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Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.

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SallyWD · 09/01/2023 12:09

I'll start by saying I know there are 2 sides to every story. Also, I'm not a Megan fan. I have no idea what she's like. She might be awful. I neither like her, nor dislike her. I feel the same way about Kate.

But anyway, in light of the stories that Harry is telling, does anyone else feel that Kate (and William) comes across as rather precious and over sensitive?

First of all there's the baby brain incident. Apparently Kate forgot something or made a mistake and Megan responded by saying "Oh don't worry, it's probably the baby brain". Kate then feels insulted by this remark and says something along the lines of "You don't me well enough to comment on my hormones". William joins in by pointing his finger at Megan and saying "It's rude Megan, we don't do that here." I mean seriously?? I think the baby brain remark was completely benign. I'm sure Megan was trying to reassure Kate not to worry about her mistake. Just after having my baby I paid for my shopping and walked out leaving it in the shop. The cashier had to call me back and I apologised. She also said "Don't worry, it's the baby brain". I wasn't at all offended. I was relieved she understood! I certainly didn't think "How dare a stranger comment on my hormones". The irony of William telling Megan off for rudeness whilst pointing his finger at her. I find it far more rude to point in someone's face than to mention baby brain. If I was Megan and had received that reaction to my innocent remark I would have felt humiliated and very upset.

Then there's the lipgloss incident. Megan asked to borrow Kate's lipgloss. Kate lends it to her then gets upset that she dabs it with her finger. I understand some people don't want to share lip gloss but Kate could have said no. I don't understand what's so upsetting about Megan using her finger? If I lent someone my lip gloss I'd insist they used their finger and not their mouth. Apparently the mouth harbours more germs than your average toilet.

Then there's the report that William and Kate were uncomfortable being hugged by Megan. There are literally hundreds of photos of William and Kate hugging random strangers on the internet! Yet when Megan makes this faux pas it's offensive to them.

It seemed like William and Kate expected to be treated with great formality by Megan - as if she was one of their subjects. It also seems that Megan couldn't do anything right! Megan on the other hand perhaps expected a little more intimacy given that they were her partner's family. It doesn't sound like they did much to make her feel comfortable and welcome in to the family. Does anyone agree/disagree?

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Coucous · 09/01/2023 14:18

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JemimaTiggywinkles · 09/01/2023 14:18

Secondly, I am a hugger. I come from a family of huggers on my mum's side. But my dad, when he first dated my mum, and my DH, when we began dating, both subtly said 'my family isn't really into hugs so take it steady'. Which we did as you always err on the side of caution until you get to know the other person. Well, most of us do...

Exactly. If someone doesn't want to be touched they don't have to be. I sometimes accept being hugged when it is clear that it is a one off but prefer (by far) to draw boundaries with people I'm going to see again so that I don't spend my whole life uncomfortable. I'm obviously projecting, but can quite clearly see that Kate may well accept hugs are part of her role on engagements but don't want to maintain that pretence behind closed doors.

PurpleButterflyWings · 09/01/2023 14:18
Hmm
Jaxhog · 09/01/2023 14:19

BethJ62 · 09/01/2023 12:12

And we all believe everything Harry says don’t we ?

This. These are the ramblings of a sad and bitter man. We shouldn't assume everything he says is true, and certainly not base our opinion of anyone on the contents of his book.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 09/01/2023 14:20

I forgot to add that it has been said K does not get along with the cousins - Bea and Eugenie - whereas they introduced Meg to H and they all seem to get on very well. Perhaps that's an issue as well. A point of contention, perhaps jealousy etc.
It's also been said that K doesn't

doesn't what? Or did you post too soon in your eagerness to bitch?

Lunde · 09/01/2023 14:21

No I don't

The "baby brain" comment is very rude and an odd choice for someone who claims to be a feminist to dismiss another woman as "over hormonal" - you can just imagine the outrage if someone had invalidated Meghan's opinion in this way around the time of her children's' births

Don't defend the indefensible

autienotnaughty · 09/01/2023 14:24

Kat sounds like what she is. Entitled.

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friendlycat · 09/01/2023 14:25

skilpadde · 09/01/2023 13:37

Kate didn't wear cream, she wore a lemon outfit. All the women were wearing tonally-similar outfits, which helped make the wedding photos in the green drawing room look lovely.

Would you have preferred if Kate wore fuchsia or cobalt blue?

Absolutely. She’s wearing a pale yellow outfit that she had worn before. It all blends well with the outfits of others.

Genevieva · 09/01/2023 14:28

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SallyWD · 09/01/2023 12:35

In the past black people were often referred to as "uppity". There's this whole thing from the deep south where people talked about "uppity insert N word". That's why it's offensive to use it against a biracial person.

I thought it was a pretty common insult here for someone who was ‘above their station’

Never heard it have a racist connection. I don’t believe the Deep South usage is common here

Suppose I similar to how cunt in the US is such a deeply misogynistic term, while it’s not here.
Not a nice word, still, but not the same connotation

notanotheroneagain · 09/01/2023 14:31

SallyWD · 09/01/2023 12:09

I'll start by saying I know there are 2 sides to every story. Also, I'm not a Megan fan. I have no idea what she's like. She might be awful. I neither like her, nor dislike her. I feel the same way about Kate.

But anyway, in light of the stories that Harry is telling, does anyone else feel that Kate (and William) comes across as rather precious and over sensitive?

First of all there's the baby brain incident. Apparently Kate forgot something or made a mistake and Megan responded by saying "Oh don't worry, it's probably the baby brain". Kate then feels insulted by this remark and says something along the lines of "You don't me well enough to comment on my hormones". William joins in by pointing his finger at Megan and saying "It's rude Megan, we don't do that here." I mean seriously?? I think the baby brain remark was completely benign. I'm sure Megan was trying to reassure Kate not to worry about her mistake. Just after having my baby I paid for my shopping and walked out leaving it in the shop. The cashier had to call me back and I apologised. She also said "Don't worry, it's the baby brain". I wasn't at all offended. I was relieved she understood! I certainly didn't think "How dare a stranger comment on my hormones". The irony of William telling Megan off for rudeness whilst pointing his finger at her. I find it far more rude to point in someone's face than to mention baby brain. If I was Megan and had received that reaction to my innocent remark I would have felt humiliated and very upset.

Then there's the lipgloss incident. Megan asked to borrow Kate's lipgloss. Kate lends it to her then gets upset that she dabs it with her finger. I understand some people don't want to share lip gloss but Kate could have said no. I don't understand what's so upsetting about Megan using her finger? If I lent someone my lip gloss I'd insist they used their finger and not their mouth. Apparently the mouth harbours more germs than your average toilet.

Then there's the report that William and Kate were uncomfortable being hugged by Megan. There are literally hundreds of photos of William and Kate hugging random strangers on the internet! Yet when Megan makes this faux pas it's offensive to them.

It seemed like William and Kate expected to be treated with great formality by Megan - as if she was one of their subjects. It also seems that Megan couldn't do anything right! Megan on the other hand perhaps expected a little more intimacy given that they were her partner's family. It doesn't sound like they did much to make her feel comfortable and welcome in to the family. Does anyone agree/disagree?

It's the definition of 'Pushing your weight around' or ' pulling rank' .

SimonandGarfunkel · 09/01/2023 14:32

I would like to congratulate @BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers and @Coucous - you both must be so proud of yourselves with your disgusting and bitchy comments about Kate.

How can Justine say that the anti Meghan posters are deranged whilst allowing such vitriol.

I sincerely hope that you don't have daughters if that is how you choose to write about someone that you have never met, let alone been friends with.

I would also like to say that since when is not wanting to hug a stranger considered "uptight". As always, we are told to respect other people's cultures, but not respect our own. I am personally more than happy to exercise British restraint and will choose to hug when I am good and ready. This does not make me "uptight" - whatever that means.

BunnyFantastic · 09/01/2023 14:32

It's because K saw Meghan as a friend of the sisters - Bea + E - who she doesn't get a long with. She would never have been friendly to M under those circumstances. Plus the added jealousy
This absolutely lunacy. We’ve zero evidence of any of this.
Can the OP, and many other posters on this thread not see that they are just as guilty of what H is accusing other people of?
Some posters are making assumptions and stereotyping Kate just as much as some people do Meghan.
Not to mention this is setting up women against each other.
So what if one is more reserved, so what if the other is a hugger. Doesn’t mean one is jealous or the other is nasty.
They don’t have to be friends just because they’re married to brothers.

When Justine said posters about H&M were ‘deranged’ I doubt she was only referring those who are critical of H&M.

Coucous · 09/01/2023 14:33

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PicturesOfDogs · 09/01/2023 14:33

BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers · 09/01/2023 12:39

It's true, though. It's in print. Multiple people who know her have said these things. Her own cousin came out and said she was nice enough but dim and unengaged with things that didn't concern her. Someone admitted she used to copy their essays at school and at other times not deign to speak with them. The queen called her lazy. Camilla didn't like her at the start.

To be fair, we probably shouldn’t go down this route, of what people who know them say.

Didn't Megan's brother say she wasn’t safe to be around children or something.

Probably best to steer clear of this who says what about people.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 09/01/2023 14:33

Suppose I similar to how cunt in the US is such a deeply misogynistic term, while it’s not here.

Actually I consider 'cunt' to be an offensive misogynistic word. I don't know anyone in real life who uses it but it seems pretty common on here.

DownNative · 09/01/2023 14:33

Thank God the Royal Family aren't falling for Harry's clear and obvious provocations! He's coming out of this looking really bad, tone deaf and completely ungrateful for all the advantages his privileged life afforded him.

He needs to shut up and go away now because he's got nothing to offer other than make unsubstantiated allegations, insinuations and moaning about his family. Certainly has no talent of his own the world wants to see.

As the New York Post dubbed him.....Harry, Prince Of Wails. Quite.

Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.
Mummyoflittledragon · 09/01/2023 14:33

PicturesOfDogs · 09/01/2023 14:29

I thought it was a pretty common insult here for someone who was ‘above their station’

Never heard it have a racist connection. I don’t believe the Deep South usage is common here

Suppose I similar to how cunt in the US is such a deeply misogynistic term, while it’s not here.
Not a nice word, still, but not the same connotation

I didn’t know this was considered a racial slur either until a couple of years ago. Unfortunately we in the U.K. are expected to just ‘know’ as though we have a shared heritage with the US. We, here, have Mr Uppity from the Mr Men. It isn’t a word I would use either as it seems to be used in a class driven way (as you say ‘above their station’) and therefore distasteful.

Facecream · 09/01/2023 14:34

I agree IP: provided it’s an honest account. Don’t have any particular views on whether it is honest or not because I don’t care or pay enough attention but it sounds like they just didn’t like her and now none of them like each other.

PinkTonic · 09/01/2023 14:34

BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers · 09/01/2023 13:28

You are wilfully misunderstanding this. Nothing wrong with plastic surgery. Everything wrong with sending out palace statements to refute that she had it, whilst same palace did exactly zero to protect Meghan.

You are the one who is wilfully misrepresenting what took place. The palace didn’t refute anything on behalf of Catherine. They responded to a clinic using her picture as an advertisement.

Coucous · 09/01/2023 14:34

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Pigeonpair1 · 09/01/2023 14:35

I have a suspicion that MM has always felt superior to Kate as she had "a successful acting career" before marriage whereas Kate did nothing of note (I don't think). If Kate was touchy about the comment, perhaps it was because she felt MM looked down on her......

Thistooshallpsss · 09/01/2023 14:36

Surely the point is that none of this belongs in the public domain. And if it’s being done by Harry as a form of payback or revenge that’s pretty low and probably counterproductive

WisteriaLodge · 09/01/2023 14:37

You think Kate is precious? I think Meghan is the one with the problem if she's still stewing over this 5 years later, and just for info, for someone you barely know to say you have "baby brain" is insulting, if my brothers girlfriend of 5 minutes said this to my face I'd be raging.

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