Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.

[SallyWD]

I'll start by saying I know there are 2 sides to every story. Also, I'm not a Megan fan. I have no idea what she's like. She might be awful. I neither like her, nor dislike her. I feel the same way about Kate.

But anyway, in light of the stories that Harry is telling, does anyone else feel that Kate (and William) comes across as rather precious and over sensitive?

First of all there's the baby brain incident. Apparently Kate forgot something or made a mistake and Megan responded by saying "Oh don't worry, it's probably the baby brain". Kate then feels insulted by this remark and says something along the lines of "You don't me well enough to comment on my hormones". William joins in by pointing his finger at Megan and saying "It's rude Megan, we don't do that here." I mean seriously?? I think the baby brain remark was completely benign. I'm sure Megan was trying to reassure Kate not to worry about her mistake. Just after having my baby I paid for my shopping and walked out leaving it in the shop. The cashier had to call me back and I apologised. She also said "Don't worry, it's the baby brain". I wasn't at all offended. I was relieved she understood! I certainly didn't think "How dare a stranger comment on my hormones". The irony of William telling Megan off for rudeness whilst pointing his finger at her. I find it far more rude to point in someone's face than to mention baby brain. If I was Megan and had received that reaction to my innocent remark I would have felt humiliated and very upset.

Then there's the lipgloss incident. Megan asked to borrow Kate's lipgloss. Kate lends it to her then gets upset that she dabs it with her finger. I understand some people don't want to share lip gloss but Kate could have said no. I don't understand what's so upsetting about Megan using her finger? If I lent someone my lip gloss I'd insist they used their finger and not their mouth. Apparently the mouth harbours more germs than your average toilet.

Then there's the report that William and Kate were uncomfortable being hugged by Megan. There are literally hundreds of photos of William and Kate hugging random strangers on the internet! Yet when Megan makes this faux pas it's offensive to them.

It seemed like William and Kate expected to be treated with great formality by Megan - as if she was one of their subjects. It also seems that Megan couldn't do anything right! Megan on the other hand perhaps expected a little more intimacy given that they were her partner's family. It doesn't sound like they did much to make her feel comfortable and welcome in to the family. Does anyone agree/disagree?

One person's "warmth" is another's overfamiliarity though.

Asking to share lipgloss from someone you barely know is rammy.

They are not teens in the bogs at the school disco!

And if anyone had said I had baby brain, especially from a childless woman, I would have been tempted to slap them.

Fair enough. But if I am expected to consider Charles king then I think at the very least his family must fo so too, and that includes in private.

What should the wife of the Prince of Wales do, as a working royal, to be a worthy role model to young women? Is it different to what the Prince should do to be a role model to young men?

I think someone has an agenda. Unless you're getting paid to do this, @BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers , you really need to get some fresh air and stroke a kitten.

Also the palace refuted claims that Kate had used specific hair extensions and Botox when her face and name were being used to advertise them. It was a very specific intervention and not about whether she has Botox or not (she clearly does but it works for her). If Meghan had been used to advertise something they would have done the same.

Yes, strange, isn't it?

I've never heard anyone suggest that William is some sort of 'role model' for young men, so why should Kate be for young girls? Does anyone actually think of her or other members of the royal family in that way? I doubt it.

She wasn't always the wife of the prince of wales. She was almost 30 when she married and had spent the best part of 10 years waiting for him to marry her. It's unbelievably arcahic.

Of course she has the potential to be a role model.

I remain to be convinced that any royal is much of a role model for young women. These two included. Which isn't a criticism of either woman, because there's absolutely no reason why they should be.

There's a lot to unpack here, but ultimately I think the precious, over-sensitive people are the ones bringing this up years after it happened. Particularly with the baby brain "incident" - didn't Kate apologize and bring Meghan flowers? Most people would have drawn a line under it and forgotten about it.

Yep agree with everything you've said.

William and Kate probably didn't like what they saw as competition from Harry and Megan for public attention.

It feels like a clash of culture. William and Kate very traditional and conforming, Harry and Megan from a younger generation who question everything.

They all come across as entitled pricks. All of them.

Being called a baby brain is insulting.

Megan being ultra friendly and huggy is a bad sign imo.

It's too much too soon, and from my observations, people with this personality type, often end up falling out with people, because they don't get to know them properly first.

I also think Megan is a complete phony and I think W&K saw straight through her falseness from the start. She's a terrible 'actress.'

I’d say it’s equally precious, over sensitive and petty to take any of these interactions to heart the way Meghan has, both sides have fair points but not really anything to hold a grudge over. They seem like none events that have been blown out of proportion.

The correct title is His/Her majesty name the number By the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of His/Her other Realms and Territories King/Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.

Whenever I read this title, all I think about is Game of Thrones.🤣

Daenerys of the House Targaryen, the First of Her Name, The Unburnt, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Queen of Meereen, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, Protector of the Realm, Lady Regent of the Seven Kingdoms, Breaker of Chains and Mother of Dragons”.

It's too much too soon, and from my observations, people with this personality type, often end up falling out with people, because they don't get to know them properly first.

I agree with that. When you're 'friends' with everyone, you're friends with noone.

Wasn't it that she had an unbelievable amount of press intrusion into her private life for the entire time before she and William got engaged - years of it - and she found it impossible to do her job in central London when she was being followed all the time? She is really sincerely interested in her projects, I think, in a way that involves doing lots of homework and behind-the-scenes work - her early years project is really huge and detailed (and bigger than anything M&H have put together since leaving the royal family, experienced humanitarians that they are...)

Meghan is the oldest of them all and there are only two years between William and Harry.

The younger generation part is an odd one

Well....where do you think George R R Martin got it from?

My husband keeps saying it's like Game of Thrones and I keep telling him no, Game of Thrones is like this! Perhaps with a bit less at stake these days than historically, but real life monarchy is full of this kind of thing and always has been.

Prince William is 40. Kate is 41.

Prince Harry is 38. Meghan is 41.

They're all of the same generation! 🤦‍♂️

Definitely not buying the tripe about competition for public attention.

In terms of op, I don’t think she has a coming across as anything as it’s all stories told by someone else.

To be fair they have endured daily criticism in the press for years. You can’t blame them for being ‘over sensitive’
They obviously felt unsupported by the family and feel that Meghan wasn’t treated well.

Yeah I don't really understand that. These four individuals were all born within a 3 year period. They're now old enough that this isn't a meaningful age gap and they're all essentially the same age.

Harry is two years younger. Meghan is the oldest of the four.

Kate likely wouldn't have worked for very long anyway. DH did his PhD at ST As and he had friends who were teaching in humanities (DH is sciences) and loads of the gels coupled up and many got married and became SAHPs or corporate wives. Kate was from a very wealthy family, she was hardly going to be grafting in a way most of us would understand whether Will had married her or not.

This. So tired of people believing all the crap H and M are spinning.