Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.

[SallyWD]

I'll start by saying I know there are 2 sides to every story. Also, I'm not a Megan fan. I have no idea what she's like. She might be awful. I neither like her, nor dislike her. I feel the same way about Kate.

But anyway, in light of the stories that Harry is telling, does anyone else feel that Kate (and William) comes across as rather precious and over sensitive?

First of all there's the baby brain incident. Apparently Kate forgot something or made a mistake and Megan responded by saying "Oh don't worry, it's probably the baby brain". Kate then feels insulted by this remark and says something along the lines of "You don't me well enough to comment on my hormones". William joins in by pointing his finger at Megan and saying "It's rude Megan, we don't do that here." I mean seriously?? I think the baby brain remark was completely benign. I'm sure Megan was trying to reassure Kate not to worry about her mistake. Just after having my baby I paid for my shopping and walked out leaving it in the shop. The cashier had to call me back and I apologised. She also said "Don't worry, it's the baby brain". I wasn't at all offended. I was relieved she understood! I certainly didn't think "How dare a stranger comment on my hormones". The irony of William telling Megan off for rudeness whilst pointing his finger at her. I find it far more rude to point in someone's face than to mention baby brain. If I was Megan and had received that reaction to my innocent remark I would have felt humiliated and very upset.

Then there's the lipgloss incident. Megan asked to borrow Kate's lipgloss. Kate lends it to her then gets upset that she dabs it with her finger. I understand some people don't want to share lip gloss but Kate could have said no. I don't understand what's so upsetting about Megan using her finger? If I lent someone my lip gloss I'd insist they used their finger and not their mouth. Apparently the mouth harbours more germs than your average toilet.

Then there's the report that William and Kate were uncomfortable being hugged by Megan. There are literally hundreds of photos of William and Kate hugging random strangers on the internet! Yet when Megan makes this faux pas it's offensive to them.

It seemed like William and Kate expected to be treated with great formality by Megan - as if she was one of their subjects. It also seems that Megan couldn't do anything right! Megan on the other hand perhaps expected a little more intimacy given that they were her partner's family. It doesn't sound like they did much to make her feel comfortable and welcome in to the family. Does anyone agree/disagree?

Do you say the same to posters who write disgusting vile comments about Meghan? Or is it just because its Kate?

Can someone please give examples of what stories were leaked ?

The Palace took exactly the same action to protect Meghan relation to a business claiming she used their diet pills as they did to a business claiming that Kate used its Botox. They issued a statement denying it and said not to pretend the Duchesses were endorsing those businesses. So you are dead wrong there.

www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a28675767/meghan-markle-buckingham-palace-diet-pill-denial/

(you also have misunderstood this event. Kate never wanted the suggestion she used Botox to be denied, it’s the fact a clinic was falsely claiming she was their customer that was the issue)

Did Harry give one solid example of what we heard that was LEAKED

'As always, we are told to respect other people's cultures, but not respect our own' What does this even mean? And where's the restraint in declaring someone as rude and wagging a finger in their face?
The crazy shit show that is Brexit and the bitter divisions it has led to, the London riots, hell even the response to Diana's death show restraint is not exactly a strongly manifest ideal in Britain.

All of them are a disgusting bunch of leeches.

He hasn't got much to write about if such trivia is included in a book. Talk about scratching around for grievances. And it's just one side of the story. I doubt Kate could care less about the lip gloss - it's not like it's her only one.

It occurred to me after reading this story why Meghan did not include as an 'Archetype' in her podcast 'the hormonal woman'. One of the more obvious and annoying stereotypes women face, whether it is PMT, Pregnancy or menopause.

As a child less woman I wouldn't dream of joking of 'baby brain' to any of my pregnant friends or those with new borns. It is incredibly patronising.

This may be the view of a very old woman, me, but surely if you're meeting members of your partner's family for the first time there is a certain amount of restraint that over time will change. If these petty incidents had happened between, say, Kate and Zara or Beatrice for example, they would have been different, they have a relationship of a longer standing, similarly one can make iffy remarks between friends that wouldn't be appropriate with a stranger. The impression I get from all Harry ramblings is that they, H amd M, expected everyone to fall over themselves and be totally starstruck with Meghan.

Entitled not to be the subject of sexist remarks, entitled not to have her personal boundaries transgressed, entitled not to share her make up. And none of this is in the public domain at her behest, either, so I’ll add entitled not to be slagged off in public by her jealous, paranoid, shit stirring in laws.

Obviously I have no evidence but I think Meghan misunderstood the rules of a heriditary monarchy. It doesn’t matter how much better or hardworking or popular she is, she will never get the star billing and, what's probably worse, if she's too good she'll be told off for upstaging the leading lady. having thought she had auditioned for Princess Diana she's been cast as Sophie Wessex with no chance of promotion or future storylines being written to suit her. this sort of understanding may come naturally to a Brit but there's no reason why Meghan should ever have thought about it before.

It's widely known she doesn't get along with the cousins - it's been written in articles over and over again pre-meghan and the articles about her driving H's girlfriends aways.
Who by? The same press that Harry said lie - on one hand - and also never protect him and his family in the same way they do William’s?

Absolute cakery.

If there’s one thing everyone should be able to agree on, it’s question everything you read in the press!

I think people have misunderstood the hug thing.

It wasn’t about the hug. Meghan expected to hug and greet Kate in ripped jeans and bare feet without the royal formality because somehow her dingbat soul-mate Harry had neglected to inform her that there is a protocol - even behind closed doors - when meeting senior royals.

Harry would’ve been well aware of this. And it isn’t about Kate being precious - or a ‘commoner’ - she is still the future Queen of England and as such, especially on a first meeting, of someone looking to join the RF, should be respected as such.

@Dreamstate - tbh I have rarely read previous threads but since all this Harry stuff started I have been browsing them.

I would be just as critical of posters making personal criticisms of anyone they don't know.

I must admit that I find the behaviour of H&M unfathomable in terms of releasing such personal and intimate details which are damaging to others. I can't see them in a favourable light after that.

However I find the personal and spiteful remarks about people that most of us have never spent any time with very unpalatable.

I don’t find the baby brain comment insulting at all but then I’m not particularly sensitive about things like that.

@UWhatNow I think most people would not expect that level of formality behind closed doors with family. It is pretty wierd.

I recently spent time with friends of almost 50 years standing, no way would I share lipstick etc with them and I don't think they would ask!

@Dreamstate - I suppose what I mean is that, for example, I have Dutch relatives through marriage and when we meet you kiss three times on the cheeks. In Britain this is not a cultural norm. Maybe it's an age thing, but by and large I don't think many people (of my acquaintance) would hug someone on a first meeting. To me this is culturally appropriate and not "uptight".

People criticise Meghan so much but I’d rather her to smug Katie any day.

I can imagine William finds the episode of Meghan convening with his mother at the grave deeply troubling and equally the other comments surrounding Diana and Meghan. If William decided he wanted to do an interview refuting claims, he could talk about his pain on hearing an outsider claiming to talk to his dead and much beloved mummy. Don’t you think this is a far more upsetting situation than complaints about lipgloss and lack of instant hugs?

ridiculous
It doesn't matter whether you're annoyed or not because of the lipgloss or baby brain or etc.
It's more wrong to say openly about what happened to the public and how they might have felt.

As the New York Post dubbed him.....Harry, Prince Of Wails.

😂

I think most people would not expect that level of formality behind closed doors with family. It is pretty wierd.
For many of us, yes. But some families are like that. It’s madness that Harry didn’t brief his wife that meeting his grandma in private was just as formal as if they were in public.
If anyone’s thrown Meghan to the wolves like this, it’s him.
The common denominator is always Harry.
It’s appalling to rip Meghan and Kate apart. It’s all on him.

Same here. Also its a fact right, hormones affect our mood and in pregnancy they affect our brain too. Its not exactly insulting its just a fact that happens.

My hormones affect my mood every month, I have a day I just get irritated over the slightest thing and I know it, so on that day I either avoid people as much as possible or if I snap I just apologise fairly quickly and say I was being irrational cos of my hormones. Its not a big deal. It is what it is.

I don't think Kate comes across badly - reserved possibly but hard to say with what's been said.

Not sure about Megan I still ink a lot was a culture clash and possibly her back being up more from surrounding people remarks possibly - again hard to know.

I do think she and Kate are very different people with very different backgrounds and a lot of the issues petty as they are seem to stem from that but also they are getting hit with fall out from brother's relationship tensions.

Harry comes across as very fucking precious and over-sensitive verging on spiteful.