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Is Harry sort of blackmailing the Royal family?

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Neverendingcough · 09/01/2023 11:49

Just this

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BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 21:41

I don't. They know the only way to take away control from the media longer term is to dump in the media any revelations that could be leaked.

PicturesOfDogs · 09/01/2023 21:41

stormywaves · 09/01/2023 21:32

I'm not anti monarchist, but there are inherent risks that come with a hereditary monarchy when people are born into roles that they are fundamentally unsuited to and do not want.

This is true but there are other members of the RF who have managed to have a normal'ish lifestyle outside of it without making such as tits up mess of it as H&M. How often do you hear about Peter Philips etc, even Eugenie and Beatrice have managed some sort of compromise between Royal duties and working/family life.

If H&M had any real integrity about not wanting to be part of the institution they would give up the HRH titles. But that will not happen.

The sad part is, I think they knew that.
He wanted out, and I do think they knew that. And retired to facilitate it.

Its why the Queen told Meghan she could continue acting.

She was encouraging them to build their own lives IMO.

Let’s not forget. no one made Meghan be a senior royal. No one forced her into ‘the firm’
She made that choice.

Thats why I don’t quite get her angst, because she was the one who wanted to ‘hit the ground running’ yet complained it was their fault she didn’t know what to do.

toomuchlaundry · 09/01/2023 21:45

Not sure how good he would be at blackmailing as he can’t seem to keep the story straight as changes the story in different interviews

AdventFridgeOfShame · 09/01/2023 21:49

Frankensteinisamonster · 09/01/2023 12:20

He is clearly Charles;s son for goodness sake.

I miss read this as "He is clearly Clarkson's son"
, now that would be an interesting twist

ZenNudist · 09/01/2023 21:50

IamThegreaterMole · 09/01/2023 12:00

I think this is all much more about money than he is admitting

I agree with @IamThegreaterMole

I think this is all about money but he has connected some outrage to try and justify it.

I think they were hoping to blackmail the RF to have the half in half out arrangement but it was rejected and his threat was to retaliate with revelations.

I think William went for harry because he threatened to reveal his affair. Could be fanciful but would make sense. I think harry has some serious gossip on wills.

Unsure33 · 09/01/2023 21:59

I felt the printing of those private texts between Meghan and Kate were a type of threat . A bit like look at what we have on you ….. plenty more where that came from .

the blows seem to get lower .

PicturesOfDogs · 09/01/2023 21:59

ZenNudist · 09/01/2023 21:50

I agree with @IamThegreaterMole

I think this is all about money but he has connected some outrage to try and justify it.

I think they were hoping to blackmail the RF to have the half in half out arrangement but it was rejected and his threat was to retaliate with revelations.

I think William went for harry because he threatened to reveal his affair. Could be fanciful but would make sense. I think harry has some serious gossip on wills.

I bet they both have dirt on each other.
He said they were both shouting and trading insults.
Maybe more like threatening who knows what about who.

The comedy element of the dog bowl and the necklace has made me frame it in my mind like that episode of friends, where Monica and Ross keep snitching on each other to their parents! 😂

trucklebrunch · 09/01/2023 22:40

I don't think he's blackmailing them I think he's punishing them - he's throwing everything he has at them as payback for not getting what he wanted.

Trying to make other people look bad so that you look better never ends well, ever, not in any scenario.

bloodyplanes · 09/01/2023 23:00

Absolutely no way has he aired everything in his book and interviews! These are warning shots to show them just how low he is prepared to go if they don't do what he wants! I also believe that the bullying report that was conducted against megan paints a less than flattering picture of her, and he is trying to scare them into not ever releasing or leaking it by showing them just how vindictive he is prepared to be to " protect" his wife. He is also covering all bases by putting it out there that its the " institution" and his family putting lies out there about him and megan so that if it does get " leaked" they can claim that its a planted lie!

DownNative · 10/01/2023 03:18

Whatever his changing reasons for all this.....Harry is falling in the Opinion Polling after a lifetime of the Royal Family doing their best to improve his public image.

When his racist behaviour came out years ago, the Royals protected and improved his position even though it was his own doing. Not the RF, Media or the public.

At the time, these revelations were reported by the Guardian in 2009 like this:

"The extracts were greeted with exasperation in palace circles, where huge efforts have been made to improve the prince's image, emphasising his charity work and service in Afghanistan last year, after previous apologies for other incidents, such as the fancy dress party four years ago when he dressed as a Nazi soldier."

How conveniently he forgets.....the Palace protected and changed his image for years positively.

On his own, he's continued to slide down opinion polls. 🤷‍♂️

Nobody will be talking about Harry's charity work in Afghanistan ever again after what he said about the Taliban he claimed to have killed. There are also Afghans calling for him to stand trial in the international criminal court too.

What an idiot.

CoffeandTiaMaria · 10/01/2023 03:42

It’s blackmail through and through.
“I genuinely believe that if me and my family can reconcile ... but first there has to be compensation and accountability. "
So he wants the RF to pay him more than they have already so that they can reconcile! Incredible that he even thinks that this is a possibility now surely.
It’s money, money, money every single time.

Diverseopinions · 10/01/2023 06:22

PicturesOfDogs · 09/01/2023 21:41

The sad part is, I think they knew that.
He wanted out, and I do think they knew that. And retired to facilitate it.

Its why the Queen told Meghan she could continue acting.

She was encouraging them to build their own lives IMO.

Let’s not forget. no one made Meghan be a senior royal. No one forced her into ‘the firm’
She made that choice.

Thats why I don’t quite get her angst, because she was the one who wanted to ‘hit the ground running’ yet complained it was their fault she didn’t know what to do.

I agree with all comments. Other Royals have managed the balance of normal and private life. On the other hand, I can see a vulnerability in Harry, if I close my ideas to his arrogance and sense of vain delight in himself as girl-mad stud and super-cool, action guy.

I feel he comes across as someone who never got Royal Life and was generally perplexed by having to do things. Not like being disingenuous. Before he met Meghan, I think a lot of his presentation and actions got put down to him being a lad and not wanting to conform, but it always seemed that he just wasn't aware of the bigger picture and the patterns of Royal Life that are there for a reason. He looked like he was being steered around ceremonial occasions, usually by William. He had all these aides to cover up for scrapes and to accompany him on all of his doings, but he still got into trouble. Why?

When Meghan joined him on Royal engagements after his marriage, I presumed that William didn't feel that he, or even the other staff, could subtly give him a word as to what to do - ' Go over there..', 'The person we're meeting is down there...' sort of thing, as you can't steer two people. At times, I noticed him looking lost and cross, as if to say, 'Why isn't someone at my shoulder to be there with me?' ' Why isn't someone coming to chatter nonchalantly with me and do this with me?'

I feel he is like one of those adults one knows who can't take in instructions and detail: couldn't as a child and can't really grasp the bigger picture as an adult.

I think the openness about fighting the Taliban is so ill-judged and so insensitive, to comrades and to the individuals, no doubt, some, pressured by expectation to joining The Taliban, that he must have some kind of additional need ( whether life-long or of the moment) which needs help.

maranella · 10/01/2023 06:46

How often do you hear about Peter Philips etc, even Eugenie and Beatrice have managed some sort of compromise between Royal duties and working/family life.

None of them are working royals. They are members of the family, but they do not have official royal roles. That was the problem - Harry wanted to retain all the benefits, trappings, titles and patronages of royal life while making money on the side. So of course he was going to trade on all that in order to generate income, how could he not? And that's what the Queen, Charles and William objected to.

He still wants that half in half option.
Desperately wants it.

I agree. The talk of Commonwealth roles and the way he said in one of the interviews that he still thinks the half-in, half-out model can work suggests that he's still hoping to renegotiate Megxit and get what they wanted. Poor, deluded fool.

x2boys · 10/01/2023 07:40

Tessasanderson · 09/01/2023 12:18

The big one is still outstanding. His parentage.

He's the image of Charles,with the Spencer red hair🙄

Radyward · 10/01/2023 07:56

He is a ruddy nightmare
How entitled and arrogant are they to think that the minions are remotely interested in his story or troooths ? It must be told- like seriously. Definately wanted the half in half out with perks.i mean he couldn't be so stupid to not realise the taliban chess pieces wasnt goin to be incendiary!!!

William is coming across very dutiful and fulfilling the Queens legacy. Witnout him and Kate,the monarchy would be un trouble
.anyone else think William and his rages and anger stories makes him come across v badly.. As for Kare, did she look on Meghan with complete disdain this not privately educated actress from the USA and not give her a chance. Looks like W wasnt for the marriage atall unwiling to be woth PH the night before the wedding .

Swimswam · 10/01/2023 08:00

Well surely his family (and friends) will never ever disclose anything personal or private to him again. The risk of him using it against them or publicizing it is too great.

TizerorFizz · 10/01/2023 08:44

Lawyers acting for the RF have asked ABC for the interview aired by them - so say The Telegraph this morning. They think it’s remarks Harry made about Camilla and other Royal children. Is Harry going to be challenged on his remarks?

PicturesOfDogs · 10/01/2023 08:51

TizerorFizz · 10/01/2023 08:44

Lawyers acting for the RF have asked ABC for the interview aired by them - so say The Telegraph this morning. They think it’s remarks Harry made about Camilla and other Royal children. Is Harry going to be challenged on his remarks?

I thought that ABC had reached out to them for comment, and the lawyers asked for a copy of the interview. Which was refused.

That was certainly the case for CBS, as AC made a snidey comment at the end that that’s ‘not the way it’s done here’ or something (paraphrasing)

Dont see what the issue is though, surely it’s logical to want to see it before giving comment?

Diverseopinions · 10/01/2023 09:06

CulturePigeon · 09/01/2023 13:14

Sweetgingercat
The racism angle links in with the commonwealth. The commonwealth is a cornerstone of the RF and we all see countries gradually veering away from accepting the queen/king as head of state. The RF has to deal with this. What commonwealth country with a majority black population wants a white racist head of state? This is where H&M thought they could make a difference and this is where they now hold the power to make some change.
But - the monarch isn't the head of state for most Commonwealth countries! The British monarch is currently still HoS of the Dominions, such as Canada, Australia and NZ, by consent. The others are independent, and the idea of the Commonwealth is really a social club to foster goodwill for the old 'family' of the empire. The Queen said that she would happily serve the Dominions as HoS as long as they wanted her, but when they didn't, that would be fine - just let her know and everyone could remain friends. Despite republican movements in the Dominions, they keep voting to retain the monarch as HoS. But it's entirely up to them - so please don't imply there's any massive, brutal oppression going on here!

I saw an interview with a woman who was head of the Commonwealth Office (can't remember her precise designation - sorry) and she explained that, when younger, she'd been prejudiced against it, but had come to understand its vital role. For many of the smaller countries it allows them 'a place at the big table' which they wouldn't otherwise get. There is no compulsion to stay - and those who wish to leave can do so easily.

Secondly...are you seriously saying that the Queen was racist? How do you know? That's a massive allegation to make! I don't see how you can possibly find evidence for such a suggestion - everything she did in her life militates against it.

Bizarre that you blame the Queen, who absolutely loved the Commonwealth and the goodwill it (used to!) engender between countries, yet swallow silly, shallow, trouble-making Harry and Meghan's narrative wholesale!!

I would beg to differ with the presumption that Harry and Meghan wanted a Commonwealth role. I believe that very recently Harry might have said that they would like it. Leaving as working Royals directly after the tour of South Africa is, to me, suggestive. I think they, or maybe, especially Meghan, could not see herself living in any of the places which she had visited and living in the places and in the manner in which they had stayed in accommodation.

I am very happy to stand correction, but is it right to presume that because a person has biracial heritage that they would like that fact to define who they are and always to be seen as the 'inclusion' warrior? Meghan has played many roles in her working life and not all, if any, would have been making a feature of her heritage. I think she should be allowed to choose which of the many silks in the rich tapestry which is her profile actually define her. But, nobody, in any case, has to be defined in their work by personality, height, voice, looks, interests. If you have the necessary experience and capabilities, you can do any job, in this equal world in which we live.

milti · 10/01/2023 09:16

I wonder why they’re crawling back for a role in the Commonwealth (Empire 2). It couldn’t be because they have nothing else to sell and need to keep that royal link for PR and publicity could it? Surely not ?

stormywaves · 10/01/2023 09:57

That was the problem - Harry wanted to retain all the benefits, trappings, titles and patronages of royal life while making money on the side.

and this is the Catch 22 situation he has got himself in. He says he does not like or want to be in the 'Institution' but wants all the benefits of it. And again, it boils down to the fact he does not have any other option to make the money, he has grown used to having, but to rely on his HRH title and connections to the RF.

If he had any integrity and truly believed he would be better off without the RF, the wicked step mother, bullying father & brother etc he should give up the HRH titles and move on with Meghan (who could give acting another shot).

F4chrissakes · 10/01/2023 10:01

You mean there's more to come? Stuff he can blackmail them over?
What, serious stuff, more serious than dog bowls, teddy bears, penises, lunches with journalists, bridesmaids dresses and lipgloss?
Nah. He's thrown everything bar the kitchen sink in this. There isn't any more. Though I shall keep watching, just in case. Smile

DeadbeatYoda · 10/01/2023 10:05

I think he has been screwed over by his own family and is hitting back. It's all very nauseating but then I find the monarchy to be a disgusting anachronism anyway, the sooner they do the decent thing and step back the better.

TizerorFizz · 10/01/2023 12:16

@PicturesOfDogs
No. The paper is saying the request to ABC went in during the transmission.

stormywaves · 12/01/2023 09:16

I have come to the conclusion that he will allow the RF access to his children (as he says it will bring him get joy to see his kids having a relationship with the RF) in exchange for a commonwealth role. I think this is what the final end game is.

of course titles for the kids will be a requirement as M felt hard done by when they did not get them from day 1.

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