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Has anyone’s perception of Meghan changed…

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Harrysfrostbittentodger · 08/01/2023 09:44

due to Harry’s book?

I think the general consensus so far has been that Harry is emotionally damaged and a bit of a man child/idiot. I’ve also noticed a few comments on here that have said they’re starting to feel a bit sorry for her having to deal with said man child.

It will be interesting to hear other’s opinions on the matter.

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Rockybooboo · 09/01/2023 06:35

Newwardrobe · 08/01/2023 19:43

I haven't read the book, obviously but I really liked her to start with until the wedding, when she looked at him at the altar and I thought 'she's acting' .

Oh my people come out with rubbish. How dp you know she was acting?

Rockybooboo · 09/01/2023 06:38

custardbear · 09/01/2023 04:26

No, she lies to suit her own narrative. She's manipulative and suspect she's keen to keep Harry down so she can wipe the floor with him when she divorced him, takes the kids and his money

How do you know this?

DogBowlsAreMyWeapon · 09/01/2023 06:39

Do you not read body language - apologies if you’re sight-impaired. Most of us work by unconscious clues people give off which can quite often be in opposition to the words coming out of their mouths. Eg a 3 year old with chocolate around his chops declaring it wasn’t him! 😂

DogBowlsAreMyWeapon · 09/01/2023 06:41

Plus of course it’s why so often in this site it’s why we tell women to “trust their gut” when they sense something is off with a new partner. Just because it’s wearing Givenchy, doesn’t mean we ignore the “off”.

Rockybooboo · 09/01/2023 06:46

DogBowlsAreMyWeapon · 09/01/2023 06:39

Do you not read body language - apologies if you’re sight-impaired. Most of us work by unconscious clues people give off which can quite often be in opposition to the words coming out of their mouths. Eg a 3 year old with chocolate around his chops declaring it wasn’t him! 😂

Is this to me?

DogBowlsAreMyWeapon · 09/01/2023 06:51

Well you did seem a little confused about body language so I was trying to explain it in an easy-to-understand manner. 🤞

Whenharrymetsmelly · 09/01/2023 06:53

Rockybooboo · 09/01/2023 06:35

Oh my people come out with rubbish. How dp you know she was acting?

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Agree. People are totally bonkers here with what they come up with

Mamaneedsadrink · 09/01/2023 06:55

ArseInTheDogBowl · 08/01/2023 22:11

Agree @nonono1 - perhaps we should devote some attention to the US tabloid press- I clearly remember their treatment of Britney Spears in 2007/8

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It's not the same, the British Press actually bully. It's very disturbing if you can't see the difference

Prescottdanni123 · 09/01/2023 06:59

My opinion of her has got even lower. He clearly does have issues and needs help but she is taking advantage of him.

nonono1 · 09/01/2023 08:13

Mamaneedsadrink · 08/01/2023 22:59

And why do you think this was? It's wasn't the French who were obsessed with Diana? It is the high prices paid for paparazzi pictures that the British media demands. I don't even know why people can't just admit that this is warped

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It's not just the British media though - those pictures of Kate appeared in a French magazine too did they not? (Before Kate and Wills quite rightfully sued!)

HufflepuffRavenclaw · 09/01/2023 08:13

Oh I am so disappointed how it all played out. Meghan when she first came on the scene was so refreshing, she was something really different from the other members of the family and a welcome change.

But it didn't take long for the rumours to start that she was difficult - it does seem very much that she would breeze into the Royals and shake up 1000 years of history and traditions to do it her way. It's very much Harry's fault for not laying out exactly what was expected of her, and how it all "worked". That she'd always be second fiddle to Kate, that as the years went by they would be less important than Charlotte/George/Louis. That things were done a certain way and although she'd have some freedom to forge her own way with charities, she would have to toe the line. I think Harry was very naive and failed her totally by not doing that. But also - what Meghan wants, Meghan gets, remember.

I also think that as the reality of being a Royal set in, they both started winding each other up and planting the seeds of resentment in each other, validating each other's opinion about how hard done by they were, making sure that it was "them" against the world. He might be easily manipulated but they are such a toxic combination together.

Rockybooboo · 09/01/2023 08:26

DogBowlsAreMyWeapon · 09/01/2023 06:51

Well you did seem a little confused about body language so I was trying to explain it in an easy-to-understand manner. 🤞

So what body language did you seeing Meghan that made you think she was no good from the beginning. you seeing that makes you think Meghan is no good?

Also if people are so good reading body language in this country, why didn't pick up JoHnson being a liar? How comes Jimmy Savile was so popular and well respected before he died?

Abra1t · 09/01/2023 08:34

They did know boris was a liar but for whatever reason, didn’t think it was important.

Everyone with a pulse could tell that JS was not a wholesome presence. My dad made us turn the tv off when he came on because he said he was weird.

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 09/01/2023 08:47

7Worfs · 08/01/2023 09:55

No.
The whole navel-gazing and re-examining his entire life (and every single interaction with William, Kate, Charles) and rewriting history where he is always victimised by his family coincided with MM entering his life.
She turned him from a spoiled, partying lad into a paranoid, angry shell of a human. He is now somehow convinced his whole life up until he met her was a lie and everyone is out to get him.

Here we go, @7Worfs with the misogyny blame the evil she-devil woman for changing the man because God knows the male has no brain of his own. Anyone who ever paid attention to Harry pre-Meghan will know he was an angry young man, especially with the press. He famously smashed the camera of some press when he was a teen/20s. All before he met Meghan. He has always been angry and paranoid about the media. Always.

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 09/01/2023 08:54

Bananarama21 · 08/01/2023 10:46

Hes comments have done nothing to gain him favour if anything its had the opposite effect. He's too dim to see this. As the saying goes give enough rope he will hang himself and in this case he has. All people see is two toxic individuals who have both fallen out with their respective families and are playing the woe me act.

He's comments over the tiara say it all she should have been privileged to wear any from the collection. They are completely tone deaf to the real struggles people face in the world. Meghan complaining whilst filming in Africa. They want to push their narrative because that's all they got to sell their souls and throw anyone under the bus for 'their' truth. Meghan is just as compliance as harry is as evident in the documentary. I do believe if the sexes were reversed people would be saying harry was in a controlling relationship who's partner has isolated them from friends and family members and been spreading lies to the highest bidder.

The fact she doesn't have any contact with older friends and her family says it all. I don't think she's a nice person and I 100 percent believe she bullied the Palace staff members. I'd love to hear her exhusbands take on her. She does seem to be the common denominator. Everyone else is in the wrong and they are in the right. It's not always the case.

I do believe she's been egging him to share 'their truth' in the documentary, he did look extremely uncomfortable in parts inparticular when meghan did the courtesy and was laughing. Let's not forgot he's grown up in the royal family and his wife is sitting their mockery their customs. I think she will ditch him and sale her story.

@Bananarama21 The fact she doesn't have any contact with older friends and her family says it all.

Where is this rubbish coming from? The tabloids? It's well-known that she has friends she's been friends with since school days. She has many long-term friends. And so she isn't in contact with her father's side... Can you blame her? Have you not read the many people on this site that have had to go NC with their toxic family? Have you not read the Stately Homes threads? Do you have any idea at all, what it takes to go NC? And then for the likes of you to blame her for that??

StormzyinaTCup · 09/01/2023 09:00

So, @IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 remind me again why she went NC with her father?

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 09/01/2023 09:09

StormzyinaTCup · 09/01/2023 09:00

So, @IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 remind me again why she went NC with her father?

Because he was hounding and harassing her, and threatened to stalk her until she talked to him.

Ironically, in the Netflix series when he wouldn't come to the wedding she was repeatedly trying to message him and get him to reply, he avoided replying and would not reply to any of her pleas.

Charlize43 · 09/01/2023 09:09

She seems to be fulfilling all those 'actress clichés' of being money grabbing and hugely narcissistic (like a Zsa Zsa Gabor type)... and I hope for Harry's sake that once they have amassed enough wealth that she doesn't take him.

It could have all been so different: They could have moved to California with their existing wealth (already plenty) and lived a joyous life of private dignified silence, which would have been far better for their children (which should be their main concern).

The whole shit show they've created in exchange for $$$$$$$$$ seems very unpleasant, especially for two people who originally claimed to want privacy. Obviously they had their price!

trucklebrunch · 09/01/2023 09:10

I totally agree @HufflepuffRavenclaw I think Harry was so desperately in love with Meghan and terrified she may leave that he wasn't completely honest about what the entailed. She had a fantasy image of what being married to a prince would be like and ate really wanted it to work, she was disappointed- small cottage, ikea furniture, wrong tiara, boring duties with boring people, press intrusion. The RF were wary of her, Kate and her didn't immediately become besties. Her faults were magnified, it all sounds like very hard work, in a strange country and different culture.

She demanded change, she is ambitious and forceful, a strong and intelligent woman with the support of her prince...what could go wrong?

I think Harry was the loose cannon that blew and the whole thing imploded before they had time to fix anything, and before she'd really come into her own or begun to show all her strong points and assets or even find her way.

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 09/01/2023 09:10

Charlize43 · 09/01/2023 09:09

She seems to be fulfilling all those 'actress clichés' of being money grabbing and hugely narcissistic (like a Zsa Zsa Gabor type)... and I hope for Harry's sake that once they have amassed enough wealth that she doesn't take him.

It could have all been so different: They could have moved to California with their existing wealth (already plenty) and lived a joyous life of private dignified silence, which would have been far better for their children (which should be their main concern).

The whole shit show they've created in exchange for $$$$$$$$$ seems very unpleasant, especially for two people who originally claimed to want privacy. Obviously they had their price!

@Charlize43 For at least the 350th time on this board, they NEVER said they wanted privacy.

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 09/01/2023 09:17

ImBlueDab · 08/01/2023 13:19

I think she married him for his status and money more so now, as he's clearly got major issues. I know women get involved with men with issues to try to 'fix them' but I doubt this was the case

Oh yes, the old 'gold digger' misogyny and sexism. She already had a status before him, she certainly didn't need this 'status', like a hole in the head. And she had more money than he did. But please, do persist in showing how, even in 2023, women are our own worst enemy by perpetuating the vile misogynistic 'gold digger' tropes.

ElizabethBest · 09/01/2023 09:19

I think she thought she was “rescuing him” from his oppressive family, and is now realising too late that he’s a bit of an arse and was being held up by his family, not held down. But you reap what you sow, she’s tried to manipulate and screwed herself.

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 09/01/2023 09:19

YourWinter · 08/01/2023 13:32

I think all this has always been part of her master plan. He may have been the only person daft enough to believe she loved him and wasn’t just using him.

The misogyny on this thread truly has to be seen to believed.....

StormzyinaTCup · 09/01/2023 09:23

Because he was hounding and harassing her, and threatened to stalk her until she talked to him.

Ironically, in the Netflix series when he wouldn't come to the wedding she was repeatedly trying to message him and get him to reply, he avoided replying and would not reply to any of her pleas.

Horse manure - Thats not the main reason and you know it, it was because he had sold out to the highest bidder.

He was hounding and harassing her but also ignoring her?!?

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 09/01/2023 09:26

CulturePigeon · 08/01/2023 14:20

Ticketyboots · Today 14:08

Agree with your post. I'm not a republican, but pro a slimmed-down, Scandinavian-style constitutional monarchy but anyone with humanity would surely find the awful behaviour of Harry and Meghan in the final years of Prince Philip and the Queen to be callous beyond belief.

Even if they had valid cause for complaint - and personally, I'm sceptical - then they could have dealt with it discreetly, within the family. The only conclusion you can draw is that they had an agenda and nothing was going to get in the way of their toxic publicity offensive.

And they both claim to be concerned about people's mental health!

@CulturePigeon then they could have dealt with it discreetly, within the family

They said repeatedly that they tried - repeatedly. And got no where. The OW interview was a last resort.