Do you think Harry and Meghan are happy?

[Winterday1991]

It seems to me like Meghan plays the role of someone in love from footage of them over the years. It seems to me like their superior love story in the face of adversity is part of their brand and they are playing on it. For Harry, I have no doubt he is besotted with her, but just can’t believe that she truly loves him? My gut feeling is that she is just not as authentic as she claims.

Are they really happy and in love as they claim or is it all just a smokescreen?

I'd like to believe they were happy and making a good home for their young children. Sadly I don't believe they are.

Harry must be a complete nightmare to live with, and while I think Meghan wanted the fame, riches, status and connections and worked hard to get Harry, I don't think the fairytale has lived up to expectations. She didn't do enough homework about what she was getting into and Harry didn't bother to tell her.

It's very sad and I think with more time it could have worked out differently. At this point though, I struggle to see them staying together.

She has only gained in the long term, just as he has only lost.

How do you conclude that?

Andrew has done wrong, paid the price, and been pushed into retirement. But is he unhappy?
Still lives in a nice house with the love of his life, two lovely daughters, sons-in-law and grandkids. The whole family were together at Christmas. Actually I don't think Andrew is that unhappy.

Harry is such an angry and bitter man. This must spill over in to his personal life
He cannot be easy to live with
Now he has put a target on his back because of the 25 people he said he killed.
If I were Meghan I would run for the hills and take my children with me.
Harry is a stupid man and she is certainly brighter than him

Well, if they're not happy and if they do split up, one thing is for sure: it will be spun as the RF and the British Media's fault.

How can you be happy when everything you do, you compare and measure to your sibling? You define your life by whether you have as much as them rather than being fully focused on what's in the room with you?

How can you be happy if you feel you have to live a life of keeping up with the Jones and you get embarrassed at the idea of the wrong brand of perfectly clean and functional furniture?

How can you be happy if you say you are on a mission to force and apology from your family and constantly say you want a reconciliation on your terms and your terms alone?

And how can you be happy if you are saying 'well I'm going to dish even more dirt if I don't get exactly what I want and my family don't acknowledge my grievances' in the way you want?

How can you be happy if you say that telling your truth makes you feel better, but then start to say 'oh no this is all be spun unfairly by the press' when the public don't start fawning at your truth. It's clearly not about telling the truth - it's about seeking validation. If it's about still seeking validation from others how can you be happy?

How can you be happy when it's clear you havent found a purpose of your own and you are still clinging to the purpose that you say you hate and have given up? And you continue to cling to titles which you say you don't think will make any difference?

How can you be happy when you still haven't resolved and made your own peace about your mother, and still project that onto your wife?

How can you be happy when you still haven't resolved your birth order and have made your own peace about your relationship with your brother never being good, and you still project that onto your niece and nephew?

How can you be happy when you say you used to be racist, sexist etc etc and still don't really accept your role in this and continue to blame others for the error in your ways?

How can you be happy when your own charity in your son's name is a dogs dinner but you make out you are some sort of white saviour for racism that you say doesn't exist and a saviour to your brother's children who don't necessarily even want saving?

Harry is far from happy. So how can he be happy with Meghan? If she's happy when he's bloody miserable and has so many unresolved issues, then that's not a healthy relationship.

It will be curious to see how his kids turn out and whether being spoilt in LA works better than brought up in a stade conservative home but one that tries to instil hard work and a degree of understanding that things must be value for money. Whether any of them go off the rails will be dead interesting. More interesting than Harry's hot air.

Happy? Hard to tell. I do think they’re madly in love with each other but for different reasons, and one day, one or other of them will realise that. Or possibly it’s like Charles and Camilla - massive sexual chemistry but in H and M’s case, nothing else in common to hold them together.
I’m not sure that either of them knows how to be “happy” or what “happy” is apart from happy equals “getting what you want”.

They don’t really have anyone else if they split. People say she’ll go get herself a billionaire but I’m not really convinced any billionaires would want her.

I think he’s infatuated with her . I’m sure they love each other but I don’t think they’re happy. Who knows though. I don’t think they’ll divorce any time soon as they’ve got a point to make.

He’s totally unraveling. He is now demanding an apology to Meghan for something.

he says William told him all the alternate therapy was making him paranoid and delusional. I think most folks can see where William was coming from and would agree. He clearly is paranoid and delusional.

where is it going to stop. When will harry stop it’s getting worse and worse. He’s escalating it. It’s no longer even remotely measured. It’s Just all delusional paranoid irrational stuff.

someone has to help him. Get him proper care. And media outlets need to stop giving him a platform so we can all watch him unravel and spiral out of control.

I cannot think of two people less deserving of an apology !

Yes, and they are still smarting at being rejected.

They were so sure they were the 'stars' of the royal family and that the 'institution' needed them more than the reverse. They've never been able to get over being told that it was either abide by the rules or enjoy your life overseas. So we've had snide comments like 'service is universal' and now this desperate plea for attention.

If they'd got the chance to pick and choose the glam bits of royal life while merching their titles in California, we'd never have heard a word from them about how horrid the 'institution' is.

Harry has lost:
His father.
His brother.
Most of his relatives.
The army.
Probably his Invictus Games.
His popularity.
His country.
His royal status.
His father's funding.
Probably his inheritance.
Many of his friends.

I doubt he is happy.

She doesn't want the druggie with no aim in life.

Sadly that's what she's got. And he's a miserable, angry person with it.

Didn’t Meghan distribute joints to her guests as wedding favours at her first wedding reception? If I went to a wedding where the guests were given five joints each I would assume the bride and groom were serious Stoners.

I’ll probably get deleted for this but seems very familiar to my own previous abusive relationship. Harry increasingly getting sucked in to how awful everyone else is to Megan and being convinced that his own family are out to get him, racist/whatever, the only solution is obviously to cut them off.

Might not be the case, but certainly was the narrative used by my controlling XP

I think they are to a point but how can anyone be truly happy when they carry so much anger and resentment to their nearest family? Regardless of who is right or wrong they are clearly consumed by what they perceive as them being on the receiving end of serious harm and they are trying to seek vengeance for that now. So I don't think they're fully happy or at peace.

The OTT "love story" narrative seems fake too - anyone I know in real life who carries on like that is always faking it.

I've just finished watching the Netflix series. It all seems very fake to me.

I think she panders to him a bit. In one scene, he is typing away on his phone, she comes in heavily pregnant and starts telling him about flights to the UK (which she has researched with someone called Maddie, an aide?) and Covid testing rules. They are trying to arrange for him to get to the UK to his grandad's funeral.. When she is talking to him he doesn't look up and keeps typing on his phone. Very rude.

@Eyerollcentral Yes you are correct;

Didn’t Meghan distribute joints to her guests as wedding favours at her first wedding reception? If I went to a wedding where the guests were given five joints each I would assume the bride and groom were serious Stoners.

Yes you are correct;

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6533983/Meghan-Markle-boasted-friends-giving-marijuana-guests-wedding-Jamaica.html

I mean to me that such a wildly inappropriate thing to do? Surely some perhaps many of the guests were uncomfortable with being handed drugs at a wedding reception. I would be!

I don't actually believe this, fake news. Is there a reliable source for this?

@Eyerollcentral I mean to me that such a wildly inappropriate thing to do?

Exactly.

And maybe some of the RF knew about it and that's why Wills warned Harry off Meghan.Also her nephew is a cannabis farmer, it seems.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5616449/Meghans-nephew-cannabis-farmer-planning-new-drug-called-Markles-Sparkle.html

I mean the RF probs haven’t gotten much of a leg to stand on giving Harry has been a stoner for 20 years! I think Cannabis farming is legal in California for certain circumstances but of course it looks very odd here where that is not the case. I just genuinely found it surprising that Meghan would do this at her wedding reception as it seems so removed from her image. I really can’t imagine her smoking a phat one in a wedding dress

Hope you can read the extract from the book Revenge below. The author was told about the joints by guests at the wedding. Seems pretty credible.