Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.

[SallyWD]

I'll start by saying I know there are 2 sides to every story. Also, I'm not a Megan fan. I have no idea what she's like. She might be awful. I neither like her, nor dislike her. I feel the same way about Kate.

But anyway, in light of the stories that Harry is telling, does anyone else feel that Kate (and William) comes across as rather precious and over sensitive?

First of all there's the baby brain incident. Apparently Kate forgot something or made a mistake and Megan responded by saying "Oh don't worry, it's probably the baby brain". Kate then feels insulted by this remark and says something along the lines of "You don't me well enough to comment on my hormones". William joins in by pointing his finger at Megan and saying "It's rude Megan, we don't do that here." I mean seriously?? I think the baby brain remark was completely benign. I'm sure Megan was trying to reassure Kate not to worry about her mistake. Just after having my baby I paid for my shopping and walked out leaving it in the shop. The cashier had to call me back and I apologised. She also said "Don't worry, it's the baby brain". I wasn't at all offended. I was relieved she understood! I certainly didn't think "How dare a stranger comment on my hormones". The irony of William telling Megan off for rudeness whilst pointing his finger at her. I find it far more rude to point in someone's face than to mention baby brain. If I was Megan and had received that reaction to my innocent remark I would have felt humiliated and very upset.

Then there's the lipgloss incident. Megan asked to borrow Kate's lipgloss. Kate lends it to her then gets upset that she dabs it with her finger. I understand some people don't want to share lip gloss but Kate could have said no. I don't understand what's so upsetting about Megan using her finger? If I lent someone my lip gloss I'd insist they used their finger and not their mouth. Apparently the mouth harbours more germs than your average toilet.

Then there's the report that William and Kate were uncomfortable being hugged by Megan. There are literally hundreds of photos of William and Kate hugging random strangers on the internet! Yet when Megan makes this faux pas it's offensive to them.

It seemed like William and Kate expected to be treated with great formality by Megan - as if she was one of their subjects. It also seems that Megan couldn't do anything right! Megan on the other hand perhaps expected a little more intimacy given that they were her partner's family. It doesn't sound like they did much to make her feel comfortable and welcome in to the family. Does anyone agree/disagree?

Also, this is all part of a much longer narrative that Meghan has been planting for ages. There was an article she obviously planted after their farewell tour in March 2020, with the following comments attributed to a “close friend”:

““She said [the trip] has been a confirmation that they made the right choice in parting ways. There’s no warmth between the family members and she wants to raise Archie in a household that is filled with laughter and joy and lots of hugs.It’s still weird to her that no one hugs and that everyone is so uptight, especially Kate.”

Yes, why share this at all? More than 5 years later?

It seems part of a 'strategy' to paint Meghan as this warm, huggy, laid back California girl, with Kate as this uptight, cold stereotypical Brit. See also the Great Lip Gloss Incident.

They definitely don't sit right.

I think fundamentally the bodice was just too big. You can see in photos that it gapes at the neck too, and it's too wide between shoulder and sleeve. It might have been possible to redo it from the same fabric but it did need disassembled and recut, rather than just "taking in" I think

Speaking of bad bridesmaid dresses, I ended up opening an article which compared Diana, Meghan and Kate's wedding photos which then led to a picture of Sarah Chatto at Diana's wedding. Poor thing! She was 17 apparently!

Yes, and The Cut interview also included some tripe about joy, laughter and playfulness. 🤢
Meghan is trying to reinvent herself (and props to her ambition) but she has miscalculated just how much exposure the RF would give her. She flew too close to the sun this time. 🤭

I consider myself - as I raised the convo about the pink - as well as @Laiste duly told off

But am undeterred Other people were talking about the Insta-complementing of colours and it’s clear my comment was lighthearted, and Laiste was responding to me. Neither of us criticised Camilla.

It would have been an even more beautifully co-ordinated event if Camilla was in a shade of light green or even light blue.

@StatisticallyChallenged Oh my word, those are both awful.

I would love to hear the full story on why the bridesmaids’ dresses were not fitted until so close to the wedding. Based on the bit of text (if verbatim) I suspect there relevant detail missing.

Meghan was 36 when she married Harry, I think. That’s not middle-aged.

Now she’s 41, I’d say that counts as middle-aged.

Although using middle-aged as a criticism here is

I wouldn't say I was the one with issues, to be fair.
I do know jealousy and spite when I see it.

If you think what you posted isn't unhinged and filled with issues, you can't see yourself. It's not normal to have that much hatred for women, unless you're an incel. Or jealous and full of spite. All I can see in your own posts is jealousy and spite. Clearly you can't recognise yourself.

At 36 you are definitely running out of time to have children naturally if you have only just met, and the risk to the pregnancies increases year on year as you age.

I consider anything 35 plus to be entering early middle age.

"The American Psychological Association defines "middle adulthood" as beginning at 35 or 36, and many ranges do not end until 60 or 65"

She was definitely in last chance saloon territory for child bearing.

Which audience is she trying to appeal to? What use is this persona to her?

In any case, she's undermining her hipster duchess image by being petty, over sensitive and indignant. I'd love to know where they seek to position themselves, their mixture of cultures, freedom and fame loving Californian v tiff upper lip Brit seems somewhat clashing but I hope they can move forward in a positive way.

It is a strange assessment. I was complimenting another woman. I was not saying anything negative about another.

I do think Meghan has been, and still is very jealous of Kate. I am not sure why that is so contentious or difficult for you.

I think the only thing unhinged is your reply @IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 😂

Sorry, I didn't mean to be snippy. I obviously missed the mark. My apologies to you both.

I just feel sorry for Camilla this morning. 50 years of supporting Charles and waiting in the wings, seeing the bloke you love marrying someone else, unhappily married herself, being vilified for years and years and years and being held up against a beautiful, troubled woman who will be forever young in peoples' memories, finally seemingly finding a place of public acceptance in her 70s. And now this shit show. She's obviously been the other woman and certainly no angel, but god, I get a sick feeling on her behalf seeing all the criticism of her.

You were running down another woman. Your hatred is clearly personal, and you come across as very unhinged.

Yes, having seen your username and having read your own past unhinged posts about Meghan, it's clear you can't see it.

I am very middle aged, nothing against being middle aged apart from biologically we do run out of time to have babies naturally.

I was thinking about the timing of M&H’s wedding. It must have been a hard time for Kate.

She had just given birth and both her older children were part of the wedding party. She obviously not only had to sort out Charlotte’s dress but also take George to separate fittings too - his outfit was quite elaborate. Then she would also have had to take them to rehearsals. All the time juggling a new born.

I had just assumed they had a nanny who would have taken the DC to fittings but she’s clearly more hands on.

Without getting into the bunfight, I think its interesting that it’s now seems clear that Harry is deeply jealous of his older brother, and he is telling/showing us that has been the case for a long tie. I don’t think its misandrist to say that.

Why it is so contentious that a woman might be jealous of another women? Or that, in this particular case, Harry’s jealously towards his brother and by extension his sister-in-law was also picked up by his wife?

My thanks for profiling my history, not something I would do for others but if it fuels your paranoia, bit like Harry. I supposed I could say recollections may vary 😂

It looks even worse like than than when she was wearing it.
Thats awful

How ridiculous!
Have you had an early morning

It is not remotely personal, it is my observation coupled with Harry saying the women were pitted against each other, he has been very open about the rivalry and competition between them. Lets face it, Meghan could not win this war.

Yes it is all very 19 bloody 50s! But hey what can you do....we are talking about the monarchy here. I for one don't see women as fellow 'competitors' so it is very odd that Harry should describe it that way.