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Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.

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SallyWD · 09/01/2023 12:09

I'll start by saying I know there are 2 sides to every story. Also, I'm not a Megan fan. I have no idea what she's like. She might be awful. I neither like her, nor dislike her. I feel the same way about Kate.

But anyway, in light of the stories that Harry is telling, does anyone else feel that Kate (and William) comes across as rather precious and over sensitive?

First of all there's the baby brain incident. Apparently Kate forgot something or made a mistake and Megan responded by saying "Oh don't worry, it's probably the baby brain". Kate then feels insulted by this remark and says something along the lines of "You don't me well enough to comment on my hormones". William joins in by pointing his finger at Megan and saying "It's rude Megan, we don't do that here." I mean seriously?? I think the baby brain remark was completely benign. I'm sure Megan was trying to reassure Kate not to worry about her mistake. Just after having my baby I paid for my shopping and walked out leaving it in the shop. The cashier had to call me back and I apologised. She also said "Don't worry, it's the baby brain". I wasn't at all offended. I was relieved she understood! I certainly didn't think "How dare a stranger comment on my hormones". The irony of William telling Megan off for rudeness whilst pointing his finger at her. I find it far more rude to point in someone's face than to mention baby brain. If I was Megan and had received that reaction to my innocent remark I would have felt humiliated and very upset.

Then there's the lipgloss incident. Megan asked to borrow Kate's lipgloss. Kate lends it to her then gets upset that she dabs it with her finger. I understand some people don't want to share lip gloss but Kate could have said no. I don't understand what's so upsetting about Megan using her finger? If I lent someone my lip gloss I'd insist they used their finger and not their mouth. Apparently the mouth harbours more germs than your average toilet.

Then there's the report that William and Kate were uncomfortable being hugged by Megan. There are literally hundreds of photos of William and Kate hugging random strangers on the internet! Yet when Megan makes this faux pas it's offensive to them.

It seemed like William and Kate expected to be treated with great formality by Megan - as if she was one of their subjects. It also seems that Megan couldn't do anything right! Megan on the other hand perhaps expected a little more intimacy given that they were her partner's family. It doesn't sound like they did much to make her feel comfortable and welcome in to the family. Does anyone agree/disagree?

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BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 14:54

Mummyoflittledragon · 09/01/2023 14:51

I can imagine William finds the episode of Meghan convening with his mother at the grave deeply troubling and equally the other comments surrounding Diana and Meghan. If William decided he wanted to do an interview refuting claims, he could talk about his pain on hearing an outsider claiming to talk to his dead and much beloved mummy. Don’t you think this is a far more upsetting situation than complaints about lipgloss and lack of instant hugs?

Talking to a dead parent at their grave side is normal. It is also normal if someone does not want to do this.
I talk to my dead parents at their grave.

DillDanding · 09/01/2023 14:54

Perhaps Kate didn’t warm to Meghan as she felt she came up short if they were compared.

Meghan had achieved career success, was impassioned, confident and very beautiful. I can understand having your nose put out of joint, even if it’s childish.

Coxspurplepippin · 09/01/2023 14:56

BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 14:54

Talking to a dead parent at their grave side is normal. It is also normal if someone does not want to do this.
I talk to my dead parents at their grave.

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I talk to DDad fairly often (in my head). To my dead MIL, not so much Grin

stillavid · 09/01/2023 14:59

They are both beautiful women so I don't really understand why everyone is so keen to make them the new Alexis and Krystal! Is Harry Blake Carrington?

I mean it is entertaining in a 'you just can't look away' type fashion but I do think Harry will regret this in the long term.

Fladdermus · 09/01/2023 14:59

BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 14:46

@UWhatNow I think most people would not expect that level of formality behind closed doors with family. It is pretty wierd.

I don't think it's weird to put in a bit a effort the first time you meet your inlaws. Surely you want to make a good a good impression, not look like you couldn't be arsed.

Ricco12 · 09/01/2023 14:59

If it's true ... then yes I agree. Absolutely ridiculous to behave like that over those examples. If Kate behaved like that she is being a twat.

But only they know the truth. Confused

Mummyoflittledragon · 09/01/2023 14:59

BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 14:54

Talking to a dead parent at their grave side is normal. It is also normal if someone does not want to do this.
I talk to my dead parents at their grave.

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Diana was not Meghan’s mother. I said Meghan. Not Harry. Speaking as someone, whose parent died a child, I find it incredibly distasteful to publicise this. If this happened to me, I would feel as though the outsider were taking something incredibly special and personal away.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 09/01/2023 15:02

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 09/01/2023 14:03

It’s the assumption that someone can force familiarity on a woman. We’re not ok with a man doing it, why should we accept it from a woman?

Meghan overstepped the boundaries, why she did that only she knows, but she should have accepted another woman’s boundaries.

This x100.

Loudhousefun · 09/01/2023 15:02

SallyWD · 09/01/2023 12:09

I'll start by saying I know there are 2 sides to every story. Also, I'm not a Megan fan. I have no idea what she's like. She might be awful. I neither like her, nor dislike her. I feel the same way about Kate.

But anyway, in light of the stories that Harry is telling, does anyone else feel that Kate (and William) comes across as rather precious and over sensitive?

First of all there's the baby brain incident. Apparently Kate forgot something or made a mistake and Megan responded by saying "Oh don't worry, it's probably the baby brain". Kate then feels insulted by this remark and says something along the lines of "You don't me well enough to comment on my hormones". William joins in by pointing his finger at Megan and saying "It's rude Megan, we don't do that here." I mean seriously?? I think the baby brain remark was completely benign. I'm sure Megan was trying to reassure Kate not to worry about her mistake. Just after having my baby I paid for my shopping and walked out leaving it in the shop. The cashier had to call me back and I apologised. She also said "Don't worry, it's the baby brain". I wasn't at all offended. I was relieved she understood! I certainly didn't think "How dare a stranger comment on my hormones". The irony of William telling Megan off for rudeness whilst pointing his finger at her. I find it far more rude to point in someone's face than to mention baby brain. If I was Megan and had received that reaction to my innocent remark I would have felt humiliated and very upset.

Then there's the lipgloss incident. Megan asked to borrow Kate's lipgloss. Kate lends it to her then gets upset that she dabs it with her finger. I understand some people don't want to share lip gloss but Kate could have said no. I don't understand what's so upsetting about Megan using her finger? If I lent someone my lip gloss I'd insist they used their finger and not their mouth. Apparently the mouth harbours more germs than your average toilet.

Then there's the report that William and Kate were uncomfortable being hugged by Megan. There are literally hundreds of photos of William and Kate hugging random strangers on the internet! Yet when Megan makes this faux pas it's offensive to them.

It seemed like William and Kate expected to be treated with great formality by Megan - as if she was one of their subjects. It also seems that Megan couldn't do anything right! Megan on the other hand perhaps expected a little more intimacy given that they were her partner's family. It doesn't sound like they did much to make her feel comfortable and welcome in to the family. Does anyone agree/disagree?

Yes I agree with all of this but as the founder of mumsnet stated herself that mumsnetters are deranged when it comes to Meghan you will find most will disagree. It is so bloody obvious that both Meghan and Harry were used as fodder for the press by other members of that despicable family.

Shelefttheweb · 09/01/2023 15:02

BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 14:46

@UWhatNow I think most people would not expect that level of formality behind closed doors with family. It is pretty wierd.

Most people are not the royal family. It is not just a family it is an institution/firm/business where the hierarchy is governed by law as are roles within it. This isn’t just theoretical, the running of the firm, the allocation of duties, and responsibilities are prescribed. Not just who attends what function but also the running of royal estates and allocation of funds to support hangers on (like Harry). And this is done because they are King and heirs - you might not like that but within the family if they don’t accept the monarch‘s authority it then they are refuting their whole existence.

DaisyChristina · 09/01/2023 15:02

No, I don't.

Lampzade · 09/01/2023 15:02

I have had situations whereby different individuals have made similar comments to me. The way I react to the comments will depend on whether or not I like the individual.
If I dislike them a perfectly innocent comment/ joke would offend me.
If I like them, then that same innocent comment /joke wouldn’t bother me.

Nanny0gg · 09/01/2023 15:04

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Wow!

Don't hold back about a complete stranger, will you?

I wonder if the people who actually deal with her daily (her staff, the people in the charities and organisations she deals with) think that way?

MrsFinkelstein · 09/01/2023 15:05

BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 14:54

Talking to a dead parent at their grave side is normal. It is also normal if someone does not want to do this.
I talk to my dead parents at their grave.

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The point is that it's William's dead mother.
Meghan had never met her.
Meghans mother is still very much alive.

Prescottdanni123 · 09/01/2023 15:06

I think it depends on what context it was said in. If it was said in a fake nice or patronising way then I can understand why it may have irked her. It also depends on how the relationship was progressing. If it was said spidery and Meghan had made a habit of making snide comments in the past then again, it was maybe justified.

Farmageddon · 09/01/2023 15:07

BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 14:54

Talking to a dead parent at their grave side is normal. It is also normal if someone does not want to do this.
I talk to my dead parents at their grave.

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A dead parent, fair enough.
A dead mother-in-law who she has never even met? C'mon...

StepAwayFromGoogling · 09/01/2023 15:09

Surely the main issue is that Meghan was trying to force a level of familiarity on Kate that wasn't yet there. From my good friends I'd take hugs, some banter about baby brain and - maybe - lending lipgloss. From my husband's brother's new girlfriend who I don't really know at all? Probably not.

ferneytorro · 09/01/2023 15:09

BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 14:46

@UWhatNow I think most people would not expect that level of formality behind closed doors with family. It is pretty wierd.

Really. I’ve a friend who I’ve known probably 15 years who is bringing his friend to a weekend away later this year and I don’t know this friend. I will be introduced/introduce myself to my friends friend and will put my hand out to shake. Is that just not normal? You don’t hug people you don’t really know. Should I expect this new chap to be bitching behind my back at how formal I am.

Nanny0gg · 09/01/2023 15:09

CointreauVersial · 09/01/2023 12:53

I just think they have nothing in common with each other, and don't really get on. End of. I could say the same about my sister-in-law.

It doesn't need to be whipped into such a "drama".

Yes. How friendly was Anne with Fergie or Diana? Not at all I shouldn't think.

Or either of her husbands with their brothers-in-law

It's lovely if you do get on, but understandable if you don't

rumship · 09/01/2023 15:10

No why OP can you please show us all the direct quotes from Kates own mouth?

Interviews, recordings would all be nice to back up your tales.

NortieTortie · 09/01/2023 15:10

The baby brain thing tickles me. What a weird thing to get worked up about. And William's remark too. Christ.

Make them all stock shelves for a living like the rest of us.

DownNative · 09/01/2023 15:11

UWhatNow · 09/01/2023 14:44

I think people have misunderstood the hug thing.

It wasn’t about the hug. Meghan expected to hug and greet Kate in ripped jeans and bare feet without the royal formality because somehow her dingbat soul-mate Harry had neglected to inform her that there is a protocol - even behind closed doors - when meeting senior royals.

Harry would’ve been well aware of this. And it isn’t about Kate being precious - or a ‘commoner’ - she is still the future Queen of England and as such, especially on a first meeting, of someone looking to join the RF, should be respected as such.

We have had a Queen of England for 300 years or so. There is n9 such thing as a future Queen of England.

There is only a King/Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Check out the Royal Titles Act.

goodbyestranger · 09/01/2023 15:11

BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers that's charitable :) For 'serious' read 'humourless' and the rest seems fair.

Lampzade · 09/01/2023 15:13

DownNative · 09/01/2023 14:33

Thank God the Royal Family aren't falling for Harry's clear and obvious provocations! He's coming out of this looking really bad, tone deaf and completely ungrateful for all the advantages his privileged life afforded him.

He needs to shut up and go away now because he's got nothing to offer other than make unsubstantiated allegations, insinuations and moaning about his family. Certainly has no talent of his own the world wants to see.

As the New York Post dubbed him.....Harry, Prince Of Wails. Quite.

I don’t think any of them are coming out looking great tbh .

FortheBeautyoftheEarth · 09/01/2023 15:14

DillDanding · 09/01/2023 14:54

Perhaps Kate didn’t warm to Meghan as she felt she came up short if they were compared.

Meghan had achieved career success, was impassioned, confident and very beautiful. I can understand having your nose put out of joint, even if it’s childish.

The idea that Kate hasn't done much is one of the false media narratives. She worked prior to being a royal and she has been involved in lots of her own passion projects - the Big 5 early years study, Place 2B and Shout collaboration with William. She doesn't announce herself loudly but if you actually listen to her when she is interviewed or talking generally about the subjects she is interested in such as early childhood development, addiction, mental health, photography, sports, she is a very interesting woman with a lot to say. It comes across to me that she is just humble enough to listen and learn and let experts speak. (And no- I'm not dissing Meghan) I'm just saying it's flawed to assume Kate would be 'threatened' by Meghan. They have completely different approaches.