Harry just protecting the other "spares"

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Shocked to see in this mornings Telegraph that Harry is concerned for the other "spares" He just wants to break the bad parenting pattern and stop it happening to Charlotte or George. If I was W&K I would be absolutely LIVID by now. What does anyone else think?

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/prince-harry-interview-bryony-gordon-spare-book/

Ha, I didn’t realised you had asked the same question 😁

I keep wondering this.

We have bridesmaid dresses which seems to be six of one and half a dozen of the other in terms of who cried, and the bullying.

Harry says in his book staff were sobbing at their desks, and he also said William ‘believed the press narrative’ about it.

You’d think ‘daily leaks’ would yield much more than these two (questionable) examples.

Harry says in his book staff were sobbing at their desks, and he also said William ‘believed the press narrative’ about it.

But if Harry maintains that William believed the press narrative, then clearly Harry doesn't believe that William set that narrative by leaking it. So another story the RF didn't leak.

I can’t find a single example of something he claims was specifically leaked by William and/or his team.

So what’s the problem with William.

Ive noticed everything single time his brother is mentioned he goes into the same speech about ‘planting and leaking stories, and British press’

But never what was leaked.

I’m increasingly convinced there are no stories, and he’s just pissed off that William didn’t immediately fawn over his girlfriend.

I don’t like the way he talks about Meghan either. Like she’s a trophy wife, not a person in her own right but just an extension of him/his mother.

When asked in one of the interviews (think maybe Netflix actually?) what he thought when he saw her walking down the aisle, it was something like ‘look at me, look at what I’ve got’

Like she only exists just to validate him.

I’ve always thought he was to blame more than her, just by virtue of he should have known better, but I actually feel sorry for her. She bought a dud, and it’s no takesies backsies

Just posted this on another thread, but thought I'd post here too. An incredibly flattering Daily Mail article from 2015 about what Harry would do post army. It starts with Diana being determined Harry would not be "the spare". Confirming my guess that the motion that he was a spare was planted by her, and that she may have asked the brothers to promise to rule together or something similar. The article goes on to say Charles also didn't want Harry to feel like "the spare", thought that Harry was the most important asset to the RF at the time because of his charisma, and did not want him to end up like Andrew. Harry wanted to continue Diana's work in Africa. He met Meghan a year or so after this article.

Obviously, take it with the large dose of salt we should probably take for any RF stories in the tabloids - but interesting nevertheless give it's timing and how we know things have panned out for him.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3007014/Prince-Harry-left-Army-honour-mother-s-memory.html

I hope you’re a novelist. That imagination is fantastic.

Harry didn’t really ever have bad press, even when he did things like dressing up as a Nazi, it didn’t stick.

He was always well regarded by the public.

The problems started with Meghan, but even she didn’t really get that much bad press either in the beginning, it was all ‘fab four’ and she was a ‘breath of fresh air’ and a way for the monarchy to ‘modernise’. I’m talking about overall here

I’d say it was the Markles who kicked off the bad press ‘campaign’, the brother and sister were saying all sorts, about how she’d destroy the RF etc, and then people started digging into her.
Then the bullying report, came out, and by this time it all started gaining momentum.

Hmm the first part of that I'm not sure was a good approach. Talking about Harry coming along to William's first day at Eton "so he wasn't left out". What about each of them having their own time to shine and have their parents there just for them? It smacks to me of having to buy siblings gifts on each others birthday so they don't get jealous. Fairness and equality are different things.

Like a lot of things he's said, it's just surprising coming from a man his age. It shows a total lack of respect for boundaries. If he's suggested it once to William and been rebuffed, that's the end of the matter. Whether he's right or wrong.

Also, can't help noticing, when Kate offers unsolicited advice on bridesmaids' dresses she's being unreasonable and interfering. But Harry when Harry offers unsolicited advice to his brother on how to bring up his own children, he's just trying to help?

I think the problem Meghan had was that she hadn't been famous enough before this to get bad press. Her profile was at the 'that actress from suits is seen in a nice dress' level. In the Netflix series, her cast members says she was the one who was always agreeing to selfies with fans and had her own blog. She'd only ever got positive feedback from being famous. The intrusiveness and misrepresentation came as a shock.

I remember an interview with 18-year-old Emma Watson when she was asked by an interviewer if being famous was all it was cracked up to be. She got quite annoyed and said something about why could newspapers not check their facts before printing stuff about her (not an unreasonalbe response). She then controlled herself and said that, on the whole, it was a wonderful opportunity and the cast were all great - Warner Brothers were paying her millions to sell a movie, not moan on TV. Seeing that level of maturity in a teenager who got some really nasty, and quite sexist press, I just can't feel that much sympathy for a 40-year-old who has always wanted to be famous and then doesn't like it when she gets there.

Hmm the first part of that I'm not sure was a good approach. Talking about Harry coming along to William's first day at Eton "so he wasn't left out". What about each of them having their own time to shine and have their parents there just for them? It smacks to me of having to buy siblings gifts on each others birthday so they don't get jealous. Fairness and equality are different things.

I totally agree, @BigBoysDontCry . It would have just reinforced to the younger that they needed special treatment to make up for something they lacked - rather than trying to build them up as an independent person of substance who is special in their own right.

Have you read any of his book ? Then you will know thus is probably utter bollocks as the press writes whatever they want to sensationalise ?

I'm not claiming to be the perfect parent but I have two adult sons who would still consider themselves best friends, I appreciate that a lot of that will be down to personality. However neither have been jealous even though in a lot of things they were treated differently at different times but I think overall fairly. They have different interests and values. I have a friend who is scrupulous about making sure she spends the same on her DC to the penny and that they have the same number of parcels at Christmas to the same value and her DC are jealous constantly and look up the prices of their gifts etc. I just don't get it.

It just seems to me that a lot of this issue between H&W is down to sheer jealousy. What was all that about William picking the better bedroom at Balmoral? Would H not have picked that first over his brother then? If not then what is he moaning about?

@Dobby123456 I don't follow the actors, but from glimpses of news articles over the years, it's interesting how some have followed the exact trajectory/traits of the characters they play.

Eg Emma being very sensible and academically focused (which isn't to be taken as a given, as she has ADHD-PI - ADHD isn't a problem of intelligence at all, but its diagnostic criteria is issues with executive functioning/motivation, so obviously often presents issues with applying yourself academically) like Hermione.

This one is more of a random example than a case study, but the Ron Weasley actor being famous for splashing out on a kitted out ice cream van, giving out free 99s to local children, taking on a Willy Wonka type character.

It could be a case of perfect casting, but I also think you consciously or unconsciously model yourself on the traits of the character/role model you play, especially over many years through your entire formative childhood/puberty.

He should be more worried about this.

Also, how his children may resent him for cutting them off from their family and cousins.

I don’t think he’s very well and although this in incredibly hurtful for his family, I can’t help but feel sorry for him and his mental state.

The writer in the OP's link writes well but her articles are often about her MH issues, and she has written some things about what she got up to whilst drunk.

I've thought that as well. And Emma, having a tendency like Hermione, to work too hard, and maybe take herself a bit too seriously, I think rubbed some people up the wrong way. Hence the negative stories leaked to the press and then sensationalised.

wishingyouwell · Today 10:27
Because you have tried to get your point across privately on numerous occasions and it hasn't worked, your family continue to play the dirty game with the press.
The leaking and planting began with your family briefing the press non-stop so whilst you love your family dearly you would feel no guilt in having your say. At last.
"Leaking & Planting" "Evil Press" Harry is obsessed! Of course the press print (and embroider) stories about the Royal Family. Those supplying stories are sometimes (often) disgruntled employees.

Why does Harry think it's his family?

His problem is that he wants the Royal Family to control the Press. He is too thick to realise that would never be tolerated in a free society

Very interesting and I can't help but think he would have been so much better off had he stayed in the army. Maybe he should ask if they'll have him back?🤔.....

I still can't understand why the phone hacking element hasn't been brought into play.
Harry himself is currently embrolled in lawsuits against the press for hacking his phone - surely that would indicated that maybe William hasn't briefed against him at all, and stories found their way into the press through hacking?

He can't claim it's hacking because he's claiming they're false stories, although it seems they may well not be.

They won’t want him, the military has a zero tolerance policy on drugs…

That’s a very low blow. She’s sober now and should be applauded for that. My criticism of her is her sycophancy.

Not where H is concerned...

@Blossomtoes , it's not a very low blow. I have read some of her articles, and IIRC they were all about her MH issues or her or her family. Maybe that was her brief, but she has a child, and that child might read about things her mother did whilst drunk, when at the time her mother was a married woman and a mother.