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Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.

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SallyWD · 09/01/2023 12:09

I'll start by saying I know there are 2 sides to every story. Also, I'm not a Megan fan. I have no idea what she's like. She might be awful. I neither like her, nor dislike her. I feel the same way about Kate.

But anyway, in light of the stories that Harry is telling, does anyone else feel that Kate (and William) comes across as rather precious and over sensitive?

First of all there's the baby brain incident. Apparently Kate forgot something or made a mistake and Megan responded by saying "Oh don't worry, it's probably the baby brain". Kate then feels insulted by this remark and says something along the lines of "You don't me well enough to comment on my hormones". William joins in by pointing his finger at Megan and saying "It's rude Megan, we don't do that here." I mean seriously?? I think the baby brain remark was completely benign. I'm sure Megan was trying to reassure Kate not to worry about her mistake. Just after having my baby I paid for my shopping and walked out leaving it in the shop. The cashier had to call me back and I apologised. She also said "Don't worry, it's the baby brain". I wasn't at all offended. I was relieved she understood! I certainly didn't think "How dare a stranger comment on my hormones". The irony of William telling Megan off for rudeness whilst pointing his finger at her. I find it far more rude to point in someone's face than to mention baby brain. If I was Megan and had received that reaction to my innocent remark I would have felt humiliated and very upset.

Then there's the lipgloss incident. Megan asked to borrow Kate's lipgloss. Kate lends it to her then gets upset that she dabs it with her finger. I understand some people don't want to share lip gloss but Kate could have said no. I don't understand what's so upsetting about Megan using her finger? If I lent someone my lip gloss I'd insist they used their finger and not their mouth. Apparently the mouth harbours more germs than your average toilet.

Then there's the report that William and Kate were uncomfortable being hugged by Megan. There are literally hundreds of photos of William and Kate hugging random strangers on the internet! Yet when Megan makes this faux pas it's offensive to them.

It seemed like William and Kate expected to be treated with great formality by Megan - as if she was one of their subjects. It also seems that Megan couldn't do anything right! Megan on the other hand perhaps expected a little more intimacy given that they were her partner's family. It doesn't sound like they did much to make her feel comfortable and welcome in to the family. Does anyone agree/disagree?

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Shelefttheweb · 09/01/2023 13:41

Did Charlotte have a dress fitting? It didn’t look like they had got round to her dress. Maybe hemmed it 10 minutes before the service and ran out of time to line it too.

BethDuttonsTwin · 09/01/2023 13:42

Clearly yellow. Though appeared lighter, outside, in bright sunlight.

Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.
LadyVictoriaSponge · 09/01/2023 13:43

BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers · 09/01/2023 13:28

You are wilfully misunderstanding this. Nothing wrong with plastic surgery. Everything wrong with sending out palace statements to refute that she had it, whilst same palace did exactly zero to protect Meghan.

The only reason the palace got involved with these claims about Kate is because the companies concerned we’re using it as advertising, where is the palace statement that says “The Duchess of Cambridge does not get Botox or wear hair extensions”?

LondonJax · 09/01/2023 13:43

I'm afraid Harry is just coming across as 'and another thing...and another thing' with all the lip gloss, baby hormones he said/she did business.

Being open and honest (if that's what you believe he is) about the way he was treated is one thing. Bringing up every petty grievance just waters down the important stuff and comes across like a kid who's on a roll with mum or dad about a sibling - 'and he said this, then she did that and then I did and they did this'.

It looks like someone who's been advised by their therapist to 'write it all down', took it literally then whacked it over the publisher without a second glance. If he wants us to be therapists he can give everyone a free copy! I'm not paying to make him feel better.

If my SIL had dismissed my post pregnancy thought or action as 'baby brain' she wouldn't have got such a polite comeback. My 'baby brain' didn't soften my tongue as she'd have found out. Extremely rude.

StatisticallyChallenged · 09/01/2023 13:43

BethDuttonsTwin · 09/01/2023 13:40

Hadn’t that outfit been worn previously? And hadn’t Kate just had a baby? I would have thought those two points drove the choice of outfit. A new outfit would have taken focus off the bride and you’d be moaning about that too. Possibly she was carrying a little baby weight - yes she’s thin but after each baby, quite normally, not as thin as she might want to be so maybe thought getting use out of an old outfit the better option.

It was a copy of a previously worn dress - the other one is actually white though.

AliceOlive · 09/01/2023 13:43

Yeah, that’s clearly yellow.

But I guess let’s assume the worst while waving away the fact that they announced the pregnancy at his cousin’s wedding. A
cousin who pretty much never is made the center of attention in that family.

Monzeitia · 09/01/2023 13:45

She is absolutely deluded, she has created and believe this story in her mind about perfect Meghan and evil sister in law, I wonder if she is having the same mushrooms as Harry, at this point she sounds mental just like her idols

toomuchlaundry · 09/01/2023 13:47

When is it okay to accuse someone of having baby brain and when isn't it? Is it only something women can say to each other, would it have been rude if Harry had said it instead of Meghan? What about a MIL saying it? Your boss, if so, would it make a difference if it was a female or male boss?

SallyWD · 09/01/2023 13:47

Monzeitia · 09/01/2023 13:45

She is absolutely deluded, she has created and believe this story in her mind about perfect Meghan and evil sister in law, I wonder if she is having the same mushrooms as Harry, at this point she sounds mental just like her idols

Who has?

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AliceOlive · 09/01/2023 13:47

LadyVictoriaSponge · 09/01/2023 13:43

The only reason the palace got involved with these claims about Kate is because the companies concerned we’re using it as advertising, where is the palace statement that says “The Duchess of Cambridge does not get Botox or wear hair extensions”?

Where is @serenster with the collage showing many times the Palace defended Meghan? It’s just not true that they failed to have her back.

Dreamstate · 09/01/2023 13:48

Kate shouldn't of loaned her lip gloss in the first place if it bothered her.

I also think its abit hypocritical to be okay about hugging random strangers on these walk abouts and then be uptight about hugging your sister or in law or brothers gf.

I agree with another poster who said Meghan is one of those persons who from the moment you meet are just more familiar with you.

AliceOlive · 09/01/2023 13:48

Dreamstate · 09/01/2023 13:48

Kate shouldn't of loaned her lip gloss in the first place if it bothered her.

I also think its abit hypocritical to be okay about hugging random strangers on these walk abouts and then be uptight about hugging your sister or in law or brothers gf.

I agree with another poster who said Meghan is one of those persons who from the moment you meet are just more familiar with you.

The only person saying Kate didn’t want to loan her lipgloss is Harry. He’s the one whinging here, not Kate.

Monzeitia · 09/01/2023 13:50

That Bella whatever account, she even speak for the latest QE

Yeahrightthen · 09/01/2023 13:50

AliceOlive · 09/01/2023 13:43

Yeah, that’s clearly yellow.

But I guess let’s assume the worst while waving away the fact that they announced the pregnancy at his cousin’s wedding. A
cousin who pretty much never is made the center of attention in that family.

The comments about the colour of Kate’s outfit at the wedding are so ridiculous anyway and really come across as MM fans scraping the barrel trying to find perceived slights from Kate.

Do we really believe that everything about that wedding wasn’t carefully coordinated to look harmonious and pleasing on the eye? From a control freak like Megan?

Even I asked the key members of my wedding to wear shades of pink and geeen to complement my bouquet/bridesmaids - and I’m not a public figure and usually very laidback - I just knew it’d look good on the photos and distinguish members of the wedding party!

chocolateflapjacks · 09/01/2023 13:51

toomuchlaundry · 09/01/2023 13:47

When is it okay to accuse someone of having baby brain and when isn't it? Is it only something women can say to each other, would it have been rude if Harry had said it instead of Meghan? What about a MIL saying it? Your boss, if so, would it make a difference if it was a female or male boss?

Mother to mother when friends is fine

50shadesofneigh · 09/01/2023 13:52

Yes, I do think Harry is coming across as precious and oversensitive.

Farmageddon · 09/01/2023 13:53

BethDuttonsTwin · 09/01/2023 13:42

Clearly yellow. Though appeared lighter, outside, in bright sunlight.

In other news - Camilla's hat 😱

Moonlightdust · 09/01/2023 13:53

If these petty claims are the worst grievances against Kate, imagine what shockers Kate could probably reveal about MM. I doubt we will ever hear her side of the story or any grievances against her personally as I don’t think she would stoop so low to publicly declare private family conflicts.

Bugeyedowl · 09/01/2023 13:53

SallyWD · 09/01/2023 12:09

I'll start by saying I know there are 2 sides to every story. Also, I'm not a Megan fan. I have no idea what she's like. She might be awful. I neither like her, nor dislike her. I feel the same way about Kate.

But anyway, in light of the stories that Harry is telling, does anyone else feel that Kate (and William) comes across as rather precious and over sensitive?

First of all there's the baby brain incident. Apparently Kate forgot something or made a mistake and Megan responded by saying "Oh don't worry, it's probably the baby brain". Kate then feels insulted by this remark and says something along the lines of "You don't me well enough to comment on my hormones". William joins in by pointing his finger at Megan and saying "It's rude Megan, we don't do that here." I mean seriously?? I think the baby brain remark was completely benign. I'm sure Megan was trying to reassure Kate not to worry about her mistake. Just after having my baby I paid for my shopping and walked out leaving it in the shop. The cashier had to call me back and I apologised. She also said "Don't worry, it's the baby brain". I wasn't at all offended. I was relieved she understood! I certainly didn't think "How dare a stranger comment on my hormones". The irony of William telling Megan off for rudeness whilst pointing his finger at her. I find it far more rude to point in someone's face than to mention baby brain. If I was Megan and had received that reaction to my innocent remark I would have felt humiliated and very upset.

Then there's the lipgloss incident. Megan asked to borrow Kate's lipgloss. Kate lends it to her then gets upset that she dabs it with her finger. I understand some people don't want to share lip gloss but Kate could have said no. I don't understand what's so upsetting about Megan using her finger? If I lent someone my lip gloss I'd insist they used their finger and not their mouth. Apparently the mouth harbours more germs than your average toilet.

Then there's the report that William and Kate were uncomfortable being hugged by Megan. There are literally hundreds of photos of William and Kate hugging random strangers on the internet! Yet when Megan makes this faux pas it's offensive to them.

It seemed like William and Kate expected to be treated with great formality by Megan - as if she was one of their subjects. It also seems that Megan couldn't do anything right! Megan on the other hand perhaps expected a little more intimacy given that they were her partner's family. It doesn't sound like they did much to make her feel comfortable and welcome in to the family. Does anyone agree/disagree?

I totally agree with you.

Kate seems extremely uptight if this were the case. She wasn't born a bloody royal, could she not have extended a bit of warmth to a new sister, from one 'commoner' to another? Her status has probably gone to her head.

TudorPot · 09/01/2023 13:54

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50shadesofneigh · 09/01/2023 13:54

Harry sounds incredibly sexist. Of course, women fall out over dresses and lipgloss. That's just what womanbrain does! It might have been more authentic from Meghan speaking, although all Meghan said was she was drawing a line under it and accepted Kate's apology, but thanks for the mansplain, Harry!

MrsFinkelstein · 09/01/2023 13:54

"See also: the fact the palace was made to comment against the Botox and hair extension rumours (both of which are true btw). She cares deeply about her image and clinging to her youth more than anything else and Meghan threatened that both by being better at public engagement and by being the new
girl".

As has been pointed out several times before, the Palace didn't deny Kate had botox or extensions - they denied she had used the services of the clinic using her image to advertise their services by claiming she was a client.

They did the same when a clinic said Meghan used their diet pills.

www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a28675767/meghan-markle-buckingham-palace-diet-pill-denial/

restorativejustice · 09/01/2023 13:54

Who knows what really happened, but tbh I think it is more rude to declare something as innocuous as saying baby brain as rude or too intrusive. The most well mannered people I know are concerned with putting other people at their ease rather than pointing out rules of decorum. William could have had a quiet word with Harry if Kate really didn't like it, but literally declaring something as 'rude' is in itself pretty rude.

FallonofDynasty · 09/01/2023 13:56

You've spelt Megan wrong OP, it is spelt Meagain.

LondonJax · 09/01/2023 13:57

Dreamstate · 09/01/2023 13:48

Kate shouldn't of loaned her lip gloss in the first place if it bothered her.

I also think its abit hypocritical to be okay about hugging random strangers on these walk abouts and then be uptight about hugging your sister or in law or brothers gf.

I agree with another poster who said Meghan is one of those persons who from the moment you meet are just more familiar with you.

Firstly we've only got Meghan's (and Harry following on behind) word that Kate didn't want to lend it. As we weren't there and Kate hasn't spoken about it you can take it that any number of things could have been happening in her mind

Like:

Why can't Meghan be more organised, she's a PITA
I don't want to lend my lip gloss to her but it looks rude not to and she knows I've got some
What's going on over there (so a scowl of curiosity, nothing to do with the bloody lip gloss)
This is the fourth time this month she's borrowed my make up - maybe she can use her credit card to buy her own instead of buying more IKEA cabinets

Secondly, I am a hugger. I come from a family of huggers on my mum's side. But my dad, when he first dated my mum, and my DH, when we began dating, both subtly said 'my family isn't really into hugs so take it steady'. Which we did as you always err on the side of caution until you get to know the other person. Well, most of us do...

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