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Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.

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SallyWD · 09/01/2023 12:09

I'll start by saying I know there are 2 sides to every story. Also, I'm not a Megan fan. I have no idea what she's like. She might be awful. I neither like her, nor dislike her. I feel the same way about Kate.

But anyway, in light of the stories that Harry is telling, does anyone else feel that Kate (and William) comes across as rather precious and over sensitive?

First of all there's the baby brain incident. Apparently Kate forgot something or made a mistake and Megan responded by saying "Oh don't worry, it's probably the baby brain". Kate then feels insulted by this remark and says something along the lines of "You don't me well enough to comment on my hormones". William joins in by pointing his finger at Megan and saying "It's rude Megan, we don't do that here." I mean seriously?? I think the baby brain remark was completely benign. I'm sure Megan was trying to reassure Kate not to worry about her mistake. Just after having my baby I paid for my shopping and walked out leaving it in the shop. The cashier had to call me back and I apologised. She also said "Don't worry, it's the baby brain". I wasn't at all offended. I was relieved she understood! I certainly didn't think "How dare a stranger comment on my hormones". The irony of William telling Megan off for rudeness whilst pointing his finger at her. I find it far more rude to point in someone's face than to mention baby brain. If I was Megan and had received that reaction to my innocent remark I would have felt humiliated and very upset.

Then there's the lipgloss incident. Megan asked to borrow Kate's lipgloss. Kate lends it to her then gets upset that she dabs it with her finger. I understand some people don't want to share lip gloss but Kate could have said no. I don't understand what's so upsetting about Megan using her finger? If I lent someone my lip gloss I'd insist they used their finger and not their mouth. Apparently the mouth harbours more germs than your average toilet.

Then there's the report that William and Kate were uncomfortable being hugged by Megan. There are literally hundreds of photos of William and Kate hugging random strangers on the internet! Yet when Megan makes this faux pas it's offensive to them.

It seemed like William and Kate expected to be treated with great formality by Megan - as if she was one of their subjects. It also seems that Megan couldn't do anything right! Megan on the other hand perhaps expected a little more intimacy given that they were her partner's family. It doesn't sound like they did much to make her feel comfortable and welcome in to the family. Does anyone agree/disagree?

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Cherry60 · 10/01/2023 13:11

notanotheroneagain · 10/01/2023 13:06

I do think Meghan has been, and still is very jealous of Kate. I am not sure why that is so contentious or difficult for you.

Why do people insist on this.
There is no way MM knows women like Beyonce/Oprah/Michelle O / Silver T (her producer friend ) etc. and feels jealous of Kate. Her own achievements, do not allow this. I'm a pleb, and even I'm not jealous of KM. ffs

I think you're missing the point of why MM would be jealous of KM - her status in the family, her affectionate relationship with H, the fawning of the press.

I actually think there was probably jealousy on both sides

LaMarschallin · 10/01/2023 13:17

Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.

Incidents that were told to a ghost writer years later by someone who wasn't directly involved and who also told the ghost writer about bridesmaids' dress fittings when they weren't even there...
Incredibly trivial things that are still being stewed over and - in one case - caused Meghan to lie on the floor, weeping...

...and Kate is precious and over-sensitive?

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 10/01/2023 13:19

and the only one people can come up with is the wedding ceremony which has been explained over and over and over again as a cultural difference regarding usage of common terms.

What? They said that the AoC was present didn't they? What cultural difference is there between the term 'getting married' in the UK and 'getting married' in the US?

BethJ62 · 10/01/2023 13:19

notanotheroneagain · 10/01/2023 12:39

How many colours will be attributed to KM dresses. Primrose/Lemon?
It was off white.

It was lemon . Clearly .

ReneBumsWombats · 10/01/2023 13:39

notanotheroneagain · 10/01/2023 12:39

How many colours will be attributed to KM dresses. Primrose/Lemon?
It was off white.

It was yellow. Very obviously.

notanotheroneagain · 10/01/2023 13:49

Mingmoo · 10/01/2023 12:14

I think it would be very weird if the entire Royal Family had commented on racism towards Meghan individually and collectively. The first time racism was mentioned was in the statement Prince Harry insisted on BP putting out when he was dating Meghan, and I remember being very surprised as I hadn't noticed anything but anti-American sentiment (which is far stronger, in my opinion, than racism in the UK in those circles). She then definitely DID have a hard time in the press, which might well have been made even stronger by covert or overt racism, and that was made worse by snide little remarks on line and things like the picture of the chimpanzee Danny Baker tweeted when Archie was born - I think I would have a very hard time forgiving that. But the idea that William had a duty to speak up on behalf of his adult brother's adult wife every time something upset her is really odd. He wasn't king. He wasn't PoW. I still don't really know what Harry and Meghan wanted that they didn't get - vague allusions to support of some kind don't really explain how they wanted the family to react.

But the idea that William had a duty to speak up on behalf of his adult brother's adult wife every time something upset her is really odd. He wasn't king. He wasn't PoW.

And what duty did he have to speak out against footballers suffering racism?
It's the right thing to do, just as all those PMs etc. spoke out against racism. She was even part of the family.

smilesy · 10/01/2023 13:49

ReneBumsWombats · 10/01/2023 13:39

It was yellow. Very obviously.

I think it is the light outside that makes it look cream but it was indeed pale yellow See here for the non believers

BradfordGirl · 10/01/2023 13:55

smilesy · 10/01/2023 13:49

I think it is the light outside that makes it look cream but it was indeed pale yellow See here for the non believers

It was white with a tinge of yellow.

EightChalk · 10/01/2023 13:58

Serenster · 10/01/2023 09:23

If it was the other way around and Harry had pushed William, no way - that would be the ultimate ammo against him and Meghan.

But Harry has pushed people - photographers - and actually physically injured in them in past. That all gets completely ignored by his supporters too.

So what you are essentially saying is that people will minimise evidence they don’t like when it suits them. I don’t think that’s exactly revelatory, you know.

It's the degree that's extreme. I'm not a royal fan in general or a fan of Harry and Meghan, but the outpouring of vitriol is bizarre. It's like watching bullies at school, e.g. people acting as though mildly witty jokes (like Prince of Wails) are side-splittingly funny just because they're being directed at a certain person/people, to show that they are "in" with the bullies.

smilesy · 10/01/2023 14:00

BradfordGirl · 10/01/2023 13:55

It was white with a tinge of yellow.

Ffs 🙄

Serenster · 10/01/2023 14:00

And what duty did he have to speak out against footballers suffering racism?

He’s the president of the FA, that comes with the duty.

Rollingaroundinmud · 10/01/2023 14:01

Cherry60 · 10/01/2023 13:11

I think you're missing the point of why MM would be jealous of KM - her status in the family, her affectionate relationship with H, the fawning of the press.

I actually think there was probably jealousy on both sides

You sound deluded read a history book that tells the truth. The rest of the world doesn't feel the same way about the monarchy and colonialism.

HaveYouSeenNancy · 10/01/2023 14:02

Can I just ask why some posters think that the woman with the close loving relationships with her parents, siblings and in laws is cold and stand offish? Yet the woman with horrible (or no) relationships with her dad, siblings and in laws is lovely and warm? I can't get my head around the logic.

notanotheroneagain · 10/01/2023 14:02

Serenster · 10/01/2023 14:00

And what duty did he have to speak out against footballers suffering racism?

He’s the president of the FA, that comes with the duty.

And he is heir apparent of a big institution with a member taking racist vitriol. That also comes with responsibility !

PicturesOfDogs · 10/01/2023 14:04

BradfordGirl · 10/01/2023 13:55

It was white with a tinge of yellow.

It was more clearly yellow inside, I do think the outside lighting made it look creamish when she was on her own, but clearly yellow when compared with the white bridesmaids were wearing

Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.
Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.
Serenster · 10/01/2023 14:04

BradfordGirl · 10/01/2023 13:55

It was white with a tinge of yellow.

Which would make it pale yellow. 🤣

You can even see the contrast between her pale yellow jacket and her white/cream underskirt in this picture.

notanotheroneagain · 10/01/2023 14:05

It’s like on Bake-off Sometimes it’s simply unsalvageable and the best thing to do is start again. It’s also very hard to start mucking around with alterations in expensive fabrics. Seams and darts etc leave visible holes in the fabric. And often it will be faster to just start again rather than painstakingly unpicking every seam and then recutting damaged fabric.

KM is not a seamstress. A dressmaker had concluded that he could alter the dresses. That was the end of that. As far as we could see during the wedding, the kids looked lovely.

MarshaBradyo · 10/01/2023 14:05

Serenster · 10/01/2023 14:04

Which would make it pale yellow. 🤣

You can even see the contrast between her pale yellow jacket and her white/cream underskirt in this picture.

😆

Serenster · 10/01/2023 14:05

And he is heir apparent of a big institution with a member taking racist vitriol. That also comes with responsibility !

No, he was the heir of the heir at the time.

ReneBumsWombats · 10/01/2023 14:07

BradfordGirl · 10/01/2023 13:55

It was white with a tinge of yellow.

It was yellow.

BabyFour2023 · 10/01/2023 14:07

IcedPurple · 09/01/2023 12:12

No. I think Kate gives the impression of being a confident woman with clear boundaries.

Which is a good thing, isn't it?

This.

And if someone shoved their finger in my lipgloss I’d not be impressed and it’d be straight in the nearest bin. As if you even ask someone to use their lip gloss for Christ sake. She’s not 14.

PicturesOfDogs · 10/01/2023 14:09

notanotheroneagain · 10/01/2023 14:05

It’s like on Bake-off Sometimes it’s simply unsalvageable and the best thing to do is start again. It’s also very hard to start mucking around with alterations in expensive fabrics. Seams and darts etc leave visible holes in the fabric. And often it will be faster to just start again rather than painstakingly unpicking every seam and then recutting damaged fabric.

KM is not a seamstress. A dressmaker had concluded that he could alter the dresses. That was the end of that. As far as we could see during the wedding, the kids looked lovely.

Do you think he did a good job with these alterations?

I wouldn’t be happy if I’d brought that from Asda.
Its shocking.

I hadn’t actually appreciated just how bad the hen was until theirs was posted, it’s less obvious when Charlotte is in movement/Tugging the sides etc

Do you think this is well made?

Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.
smilesy · 10/01/2023 14:09

ReneBumsWombats · 10/01/2023 14:07

It was yellow.

Indeed. To paraphrase a well known saying, some people would swear yellow is white 😂

SighsTheNewWord · 10/01/2023 14:11

HaveYouSeenNancy · 10/01/2023 14:02

Can I just ask why some posters think that the woman with the close loving relationships with her parents, siblings and in laws is cold and stand offish? Yet the woman with horrible (or no) relationships with her dad, siblings and in laws is lovely and warm? I can't get my head around the logic.

One could have a close, loving relationship with close friends and family AND be cold and standoffish to others who aren't in the fold.

One could be a warm and loving person AND still have problems with family and some friends.

They aren't mutually exclusive.

Rollingaroundinmud · 10/01/2023 14:12

BabyFour2023 · 10/01/2023 14:07

This.

And if someone shoved their finger in my lipgloss I’d not be impressed and it’d be straight in the nearest bin. As if you even ask someone to use their lip gloss for Christ sake. She’s not 14.

She should have put it directly on her mouth and shared, shouldn't she. Nothing wrong with KM mouth the audacity of the woman.

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