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Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.

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SallyWD · 09/01/2023 12:09

I'll start by saying I know there are 2 sides to every story. Also, I'm not a Megan fan. I have no idea what she's like. She might be awful. I neither like her, nor dislike her. I feel the same way about Kate.

But anyway, in light of the stories that Harry is telling, does anyone else feel that Kate (and William) comes across as rather precious and over sensitive?

First of all there's the baby brain incident. Apparently Kate forgot something or made a mistake and Megan responded by saying "Oh don't worry, it's probably the baby brain". Kate then feels insulted by this remark and says something along the lines of "You don't me well enough to comment on my hormones". William joins in by pointing his finger at Megan and saying "It's rude Megan, we don't do that here." I mean seriously?? I think the baby brain remark was completely benign. I'm sure Megan was trying to reassure Kate not to worry about her mistake. Just after having my baby I paid for my shopping and walked out leaving it in the shop. The cashier had to call me back and I apologised. She also said "Don't worry, it's the baby brain". I wasn't at all offended. I was relieved she understood! I certainly didn't think "How dare a stranger comment on my hormones". The irony of William telling Megan off for rudeness whilst pointing his finger at her. I find it far more rude to point in someone's face than to mention baby brain. If I was Megan and had received that reaction to my innocent remark I would have felt humiliated and very upset.

Then there's the lipgloss incident. Megan asked to borrow Kate's lipgloss. Kate lends it to her then gets upset that she dabs it with her finger. I understand some people don't want to share lip gloss but Kate could have said no. I don't understand what's so upsetting about Megan using her finger? If I lent someone my lip gloss I'd insist they used their finger and not their mouth. Apparently the mouth harbours more germs than your average toilet.

Then there's the report that William and Kate were uncomfortable being hugged by Megan. There are literally hundreds of photos of William and Kate hugging random strangers on the internet! Yet when Megan makes this faux pas it's offensive to them.

It seemed like William and Kate expected to be treated with great formality by Megan - as if she was one of their subjects. It also seems that Megan couldn't do anything right! Megan on the other hand perhaps expected a little more intimacy given that they were her partner's family. It doesn't sound like they did much to make her feel comfortable and welcome in to the family. Does anyone agree/disagree?

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Fladdermus · 09/01/2023 16:05

SighsTheNewWord · 09/01/2023 16:00

The correct title is His/Her majesty name the number By the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of His/Her other Realms and Territories King/Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.

Whenever I read this title, all I think about is Game of Thrones.🤣

Daenerys of the House Targaryen, the First of Her Name, The Unburnt, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Queen of Meereen, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, Protector of the Realm, Lady Regent of the Seven Kingdoms, Breaker of Chains and Mother of Dragons”.

😂

And that's the shortened version.

BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers · 09/01/2023 16:06

Nanny0gg · 09/01/2023 15:04

Wow!

Don't hold back about a complete stranger, will you?

I wonder if the people who actually deal with her daily (her staff, the people in the charities and organisations she deals with) think that way?

If you can find anything in print to refute my points (which are actually documented in print by multiple sources) then we're waiting. Weird how Kate stans can't produce anything of note to prove she's nice and hard-working, unlike people who have worked in Canada with Meghan, who all says she's lovely.

Walkaround · 09/01/2023 16:07

Oh, ffs. The precious ones are the couple being paid to publicly witter on and on about it. So what if Kate and Meghan don’t like each other? Equally, I don’t care if Harry thinks his father married the Wicked Stepmother and he’s Snow White. I already knew there was absolutely nothing special about the Royal Family as human beings, except for their well documented history (also largely embarrassing, but people equally enjoy learning about the antics of the family’s ancestors, particularly the badly behaved ones), and their role in the British constitution, so I really don’t need Harry or Meghan to spell it out.

If Harry and Meghan really want the moral high ground, they should try to do something more meaningful with their new, supposedly liberated lives and wealth than selling crappy stories and trying to flog “their side” of a load of old bollocks. But I suspect their real problem is they actually have no other means of making money.

SighsTheNewWord · 09/01/2023 16:07

ReneBumsWombats · 09/01/2023 16:04

Well....where do you think George R R Martin got it from?

My husband keeps saying it's like Game of Thrones and I keep telling him no, Game of Thrones is like this! Perhaps with a bit less at stake these days than historically, but real life monarchy is full of this kind of thing and always has been.

I know.

toomuchlaundry · 09/01/2023 16:10

@BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers so we are meant to believe all the nasty things in the press are correct about Kate, but anything nasty said about Meghan is wrong and the media being fed lies.

SighsTheNewWord · 09/01/2023 16:10

Fladdermus · 09/01/2023 16:05

😂

And that's the shortened version.

🤣🤣 Honestly, it's all so comical for how juvenile it sounds in this day and age.

Marcipex · 09/01/2023 16:10

I don’t share lipgloss with anyone else.

ZaphodDent · 09/01/2023 16:10

MarshaBradyo · 09/01/2023 16:03

The younger generation part is an odd one

Fair point, my mistake.

Clash of culture point still stands though. Traditional vs progressive.

I guess I said it because Harry and Megan "feel" about ten years younger than William and Kate. To me at least.

GrouchyKiwi · 09/01/2023 16:12

I try not to form opinions about someone based on half truths and obfuscation, especially when it's from words written by someone who is making money from "his truth".

toomuchlaundry · 09/01/2023 16:12

Harry doesn't seem to have grown up

IcedPurple · 09/01/2023 16:13

ZaphodDent · 09/01/2023 16:10

Fair point, my mistake.

Clash of culture point still stands though. Traditional vs progressive.

I guess I said it because Harry and Megan "feel" about ten years younger than William and Kate. To me at least.

Kate and William seem like grown ups to me. Whereas Harry and Meghan seem to be intellectually and emotionally stuck in the adolescent stage of development.

Nowhereelsetogo90 · 09/01/2023 16:13

Hard to say. In those isolated examples I think Kate sounds like she needs help removing the stick from her arse. But maybe there’s an overall picture where Meghan is generally rude, overbearing, etc. Tbh it all sounds like very minimal family dramatics that warrant a wee moan to your pal, not a book and an interview.

Theunamedcat · 09/01/2023 16:14

Your only telling part of the story though and it's mangled so meghan says Kate has baby brain Kate didn't find it funny and meghan got upset that she didn't find it funny who is overreacting? Maybe one maybe both

Lipgloss? Just yuck but aside from the yuck Kate said nothing she gave her the lip gloss and allegedly wrinkled her nose or pulled some kind of face about meghan using her finger to put it on

None of this is newsworthy none of this really makes Kate look bad she just comes across as human and Harry as petty if this is the best he can come up with about Kate

Benjispruce4 · 09/01/2023 16:15

I agree OP, very precious.

ferntwist · 09/01/2023 16:15

I agree with every word in your post OP, and before this I loved Kate to bits and thought William seemed like an absolute sweetheart. I don’t know what to think about Kate’s reactions, it seems so over the top. I now see William quite differently. We’ve only heard Harry’s side of course, but he has shared so many similar stories it’s hard not to believe some of it is near the truth.

LondonJax · 09/01/2023 16:16

ZaphodDent · 09/01/2023 16:10

Fair point, my mistake.

Clash of culture point still stands though. Traditional vs progressive.

I guess I said it because Harry and Megan "feel" about ten years younger than William and Kate. To me at least.

Oh yes, H & M certainly seem younger...a lot younger...like secondary school age. 'He said, she did, he didn't and she rolled her eyes at M borrowing her lip gloss'

Nanny0gg · 09/01/2023 16:19

SallyWD · 09/01/2023 13:02

I agree with this. Everyone loves princess Ann. I remember when Kate and William got married there was a lip reader who said Princess Ann made some snearing remark and "commoners" marrying in to the family.

Anne married commoners both times, so not sure that's a likely story.
She also refused titles for her children.

Maybe some consistency in rumour-mongering would be good?

Dreamstate · 09/01/2023 16:21

UWhatNow · 09/01/2023 15:20

The Royal Family is not ‘most people’ though is it? They have rituals, traditions and royal orders going back hundreds of years. You can’t just rock up from California and expect that the royals will dispense those well worn protocols just for you. Harry should have pre-empted it and she should’ve had a bit more respect.

Except they keeping banging on about how they want to modernise and never do.

Honestly I think its batshit crazy that behind close doors they keep up the formalities as family. As Harry said there is the role as a royal and then there is also just being a family. Imagine if your job was 24/7 - F that!

User8646382 · 09/01/2023 16:21

Of course, you only have Harold’s word that the fallout was due to the baby brain comment. There are two sides to every story, but one side here has obviously been told not to respond. He could literally say anything and call it his ‘own truth’.

This is what happens when ambitious, narcissistic and sociopathic women get their claws into weak, vulnerable men. It’s John and Yoko all over again.

Nanny0gg · 09/01/2023 16:21

JemimaTiggywinkles · 09/01/2023 13:05

I get so annoyed at people who use being reserved as an insult. Being a bit reserved, and "stiff upper lip" was perfectly normal in the UK until very recently. I agree that talking more about feelings and being open may be better for some, but there are plenty of us (non-royals) who like a bit of formality with those we don't know or like.

And anyone outside of very close family and friends (ie people I know well and like) commenting on my hormones would be rude. There's nothing wrong with having boundaries regarding the way you are treated and spoken to. I wouldn't tolerate being sworn at, for example, but some people don't care. I'm not wrong when I point out to someone that I don't like it.

This is so true.

I am of the generation that doesn't particularly like people I don't know calling me by my first name. Nor am I huggy with those I don't know (and some that I do!)

Why is that a hanging offence?

LongLostTeacher · 09/01/2023 16:27

Why on earth is a middle aged man sharing stories about minor family stress points with the world’s media? Baby brain?! Lip gloss?! These things are not news.

I”m beginning to wonder if it’s some sort of government conspiracy to distract us all from the country going to shit.

NCOfCourse12345 · 09/01/2023 16:29

If that's the best material they can come up with to drag Kate down so far, sounds like Kate is doing pretty ok. My friend went to same boarding school as Kate said she's just reserved. Easy to mean-girl-parody excess reserve ('bottom need unclenching','lighten up').

restorativejustice · 09/01/2023 16:29

User8646382 · 09/01/2023 16:21

Of course, you only have Harold’s word that the fallout was due to the baby brain comment. There are two sides to every story, but one side here has obviously been told not to respond. He could literally say anything and call it his ‘own truth’.

This is what happens when ambitious, narcissistic and sociopathic women get their claws into weak, vulnerable men. It’s John and Yoko all over again.

That's a horribly sexist tone you have there re. women getting 'their claws' into vulnerable men.

Dreamstate · 09/01/2023 16:30

IcedPurple · 09/01/2023 16:13

Kate and William seem like grown ups to me. Whereas Harry and Meghan seem to be intellectually and emotionally stuck in the adolescent stage of development.

Kate & William seem like the older people in my company, in senior roles and stuck in their ways and refuse to change. They have outdated views and won't move with the times.

Whereas Harry and Meghan feel like the younger generation in the workplace who challenge the status quo and look to modernise and progress.

IcedPurple · 09/01/2023 16:33

Dreamstate · 09/01/2023 16:30

Kate & William seem like the older people in my company, in senior roles and stuck in their ways and refuse to change. They have outdated views and won't move with the times.

Whereas Harry and Meghan feel like the younger generation in the workplace who challenge the status quo and look to modernise and progress.

Did this 'younger generation in the workplace' publicly demand to do only the cushy parts of the job, while receiving almost all the perks, and then flounce off in a huff when their demands were of course turned down? Then incessantly whine to the whole world about the great injustice that was visited upon them? While keeping their old job titles?

So modern. So progressive.