Inconsistencies in Spare over hearing about Queen Mother's death

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Harry writes that he found out about the Queen Mother's passing away (in March 2002):

"At Eton, while studying, I took the call. I wish I could remember whose voice was on the other end. A courtiers I believe. I recall that is was just before Easter, the weather bright and warm, light slanting through my window, filled with vivid colours. "Your Royal Highness. The Queen Mother has died." "

News reports at the time reported he was skiing in Switzerland with Charles and William. The Queen Mother died on 30 March 2002. Easter Saturday. He wouldn't have been at school.

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Recollections may vary, indeed! I doubt very much Harry would have taken the call if he's been with his father.

Didn't the editors do any fact checking?

Endeavours to do what?

Talk about memory?

Discuss a news story?

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Not sure where the programmer is resident. No clues from the spelling.

This thread was very aggressive yesterday and anti Harry and Meghan. It was volatile and incessantly digging up inconsistencies.

Keeps talking about “your” this, that and the other.

Did you even read the thread title?

I don't think the thread is volatile, and it's predominantly about Harry

When does an inconsistency become a lie?

Lots of non sequiturs too.

The last one was very eager to assure us it was British. This may be a different programme.

Keeps talking about “your” this, that and the other.

Or just talking out of their Peach Bottom

It definitely needs to have the word "memoir" removed in any event.

You can’t dig up what isn’t there.

It's just gone 9am in California.

MN has lots of US based posters

I can’t work out whether you are cross because people are criticising the book or cross because people aren’t criticising the monarchy.

However, for clarity, Harry supports the concept of monarchy.

Harry has said it is not a racist institution. Don't you believe him?

He thinks they have unconscious bias - which incidentally, he thinks all white people have, so if you are white, you are as bad as the RF in Harry's eyes.

As to sexism. Well as the longest reigning monarchs (and extremely successful ones) in history have all been women, that's debatable. They have all been of their time, but have all been revolutionary in significant ways. The late Queen Elizabeth has ensured the throne is no longer confined to the male line. Governments come and go, this institution has managed to weather many storms, as it will no doubt weather this one. A pared down monarchy shedding the spares and lazy hangers on will probably be what comes next. Good on Charles if he does this.

volatile

whereas I just remember a really interesting discussion about memory.

All criticism is literal violence in certain circles who believe in "their truth". Objective truth is violence. Historical fact is violence. Debate is violence.

The irony, the first time I can remember anything like "their truth" coming to prominence was in Trump's early days, with his campaign manager, Kelly Ann Conway coining the phrase, "There are facts and there are alternative facts". In other words, Trump's truth trumps truth. We (lefties like me) all laughed like a drain at their truth twisting. But it didn't take long for the left to adopt the same tactics. And now, it's the load stone of the aggrieved.

If it was all about money and he was going to lie he would have made it explosive and dished on the alleged affair

Well he has lied and he is getting laid, so this is precisely why people are taking this book as confirmation that there was no affair.

This Thread is aggressively pursuing inconsistencies that are inconsequential to the actual point of the book and message

When you are purporting to set the record straight and reveal the truth, it is pretty fucking consequential if your memoir is full of lies. You might almost say the inaccuracies negate the whole point of the book.

2 dimensional charity speeches

How many dimensions should a speech have?

*paid not laid

Although he is obviously getting laid as well, giddy up 🐴

Somehow, he doesn't look to me like a man getting it on the regular. The kitchen worktops in Casa Montecito must be heaving a great sigh of relief!

2 dimensional charity speeches

How many dimensions should a speech have?

😂😂😂

lol at the fantasists thinking this is remotely likely to 'bring down the monarchy'
If anything it's strengthened their support and put Harry in an even less favourable position then when Megzit was first triggered. People then thought he was a man at the end of his rope he needed a peaceful private life. Now people think he's a devious demented bitter manchild. Or just a complete prat

I read the book yesterday (it's a very quick read), mostly because I loved J. R. Moehringer's previous book on Andre Agassi and was hopeful this one would be just as good. It isn't.

Harry repeatedly says in the book that he's writing it because he wants the historical record to be accurate. He imagines children reading it at his old school. I don't expect Harry to be cross-checking every date but it's not much to ask that his publisher do it. Lots of people would have worked on this book and no one thought to do some quick googling? They've let him down by allowing silly errors to get through.

You really thought that courtiers called the Queen "Lizzie" when the microphones weren't on? 😂

Fact checking? What facts? There are literally photos of them at Klosters skiing with Charles from that weekend.

What about Princess Anne, and Peter and Zara Philips?!!!