Prince Harry - sounds articulate and quite intelligent

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There seems to be an accepted view that Prince Harry is very dim and unintelligent but he seems to be to be really quite articulate and have a wide vocabulary (antagonist, complicit.) I've thought this before when he made a speech at the Invictus games but assumed it was written for him and he was reading it but the answers to the questions in the interview couldn't all possibly have been learnt,

I'm wondering how they'll get an income when soft-boy's nonsense dies down or runs out and they can't get any more money for selling the RF down the river.

Drivel

The wisdom of MN is 'look at what a man does, not what he says.'

Or' actions speak louder than words.'

Anyone with any intelligence would not a) write the book in the first place and b) discuss his feelings in public.

H is in a position, unlike us mere mortals, where he is able to summon the media (when it suits him) to provide a platform.

That doesn't mean it is the best thing to do.

It is frankly unbelievable why a man with these grievances against his closest family would behave in this way and expect a good outcome.

It comes over as bullying because he knows they cannot reply and make it into a bigger soap opera than it is now.

I don't always agree with Jonathan Dimbleby, but if you get the chance, listen to his interview in BBC Radio 4 Today (Saturday) which said it all -

"Harry - Do this in private with your family. Get some proper counselling."

@AutumnCrow being a chess play may mean one form of intelligence but believe it or not some professional chess players are seriously lacking in other forms of intelligence e.g. social, interpersonal.

Agree - he is so full of his own self importance. I wonder what makes him think this.

I don’t think it’s a surprise he’s able to express himself clearly, given how much money has been spent on his education. Not sure how much it’s indicative of intelligence, what I do think about the interview is how evasive he was. He pushed this one narrative about how much of a victim he is, and how much he serves his country wherever he is, and seemed to get very angry when the interviewer asked him any questions that might so much as hint that there are two sides to the story, it made me wonder what his real personality is. He seems to be a big baby, he seems to want to be liked and admired and seems happy to force people to show admiration if needed. The funny thing is, I do think he’s been hard done by from an emotional point of view, he comes across as a young man who just wants his mum, wants love from his dad and brother and the wives of all seem to have created these rifts between them and are now obstructing reconciliation. He just doesn’t make himself very likeable.

What this situation requires is emotional intelligence not a working knowledge of long words. That tends to come with age for many. He’ll look back at this in twenty years and wonder what the fuck he was doing.

He has attacked the Royal Family, on here, thats unforgiveable.

I like them both, rather them than his awful father and Camilla.

Very easy to sound articulate in a pre-rehearsed interview.

If he had one ounce of intelligence he wouldn't have done Oprah/Netflix/Interview.

I'm PhD educated and can't play chess to save my life. I might possess honed skills of analysis and criticality, but have no sense of strategy whatsoever.

Yes, he is so intelligent that he has painted a target on the back of his wife, children, the RF and the armed forces.
He is an entitled mush-for-brains. Pity, he used to be one of my favourite royals.

Harry wasn't academic that doesn't mean he is unintelligent.

And being bright is no indication of moral superiority.

He definitely has something attractive about him. I think he's reasonably articulate but I think what is attractive about him is that he communicates as if he truly believes what he's saying and that he thinks he's helping.

Authenticity is attractive as often we don't feel this from people. They feel rehearsed or like they're acting a role, and then there is a distance from them, but Harry doesn't come across like this. He seems genuine. If genuinely deluded.

Meghan is more articulate and polished but her style comes across as acting a role which I think makes her appear less authentic and likeable.

I thought Harry sounded quite good, it was just the content was muddled and deluded. But he really meant it.

MN can be like a hive of anti-H & M pitchfork holding "burn the witches" frothing at the mouth DM readers.

I don't think it really matters how he sounds or come across

His behaviour alone shows that he's not very intelligent

There's definitely an unconscious bias where people perceive people with posh accents as intelligent. I bet if someone were to read his words with an accent that's rated quite negatively for perceived intelligence you might not think that about him.

^^ Really good points; especially about who is monitoring the media. The tabloids are allowed far too much unbridled power in the UK which is curbed in other European countries.

I must be older than I thought, but to me getting a D in a subject is a fail.

He is so blinkered and self absorbed, how on earth did he expect them to come together as a family at granny’s funeral when he went on the world stage and annihilated them. He is bitter, he has the problem, not them and because they won’t react, he is getting nastier and nastier.

To be honest, all of whom you mention are always targets for extremists.

All the RF are entitled mush for brains but at least we now know they are no better, in fact worse than the rest of us.

I judge people's intelligence by their actions.

Harry's an idiot. A rich, confident idiot.

The continual ''My wife'' thing - it grates because it's possession. My dog, my car, my house, my wife.

He has had a good education and been taught etiquette and elocution from the word go, so it is to be expected he speaks eloquently. It doesn’t change the fact that he is essentially an idiot.

The bit in the interview where Harry talks about how the press thought he was was racist so he said to clear his name he married Meghan...very, very odd.

Press freedom is essential to a 21st century democracy: far more essential than a monarchy. Someone has to hold the overprivileged, arrogant establishment to account. If not the media then who?, because the system certainly will not. Were it not for the press, Andrew would have acted with impunity and even then would have walked away scot free had he not voluntarily convicted himself out of his own mouth on prime time TV.

This is the problem with a hereditary system and a culture of undue deference that refuses to see its anointed overlords can ever do any wrong. The press contributes to that misconception as well, and it does so because it clearly has agreements to paint certain family members in a rosy light if they get the green light to print all the shit they leak about others (Harry almost certainly has a legitimate gripe here).

The media is a very necessary evil. It's unfortunate that the British press in some cases tend to kowtow to the establishment and abuse the very significant power they have to influence others. But despite the horrors like Clarkson and Morgan, I wouldn't want to see that curtailed.

Actually I don't think it's remotely about that for me. It's the massive load of utter hypocritical and tone deaf shite that winds me up.

Camilla could be the biggest hanger on going. I don't really care tbh. She has demonstrated she's prepared to put up with a shit tonne of abuse for it over the years.

Harry has now orchestrated a bunch of attacks on other and dragged in people way beyond his family circle without examining either how he comes across not how it affects other not how the position of others may be down to different stages of life and priorities in life.

Sometimes life is shit. How you deal with that matters. People who seek out drama, always tend to be miserable for it rather than considering how you break out the drama triangle rather than feed it (and good therapist should have thrown this as at Harry). Even if you have shit mental health, you have to reach a point where you make a positive decision to change that rather than continuing on that path. Even if you have to hit rock bottom first.

Nothing Harry is doing is about doing anything positive. It's all negative swipes. And nothing good will come of it.

That's what I don't like. Regardless of whether the Royal Family 'deserve it'. I do think you can be critical but mindful of being constructive at the same time. There is not constructive input here. Just attack after attack.

Even if he came out and said 'i support the abolition of the monarchy' that would be better than this shit show.

It's funny. DH has for years and years said he thinks the Gallagher Brothers have a secret pact; he says that every time one of them has a new album coming out the other starts another bit row between the two. He thinks it's all deliberate to drive PR and make more money.

Harry's approach smacks of this rather than having any intention of reconciliation. It's about £££. Harry could have made all these points without monetising it for himself and that's where he really falls down to me.

He wants to maintain the status and standard of living he has first. His relationship with the family comes second to that.

The Royal Family aren't actually relevant in this sense to how I feel about the car crash he's driving.

This is about a bellend behaving like a bellend. Endangering others. Risking the security of others. Diplomatically damaging the country generally.

I just wish he'd fuck off, sort out his problems in private and have a tiny idea of how shit life is for the rest of the planet who often have shitty family relationships too.

Of course she is his wife and everybody understands that but this way of speaking sounds odd to me and almost paints her as his possession rather than a person in her own right. Maybe it is down to all his interviews being so controlled and scripted, who knows?
I do know though that if DH referred to me as "my wife" instead of Queen all the time, I would not appreciate it and I'm not sure most people would.

Interesting that you instantly fly to his defence and assume I will have certain views that are pro KC and PW based on a simple comment about a manner of speaking. Think that says more about your own prejudices as many of us don't feel a need to be so partisan and can consider more nuance