Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.

[SallyWD]

I'll start by saying I know there are 2 sides to every story. Also, I'm not a Megan fan. I have no idea what she's like. She might be awful. I neither like her, nor dislike her. I feel the same way about Kate.

But anyway, in light of the stories that Harry is telling, does anyone else feel that Kate (and William) comes across as rather precious and over sensitive?

First of all there's the baby brain incident. Apparently Kate forgot something or made a mistake and Megan responded by saying "Oh don't worry, it's probably the baby brain". Kate then feels insulted by this remark and says something along the lines of "You don't me well enough to comment on my hormones". William joins in by pointing his finger at Megan and saying "It's rude Megan, we don't do that here." I mean seriously?? I think the baby brain remark was completely benign. I'm sure Megan was trying to reassure Kate not to worry about her mistake. Just after having my baby I paid for my shopping and walked out leaving it in the shop. The cashier had to call me back and I apologised. She also said "Don't worry, it's the baby brain". I wasn't at all offended. I was relieved she understood! I certainly didn't think "How dare a stranger comment on my hormones". The irony of William telling Megan off for rudeness whilst pointing his finger at her. I find it far more rude to point in someone's face than to mention baby brain. If I was Megan and had received that reaction to my innocent remark I would have felt humiliated and very upset.

Then there's the lipgloss incident. Megan asked to borrow Kate's lipgloss. Kate lends it to her then gets upset that she dabs it with her finger. I understand some people don't want to share lip gloss but Kate could have said no. I don't understand what's so upsetting about Megan using her finger? If I lent someone my lip gloss I'd insist they used their finger and not their mouth. Apparently the mouth harbours more germs than your average toilet.

Then there's the report that William and Kate were uncomfortable being hugged by Megan. There are literally hundreds of photos of William and Kate hugging random strangers on the internet! Yet when Megan makes this faux pas it's offensive to them.

It seemed like William and Kate expected to be treated with great formality by Megan - as if she was one of their subjects. It also seems that Megan couldn't do anything right! Megan on the other hand perhaps expected a little more intimacy given that they were her partner's family. It doesn't sound like they did much to make her feel comfortable and welcome in to the family. Does anyone agree/disagree?

Was she also trying to make Kate laugh or break the ice when a few months earlier she had passed a story onto one of her Toronto social circle, the women who ran the website LaineyGossip, that snooty Kate had refused to give her a lift to the shops when she was the new royal girlfriend?

(The story was also covered in Finding Freedom too. Meghan holds grudges spectacularly, it seems)

Anyway, since I have no doubt the KP communications team would have picked up on that, Kate had every reason to hold Meghan at arm’s length until she was sure she could trust her.

Regarding baby brain: we don't know what K was supposed to have forgotten. It could just have been one of Ms games to make her think she forgot something when she didn't, and then gaslit her with baby brain. Because that's what abusers like her do.

How come Ms humanitarian and compassionate streak never apply in her personal life? It's always just at some event or award ceremony.

Bet Kate is glad she didn't go shopping with her now - can you imagine the passages in the book. We'd either have complaints because she didn't suggest anything, complaints because she did, or a detailed description of Kate's lingerie buying habits!

I should clarify the story above - it wasn’t that Meghan had asked for a lift and been turned down - the story was that she told Kate she was going shopping and where. Kate said she was going shopping too and left in the car, and didn’t offer to take Meghan with her.

This was published in February 2017. Meghan was outed officially as Harry’s girlfriend at the start of November 2016. So, it was very early days. Meghan may well have known at that stage that she intended to marry Harry, but presumably (realistically) she was just Harry’s latest girlfriend to everyone else. But Kate deserves to be globally shamed for not immediately treating her as part of her close circle…

Meghan also planted a lot of barbs in stories in People via her “friends” against Kate. This is all just more of the same.

If the text exchange was real Kate is exactly as she appears . An empty headed nightmare

A 3 year old crying the dress was too big ? Not believable in any way

If KP PR think this will help Kate they either a. haven't a clue or b.hate her too

The entire 'royal' family image is a lie. Long suspected now proven .

Get rid and the sooner the better .

A 3 year old crying the dress was too big ? Not believable in any way

Do you have children Novella? Because I find a three year old deciding they absolutely hate what they have to wear absolutely believable, having lived through this many times myself with one of my children.🤣

This is what the book says it was about:

"I told you I couldn’t remember something and you said it was my hormones.

What are you talking about?

Kate mentioned a phone call in which they’d discussed the timing of wedding rehearsals.

Meg said: Oh, yes! I remember: You couldn’t remember something, and I said it’s not a big deal, it’s baby brain. Because you’d just had a baby. It’s hormones."

If KP PR think this will help Kate

Wait, who has released the texts? I thought they were in the book? What makes you think KP PR think it will help Kate?

I have a lot of children lol and I knew someone would hone in on the least important pout

Ok scratch that - the 3 year old was traumatisedby a slightly less than perfect fit - have at it .
The texts reveal the image of the 'royals ' is false

They are a nest of vipers who seem to hate each other as much as they hate the public .
I hate the institution but all the royalists seem to want to focus on is personalities which is a pity as W ans K both lack one

@Serenster
The point remains - who bothers a bride a few days before her wedding by demanding a 3 year old dress is REMADE!

Says it all .
Unbelievable unearned entitlement
#NotMyKing

The texts don't reveal shit, because they haven't even been revealed - it's Harry's interpretation of it. There are undoubtedly bits missing (like all the rest of his conversations and stories)

And I have a kid who would totally have cried about a badly fitting dress, she was (and still is) insanely picky. If something "feels" wrong she gets upset, and a dress in fairly stiff fabric which was swimming around the torso would feel wrong to her. She'd immediately be pulling at it, trying to make it feel right. Not in any way claiming Charlotte was traumatised but if Charlotte was genuinely crying then I'd want the dress fixed too because if she was upset and acting up on the day the headlines would have been full ofhow badly behaved she was.

"I told you I couldn’t remember something and you said it was my hormones.

So this is Kate using the phrase "I told you..."

Where are the people who seem to have such a huge reaction to Meghan's "I told you"? Is Kate rude too?

Sounds like a normal phrase when recounting what you actually told someone.

Serenster

I love your posts; factual, no bullshit, just how and when it happened. Using Harry and Meghan's own words and statements to refute their supporters.

Truth hurts doesn't it?

This exactly. It's very clear the anti-Meghan brigade get upset if people make the same aspersions against Kate. Then they complain it's 'bitchy and disgusting'. The poster who said that has made some absolutely abhorrent and hateful posts about Meghan. They are the biggest hypocrites out. They get upset that about people believing 'tabloid' bs against Kate, but their whole entire opinions on Meghan is from the tabloids. The pro-Kate/anti-Meghan brigade are the biggest and worst hypocrites out, brainwashed by the perfect butter-wouldn't-melt-in-her-mouth act by Kate.

If KP PR think this will help Kate they either a. haven't a clue or b.hate her too

WTF? You think this was released by KP? Don't know if you've heard but Harry's written a book.....

Was she demanding Meghan sit down with needle and thread and do it herself?

😂

How funny you are.

I think most people would want their child's dress to fit right if it was going to be on TV all round the world.

So, you think that a “remembered “ text exchange, 5 years after a relatively insignificant event in terms of the long history of the RF, shows Kate as an “empty headed nightmare “ and is a reason why the Monarchy should be abolished, you are not really speaking from a republican point of view as you usually claim, but more as a fan of the Sussexes 🤷‍♀️

This is a vile personal attack towards someone you believe to be on "the opposite side" just because they disagree with you here. What have they said to justify this nastiness?

They get upset that about people believing 'tabloid' bs against Kate, but their whole entire opinions on Meghan is from the tabloids.

But you can switch the names round and the same applies.

At the end of the day though, there's only one couple writting books and giving interviews about the other. Who looks worse? The one's whinging about lip gloss IMO.

For a 3 year old it's not necessarily about what the dress looks like but how it feels and how she feels in it. We all know kids hate wearing garments that feel weird, too big or too small, tight, scratchy or loose. A 3 year old could have a definite "I'm not wearing that" tantrum about this.

I don't particularly love Kate at all - I can just see more holes than a sieve in these various stories.

Even taking the text situation:
M testified that she didn't have old messages due to KP cyber security (in light of the phone hacking this makes total sense to me)

In his book Harry has relayed what he says is the conversation that took place between Kate and Meghan.

So either

1. They lied and they do have text messages, or
2. this is based on their recall of a brief text exchange in the run up to their wedding (4 years ago?)

And either way the version we are getting is only what H&M are choosing to share, filtered through a lens of "my truth"

And even with that filter nothing they have here is a big deal, there's no abuse, there's no smoking gun. At most there's a slightly grumpy message from someone who doesn't want their daughter to be put in front of the world's media feeling upset and looking like a twat. I don't think Meghan's supposed response sounds especially nice either, they seem to be at about the same level of fucked off to me.

If it was the other way around and Harry had pushed William, no way - that would be the ultimate ammo against him and Meghan.

But Harry has pushed people - photographers - and actually physically injured in them in past. That all gets completely ignored by his supporters too.

So what you are essentially saying is that people will minimise evidence they don’t like when it suits them. I don’t think that’s exactly revelatory, you know.