Page 20 | Harry just protecting the other "spares"

Magnoliasunrise · 2023-01-14T06:52:53+00:00

Shocked to see in this mornings Telegraph that Harry is concerned for the other "spares" He just wants to break the bad parenting pattern and stop it happening to Charlotte or George. If I was W&K I would be absolutely LIVID by now. What does anyone else think? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/prince-harry-interview-bryony-gordon-spare-book/

steff13 · 15/01/2023 22:19

Placcyboel · 14/01/2023 11:15

I feel slightly concerned for Charlotte. This is the second time that Harry has talked about her negatively and it looks like Meghan does not like her either link here.

Ok, I have no idea who that guy is, nor do I know what his expertise is, but I love his accent. "Shar-lot" ❤️

MysteryBelle · 15/01/2023 22:30

TrashyPanda · 15/01/2023 09:28

Harry has a deep seated inferiority complex. And it’s not all down to being “the spare”. A lot of it is down to who he is and the choices he has made.

as children, William was much better looking and did much better at school. Harry had to repeat a year of school, which must have been embarrassing.

as young men, William went to university - Harry didn’t have the grades or the intelligence.

William did military service, then worked as an air ambulance pilot. Harry did service, then left because he could progress no further, due to his lack of intelligence.

William had a long term relationship with a girl from a stable and loving family, before he married her.
Harry had several failed relationships then married a woman who is estranged from most of her family.

telling all these petty and spiteful tales is giving him a sense of power, and he is relishing every moment of it.

Great post. Agree 100%

Soapnutty · 15/01/2023 22:48

Inkpotlover · 14/01/2023 13:43

It was the constitution that blocked Margaret's marriage, not the Queen Mother. Because Peter Townsend was a divorcee, she would need the monarch's permission as head of the Church of England to marry. The Queen suggested they wait until she turned 25 for the fuss to die down and PT was sent to Europe to work as an envoy to wait it out. Then, when Margaret did turn 25, they realised the small print of the constitution said she also needed the permission of Parliament and the only way they'd grant it was if she renounced her claims of succession and became a commoner. She refused, he met someone else and then she married Snowdon.

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Papers show govt had told her she could keep her title and income from the civil purse, but she could no longer be in line of succession.

Blossomtoes · 15/01/2023 22:54

Soapnutty · 15/01/2023 22:48

Papers show govt had told her she could keep her title and income from the civil purse, but she could no longer be in line of succession.

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Looks to me as if her ardour cooled. She was already only 3rd in line by 1955. What realistically did she have to lose by no longer being in the line?

Soapnutty · 15/01/2023 23:12

I wonder if Harry and Meghan were annoyed at the possibility their children would not have Prince or Princess titles in Charles bid to to slim down the monarchy as he has indicated for a few years he would like to do. This aim is probably to increase the monarchy chances of survival. The Danish Queen recently slimmed down the monarchy and her second son is not happy his children have lost their Prince and Princess titles (they keep their Count and Countess titles) and future as working royals. The Swedish King also did it in 2019 but the family members and their children that have been stepped down from working royal duties and titles have been fine about it with the parents saying it will be better for their children’s future. Norway has had a slimmed down monarchy for a while now with only the first born and King and Queen being working royals with HRH titles.

The Queen during her reign reduced the number of more distant royal family members receiving money from the civil list (now known as the Sovereign Grant) as it became clear the public were less favourable to so many of the members getting money. Charles reforms would obviously slim the monarchy down even further.

What is interesting is in the Oprah interview Meghan and Harry said there was talk of Archie possibly no longer getting the titles of Prince when Charles was King. They seemed to have read it as a snub and hinted it was possibly due to Archie being of mixed race which obviously would be bad. However, due to reports for a few years now saying Charles wanted to slim down the monarchy, I think it is possible that it was mooted to Harry and Meghan perhaps only the Monarch’s first born and their children should be working royals with titles and it was nothing do with Harry’s children being mixed race but just Charle’s long term plans to slim the monarchy down. Should Charles have wanted to do this Harry and Meghan have made it hard for him to do it as some will always wrongly believe he has only done it because of Meghan’s strong insinuation in the Oprah interview it was due to the children being mixed race.

HopHopNob · 15/01/2023 23:13

Regarding Anne, Andrew and Edward being spares, wouldn't be funny if they wrote a book each describing their experience of being a spare in a completely different tone? It's like that's his brand now, Harry Spare TM, but he is not the first nor will he be the last spare. The royal family need a strong leader, QEII was that, let's see if King Charles can rise to the challenge, he needs to control that rogue spare and quick.

Soapnutty · 15/01/2023 23:14

Blossomtoes · 15/01/2023 22:54

Looks to me as if her ardour cooled. She was already only 3rd in line by 1955. What realistically did she have to lose by no longer being in the line?

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Some historians now think as you say her ardour cooled.

Ineke · 15/01/2023 23:15

Bring back The Queen. Enough of all this self pity.

Theunamedcat · 15/01/2023 23:25

Ineke · 15/01/2023 23:15

Bring back The Queen. Enough of all this self pity.

She is kinda dead

AutumnCrow · 15/01/2023 23:36

Sillyname63 · 15/01/2023 18:14

The funny thing is he has had two children himself did he not think that Lillibet might not consider herself as a spare? Or doesn't it apply if you are a girl?

That is an excellent point.

The Dukedom of Sussex is heritable and the heir apparent is Archie Mountbatten-Windsor.

BillLius · 15/01/2023 23:44

AutumnCrow · 15/01/2023 23:36

That is an excellent point.

The Dukedom of Sussex is heritable and the heir apparent is Archie Mountbatten-Windsor.

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Ah bollocks, you beat me to it.

AutumnCrow · 15/01/2023 23:46

BillLius · 15/01/2023 23:44

Ah bollocks, you beat me to it.

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We can meld our minds

Ohnonevermind · 16/01/2023 00:10

You’d think as the self appointed spokesman for ‘spares’ he might have had conversations with the other spares in the royal family about how they felt, to understand if his ‘ experience’ was unique.

Clearly not

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 16/01/2023 00:59

It's all playing out as Blind Gossip said it would do.

Darlingx · 16/01/2023 06:26

Shelefttheweb · 14/01/2023 11:13
Styling himself after the Duke of Gloucester/Richard III perhaps? He ‘looked after’ his brother’s kids too.

😂

Celestine70 · 16/01/2023 08:44

I'm not a royal family supporter but I think he is despicable. He has said awful things about his family for money. I also think he is totally thick and not self-aware. He comes across as petty and petulant. I wonder how he will cope when she divorces him.

Merida46 · 16/01/2023 09:28

Harry is behaving like a toddler.🙄

wishingyouwell · 16/01/2023 10:17

His family have been briefing the press against him and Meghan for years. About time he stood up to it.
His deep love for family especially father and brother is actually very apparent in his memoir. Try reading it with an open heart and mind.

MarshaMelrose · 16/01/2023 10:23

wishingyouwell · 16/01/2023 10:17

His family have been briefing the press against him and Meghan for years. About time he stood up to it.
His deep love for family especially father and brother is actually very apparent in his memoir. Try reading it with an open heart and mind.

If you love someone, why do you reveal personal and intimate details about them? Why do you theaten them with revealing more personal and intimate details?
That's not love as I recognise it. It sounds more like controlling abuse than love.

wishingyouwell · 16/01/2023 10:27

Because you have tried to get your point across privately on numerous occasions and it hasn't worked, your family continue to play the dirty game with the press.
The leaking and planting began with your family briefing the press non-stop so whilst you love your family dearly you would feel no guilt in having your say. At last.

Blossomtoes · 16/01/2023 10:42

wishingyouwell · 16/01/2023 10:27

Because you have tried to get your point across privately on numerous occasions and it hasn't worked, your family continue to play the dirty game with the press.
The leaking and planting began with your family briefing the press non-stop so whilst you love your family dearly you would feel no guilt in having your say. At last.

Because you weren’t allowed to have the half in half out arrangement you wanted and you’re being paid $$$$$$.

StatisticallyChallenged · 16/01/2023 10:43

Has he produced any evidence of this leaking yet, or even specified the stories?

So far I think he's only named the BM dresses (in a version which doesn't add up) when the author of that story very strongly suggests her sources are staff, and an old one re William meeting Camilla where the source was known long ago.

BigBoysDontCry · 16/01/2023 11:25

Doesn't he think that William also has a very specific experience of being the heir and losing his mum as a young teen. Or is Harry's experience of being the spare the only one that matters?

Also his experience is about his particular circumstances and personality and upbringing which is probably not relevant to Charlotte and Louis

MarshaMelrose · 16/01/2023 11:31

wishingyouwell · 16/01/2023 10:27

Because you have tried to get your point across privately on numerous occasions and it hasn't worked, your family continue to play the dirty game with the press.
The leaking and planting began with your family briefing the press non-stop so whilst you love your family dearly you would feel no guilt in having your say. At last.

What stories have the RF leaked and planted since they left?

BellePeppa · 16/01/2023 11:37

wishingyouwell · 16/01/2023 10:17

His family have been briefing the press against him and Meghan for years. About time he stood up to it.
His deep love for family especially father and brother is actually very apparent in his memoir. Try reading it with an open heart and mind.

What kind of things? I’m not saying they haven’t but what terrible things have been leaked as I can’t really remember anything (today’s news tomorrow’s fish and chip wrapping type thing). I’m hard pushed to know what reports have caused so much angst.