively low-key.

Giles Coren has admitted to making the whole thing up at a boozy lunch...

I’d venture that Princess Anne has her horses and is therefore entirely satisfied - neigh (see what I did there), delighted - with the way things turned out. Imagine being called upon to divert attention to all that monarch nonsense!