Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.

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I'll start by saying I know there are 2 sides to every story. Also, I'm not a Megan fan. I have no idea what she's like. She might be awful. I neither like her, nor dislike her. I feel the same way about Kate.

But anyway, in light of the stories that Harry is telling, does anyone else feel that Kate (and William) comes across as rather precious and over sensitive?

First of all there's the baby brain incident. Apparently Kate forgot something or made a mistake and Megan responded by saying "Oh don't worry, it's probably the baby brain". Kate then feels insulted by this remark and says something along the lines of "You don't me well enough to comment on my hormones". William joins in by pointing his finger at Megan and saying "It's rude Megan, we don't do that here." I mean seriously?? I think the baby brain remark was completely benign. I'm sure Megan was trying to reassure Kate not to worry about her mistake. Just after having my baby I paid for my shopping and walked out leaving it in the shop. The cashier had to call me back and I apologised. She also said "Don't worry, it's the baby brain". I wasn't at all offended. I was relieved she understood! I certainly didn't think "How dare a stranger comment on my hormones". The irony of William telling Megan off for rudeness whilst pointing his finger at her. I find it far more rude to point in someone's face than to mention baby brain. If I was Megan and had received that reaction to my innocent remark I would have felt humiliated and very upset.

Then there's the lipgloss incident. Megan asked to borrow Kate's lipgloss. Kate lends it to her then gets upset that she dabs it with her finger. I understand some people don't want to share lip gloss but Kate could have said no. I don't understand what's so upsetting about Megan using her finger? If I lent someone my lip gloss I'd insist they used their finger and not their mouth. Apparently the mouth harbours more germs than your average toilet.

Then there's the report that William and Kate were uncomfortable being hugged by Megan. There are literally hundreds of photos of William and Kate hugging random strangers on the internet! Yet when Megan makes this faux pas it's offensive to them.

It seemed like William and Kate expected to be treated with great formality by Megan - as if she was one of their subjects. It also seems that Megan couldn't do anything right! Megan on the other hand perhaps expected a little more intimacy given that they were her partner's family. It doesn't sound like they did much to make her feel comfortable and welcome in to the family. Does anyone agree/disagree?

Oh dear the batshit army is out.

Maybe someone who wants a princess as a bridesmaid?

how would M feel if K now sent her daughter out in a crappy looking dress? Something bought would have looked better.

Isn't that what appealed to William about going to the Middleton's, the warmth & informality in their home. It's simply not a thing in the rf.

This is a photo from when the wedding outfits were put on display, so not being skewed by a kid moving around or anything. I sew (a lot) and I can honestly say I would not send my kid out with a hem like that.

Unbelievable unearned entitlement

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I’m curious - how do you earn the entitlement to be able to tell the bride that the bridesmaids dressed are badly made disasters? Could Patrick or Esme do that without provoking your ire?

This wasn’t Kate’s first rodeo - she has plenty of experience of both dressing small children as wedding attendants AND what you can expect from a couture atelier. And as the mother of one of the very young bridesmaids I think it’s reasonable she gets to voice her thoughts on the outfit - and pass on her child’s response to it. I doubt Meghan would have wanted a three year old tantrum following her down the aisle at her wedding…

Were the bridesmaids dresses Givenchy too? If I was the maker of the bridesmaids dresses for such a televised wedding then I would have been there in person to see them fitted. There would be no way I would have allowed such an ill-fitting dress on Charlotte - even if I lost all profits on the wedding by paying last minutes seamstresses to remake it I would have done, and have been extremely apologetic about it. There should have been no need for the bride and bridesmaid’s mother to get into any discussion about it.

If I was Givenchy I would have sacked the person in charge of the fiasco when I saw the dresses at the wedding - because for a high-end designer to put out such ill fitting dresses is disastrous.

@LilacDots exactly, seems to be the Sussex pair wanted one rule for Meghan fuck everyone else's preferences

I'm not particularly invested in the whole matter but yours sounds like a very reasonable assessment of the situation from what I've heard.

The neckline appears off as well.

I know my way round a well made garment, and thus is not it.

Good point.

It is not a monsoon dress for an every day wedding in Whitby, it was a royal wedding beamed to hundreds of millions world wide.

Meghan was caught up with the drama with her dad, understandably and was not on the detail - nor did she understand how closely these things are watched and noted.

It’s insulting, I think.

But it’s not gaslighting.

I actually think those text messages showed Kate in a very negative light. I don’t know why the DM published them .
The tone of the messages was off. You can tell that Meghan was exasperated by the way she replied to Kate’s message. It was almost as though Kate had been difficult throughout the process
I have always felt some sympathy for Kate. It is not easy being married into that family.
However, she comes across as a bit of a pain tbh

They're not real messages, it's Harry's telling of it. The DM do not have the full conversation, or even part of it. They have what Harry has said was said

An earlier poster posted 3 photos of bridesmaid dresses, the other 2 examples looked much higher quality and better fit than the one at Meghan’s wedding. Maybe Kate was trying to tell Meghan that these dresses were not the quality she would have thought they would be

@User8646382 Oh, yes, of course. It's the evil she-devil woman manipulating the 'weak' man. It's ALWAYS the womans fault. Even your misogynist 'ambitious' trope against women shows your misogyny.

Monsoon’s quality control wouldn’t allow a hem like that either (though the purchase of the wrong size would not be their fault)

As for a 3-year crying because it was the wrong fit. Wrong fits don’t just look poor, they can also be uncomfortable to wear and a 3-year old could quite easily be upset at having to wear something uncomfortable.

Agreed, if this is the post alteration fit then the bodice probably should have been redone

This is exactly what the DM was hoping for when they plonked made up quotes in the app template 🤭
Same as the “transcript” from that exchange with the charity chief and the lady in waiting.
It really shows that people these days respond to a picture and a headline, without reading the entire thing.
Twitter made people think in sound bites.

No, it is not. In both examples, both men chose to marry the women they love. In both examples, jealous and bitter women decided to tear apart the women the men love and both women received sexist, and racist, abuse.

I haven’t been following the content but agree that it’s not reliable at all

So Kate's been proved to be a cold, uncooperative bully. Nice one Kate! Enjoy your loveless marriage to an angry manchild whilst the Sussexes live freely in the sunshine.

This is a thread based on the highly subjective notion that Kate is precious and over sensitive. But what you find really nasty is the objectively, observable fact from all the pictures that the dresses are ill fitting.

Since when did Meghan use the word Mum ? As an American it is always Mom . Meghan herself talks about her Mom .

Are you assuming the messages are accurate ?

How do people get to the place where they think this stuff