Is Harry sort of blackmailing the Royal family?

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Just this

The dog guarding Hades is Cerberus, not Cerebus ...

In a way yes. It’s like he thinks if he keeps on an on with the interviews etc that they’ll buckle and have the “conversation” he kept referring to.

And I'm willing to bet that conversation will go something like this:

"Give us what we want and we'll stop with the attacks". i.e. blackmail.

He said it in his interview they want senior roles in the Commonwealth.

Because all the dignitaries will be positively itching to meet him just to shake his hand.

No one will ever want to say anything other than hello lest he pop it in his next tome.

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The racism angle links in with the commonwealth. The commonwealth is a cornerstone of the RF and we all see countries gradually veering away from accepting the queen/king as head of state. The RF has to deal with this. What commonwealth country with a majority black population wants a white racist head of state? This is where H&M thought they could make a difference and this is where they now hold the power to make some change.
But - the monarch isn't the head of state for most Commonwealth countries! The British monarch is currently still HoS of the Dominions, such as Canada, Australia and NZ, by consent. The others are independent, and the idea of the Commonwealth is really a social club to foster goodwill for the old 'family' of the empire. The Queen said that she would happily serve the Dominions as HoS as long as they wanted her, but when they didn't, that would be fine - just let her know and everyone could remain friends. Despite republican movements in the Dominions, they keep voting to retain the monarch as HoS. But it's entirely up to them - so please don't imply there's any massive, brutal oppression going on here!

I saw an interview with a woman who was head of the Commonwealth Office (can't remember her precise designation - sorry) and she explained that, when younger, she'd been prejudiced against it, but had come to understand its vital role. For many of the smaller countries it allows them 'a place at the big table' which they wouldn't otherwise get. There is no compulsion to stay - and those who wish to leave can do so easily.

Secondly...are you seriously saying that the Queen was racist? How do you know? That's a massive allegation to make! I don't see how you can possibly find evidence for such a suggestion - everything she did in her life militates against it.

Bizarre that you blame the Queen, who absolutely loved the Commonwealth and the goodwill it (used to!) engender between countries, yet swallow silly, shallow, trouble-making Harry and Meghan's narrative wholesale!!

Exactly this.

How could he do that to his own family? Is it him or is he indeed sort of brainwashed by Meghan?

I think it's a combination OP (and apologies for the essay that follows!) I think he always wanted out of the strictures of the official role of being Prince Harry, supporting the monarch and the institution. I think he found it stifling and hated the intrusion on his privacy. Fair enough - I think we can all understand that - and I think Meghan gave him an out, and that was part of her attraction.

But I think the plan that they cooked up between them to leave and make shit loads of money while still retaining all the benefits of being royal was half-baked and they rushed it and screwed up. They were beavering away behind the scenes for months before they left, setting up Sussex Royal and coming up with a plan to be global philanthropists, mixing with billionaires, PMs and Presidents with their royal titles and the blessing of the Queen, etc. But when Harry failed to get a private meeting with the Queen in Jan 2020, which he'd clearly counted on to persuade her to say 'Yes' without any advisors around, he was furious and felt utterly thwarted and I think most of what's happened since is a result of that.

I feel certain that he's still smarting about the loss of his royal status, his taxpayer-funded security, the ability to trademark their names and set up a foundation with the word 'royal' attached to it, and his patronages, particularly the military ones. I think he and Meghan were counting on all those things to enable them to springboard into the life they'd planned as global philanthropists and important people who could leverage their names and titles to have real influence. The deal the RF family cut them though and the timing of the pandemic put paid to all of that and, in addition, they had to come up with a way to make lots of money fast. They needed the sort of home that befitted their status, and they needed round-the-clock security, which surely costs a fortune. And with them both feeling angry and slighted and out-manoevred do you think they care that they're damaging the very institution and the very people they blame for putting them in that position? I don't.

So is all of this Meghan's fault? I think Meghan has enabled and encouraged Harry to do what he's doing and I think while she's conspicuous for her silence over the past week or two, she's 100% behind everything he's said and done. Plus, I think she's the one with the huge ambition for them to be movers and shakers on the world stage, people who are there at the tables where big decisions are made. Those Commonwealth roles he talked about? I reckon that's her. I honestly think he'd have been happy to potter off to Botswana and work in conservation before she came along. I think there are no limits to her ambition and if the RF think they can placate the pair of them with a muttered apology in private, they can think again.

This.

Ah, but who will want to interview him if he keeps saying the same thing over and over? Unless he has new material and revelations to share, there's going to be dwindling interest. And he won't be able to source new material while he's estranged. The only thing he could have in his back pocket is the truth about the Rose Hanbury gossip, but he knows unleashing that would mean the end of him and William and Kate forever and it would mostly likely be the one thing that loses him public support because it would be SO spiteful to air it.

You really think they would announce that he killed 25 Taliban and Kate gave Meghan a look when Meghan asked to borrow her lipgloss?

Details of a threesome perhaps?😂it would explain Kate's nose being put out of joint by Meghan's arrival on the scene.

We don't know how much the NF deal was worth, but even if it was what is claimed, that will be a production deal, not money in his bank account. Only a small fraction of that will be net profit for them, and they have a very expensive lifestyle.

And after the fool he's made of himself over the past week, I can't see any serious organisations wanting to work with him in the future. His only stock in trade is royal gossip, and that's already wearing as thin as his hairline.

I think he was blackmailing them in a way with the Oprah interview - a taste of what he was willing to do.... I think this is the result of non-compliance from that threat (said or unsaid - who knows). If the stories that have been published thus far are true then he went too far though and I have no respect for someone who discloses personal information about others (Charles teddy bear?).

Only the Royal Family and their advisors know if he can go any further and probably not all of them will know either.... It will be interesting what happens next.

I can see that, and I agree with you.

I'm not anti monarchist, but there are inherent risks that come with a hereditary monarchy when people are born into roles that they are fundamentally unsuited to and do not want.

Brilliantly put and I believe this too. It was so rushed, wasn't it? They'd been beavering away in the backgrounds with the trademarks and registering companies and then the Queen didn't allow the half-in-out scenario and Covid.

I do also think that Harry has always had a very depressive, self destruct personality. He seems to have lack of impulse control and quick to temper; not uncommon to see the 'red mist' in some people with ADHD. But, tellingly, those with depressive tendencies often have an 'external locus of control' mindset i.e. they see all the things that happen to them as outside their own control; it's always 'others' fault.

Harry and Meghan hardly did anything though! It was a very short period of involvement. Yes, Charles is known to be tetchy. He didn’t think Diana should be photographed more than him but, objectively, William and Kate maintained a higher profile. Meghan planted stories via her friends.

We actually have a fairly muzzled press. They are held to account if stories are not true. However if they are given true stories, there’s no case to answer. We have around 5 non tabloid newspapers. No one has to read a tabloid.

He said it in his interview they want senior roles in the Commonwealth.

The British Commonwealth 2.0? Surely not.

Duh, obvs meant British Empire 2.0, as mentioned in their Netflix prog.

He still wants that half in half option.
Desperately wants it.

Its not going to happen though, his family aren’t even speaking to him, let along knocking down his door.

And how can he realistically expect to be an ambassador now, after frost bitten penis, mounting in fields, a whole cacophony of drug use etc. He’s no longer respectable IMO

I'm not anti monarchist, but there are inherent risks that come with a hereditary monarchy when people are born into roles that they are fundamentally unsuited to and do not want.

This is true but there are other members of the RF who have managed to have a normal'ish lifestyle outside of it without making such as tits up mess of it as H&M. How often do you hear about Peter Philips etc, even Eugenie and Beatrice have managed some sort of compromise between Royal duties and working/family life.

If H&M had any real integrity about not wanting to be part of the institution they would give up the HRH titles. But that will not happen.

I think he is. I also think if he’s not successful he will be reunited with them a lot sooner than he thinks.

Yes.

I can imagine that if you've gone a certain way to telling your truth, you might just feel like throwing the kitchen sink at it, so to speak, and just saying everything you think is relevant, about yourself. Harry probably thinks: " Well it sounds ok to me, I believe in what I've done, so I'll say it all and be darned".

I suppose it is what Diana thought that she wanted to do, in her interview. Perhaps Harry has the same kind of personality and desire to be defined by how they feel emotionally and the integrity of that.

On his own answering questions, I don't think he comes across as false. He doesn't care about the feelings of others. How he himself feels is of paramount importance to him. Perhaps that engrossment in the moment of feeling is responsible for that charm and empathy which he is said to have when he visits people in hospital.

I think entitled and rather deluded about what he should get, is how he comes across. He doesn't see that just being Royal and having a roof over your head and always nannies, protection officers, mentors, therapists to support you is being fortunate. I think the Royal role is beyond anybody's ken to sort out. You just have to kind of accept what comes your way, as The Queen did. Harry doesn't grasp that.

I think all the conspiring with the press theory he spouts is very off beam and too much. He sees schemes and agendas where they don't exist. I think doing some really good talking therapy would help him.

I think Harry and Meghan truly believe they are controlling their narrative. Very naively.