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Has anyone’s perception of Meghan changed…

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Harrysfrostbittentodger · 08/01/2023 09:44

due to Harry’s book?

I think the general consensus so far has been that Harry is emotionally damaged and a bit of a man child/idiot. I’ve also noticed a few comments on here that have said they’re starting to feel a bit sorry for her having to deal with said man child.

It will be interesting to hear other’s opinions on the matter.

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Movinghouseatlast · 08/01/2023 13:32

She thought she was going to be Grace Kelly, and you can't really blame her as it seems to me most Americans have a scewed view of royalty.

My view of her hasn't changed but my view of him has.

LolaSmiles · 08/01/2023 13:33

I've always wanted to like her. I think the absolute crux of it is that Harry didn't prepare her and she didn't expect the massive culture shock.

I got the sense at the funeral that she might have started to 'get it' in terms of the difference between celebrity and royalty.

I really think she thought she could be a Michelle Obama and didn't realise that royalty isn't political and that there would be restrictions on what she could do.

I still want to like her. I want them to be happy in a life they build for themselves. I don't think airing your dirties in public is the way to achieve that.
That's my view.
I had hoped they'd be a breath of fresh air to the royal family, but it didn't happen and the public are unlikely to find the trust behind that.

I don't like the rhetoric that nasty Meghan stole our lovable Harry.

AfterEightMintyCedric · 08/01/2023 13:34

I tended to the opinion that was somewhat responsible for Harry's behaviour.

These day I think they're a pair of damaged, immature and quite unpleasant people with no self-awareness who just bring out the worst in each other.

Elsiebear90 · 08/01/2023 13:35

No, I think they bring out the worst in each other, it’s become clear from his book that he’s always had a victim complex due to being the “spare” and is insanely competitive and jealous of his brother (by his own admission that he considers him his arch nemesis). Instead of encouraging him to reframe his view and find peace with his position in life (which is insanely privileged, but he can’t see that and just focuses on the negatives) she’s just encouraged and exploited it for her own gain, as she also seems to view herself as a perpetual victim who can do no wrong and has to always have everything how she wants it regardless of anyone or anything else.

I think they’re both jealous of William and Kate and their whole game plan is that since they can’t be king and queen they want to “ruin” it for them by taking down the whole establishment. They’re cutting off their own noses to spite their faces.

milti · 08/01/2023 13:35

No - they deserve each other

BrownJenkins · 08/01/2023 13:42

I didn't like or dislike her at first.
After everything that has happened, interviews etc. I am now seeing her as a manipulative person who uses anybody for her own gain.
My prediction is she will dump him once he has no more to give.
As for Harry, I think he has serious mental health issues and they won't improve whilst he is with her, she'll see to that.
I am pro monarchy and can never forgive either of them for the damage they are doing.
I honestly believe their behaviour contributed to the death of the Queen.

IAmJob84 · 08/01/2023 13:44

I wish them luck. I'd be pissed off if people I didn't know how massive options of me, based on gossip, sold for money. Horrible toxic environment, the media, the royal family. People are people and life is hard, regardless of our social status. Perhaps jealously is the main driver in option? Compassion is key, and I hope they find peace, just like the rest.

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 08/01/2023 13:45

I really dont like how she is being blamed for what he's said/written/published.

trucklebrunch · 08/01/2023 13:45

I initially presumed she was driving all this nastiness, I actually now think he us driving it and she is merely facilitating it and fanning the flames.

I don't think she's won anything by marrying him, I actually think she could've done a lot better and I believe she will eventually need to take her children and leave him for their well being.

Bbq1 · 08/01/2023 13:47

Harrysfrostbittentodger · 08/01/2023 09:44

due to Harry’s book?

I think the general consensus so far has been that Harry is emotionally damaged and a bit of a man child/idiot. I’ve also noticed a few comments on here that have said they’re starting to feel a bit sorry for her having to deal with said man child.

It will be interesting to hear other’s opinions on the matter.

No. She chose him. She controls him and the narrative . Not an iota of sympathy. She set out to snare him, she got him.

CoffeandTiaMaria · 08/01/2023 13:49

I didn’t take to her after their engagement interview, I thought there would be trouble after they said they were going to modernise the monarchy (what a nerve!), and I said so on here, getting well lambasted for doing so.
With everything going on now I think she’s duplicitous, manipulative and right behind everything Harry’s said/written.
I think she’ll drop him like a hot potato when she realises how badly this has gone.
As for Harry, I think he’s so lacking in insight that he’s got to be thicker than I thought. I suspect that the drug-taking has also affected his brain. Very sad, he needs help urgently but not from the hippy dippy crowd.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 08/01/2023 13:51

I think they’re both jealous of William and Kate and their whole game plan is that since they can’t be king and queen they want to “ruin” it for them by taking down the whole establishment. They’re cutting off their own noses to spite their faces

I don't think either of them have a game plan beyond getting 'their truth' out there and avenging what they see as their bad treatment by the RF and the media. I mean, if Harry gave himself the luxury of ten minutes rational thought, he'd recall that barring catastrophic accidents, he's never going to be king. He's clearly deeply jealous of his brother and has pushed that down for years - unfortunately that's now emerging in the least helpful and constructive way possible, largely I suspect because he hasn't dealt with it for years.

TiddyTidTwo · 08/01/2023 13:59

I used to this it was driven by Meghan but now it's definitely "6 of one, half a dozen of the other"

LindorDoubleChoc · 08/01/2023 13:59

Who think she is "extremely intelligent" @DogBowlsAreMyWeapon ?

Scoobydoobywho · 08/01/2023 14:01

Oh good God no. She lit the touch paper that is Harry and now everyone is watching him have an apparent public breakdown.

CulturePigeon · 08/01/2023 14:01

Only in the sense that my first impression was that she was a totally fake, saccharine Hollywood B-lister, and now I think she is a monumental, toxic 'piece of work'!

Ticketyboots · 08/01/2023 14:04

IAmJob84 · 08/01/2023 13:44

I wish them luck. I'd be pissed off if people I didn't know how massive options of me, based on gossip, sold for money. Horrible toxic environment, the media, the royal family. People are people and life is hard, regardless of our social status. Perhaps jealously is the main driver in option? Compassion is key, and I hope they find peace, just like the rest.

Many of us have built our opinions of them solely on direct, unfiltered, content that H&M have issued (and edited!) themselves.

The interviews, books, podcasts, docuseries etc.

These have been controlled and edited to be presented in their very best light …..

For me it’s the jarring hypocrisy of their faux compassion words against their self serving actions to monetise any opportunity.

CulturePigeon · 08/01/2023 14:04

CoffeandTiaMaria · Today 13:49
I didn’t take to her after their engagement interview, I thought there would be trouble after they said they were going to modernise the monarchy (what a nerve!), and I said so on here, getting well lambasted for doing so.
With everything going on now I think she’s duplicitous, manipulative and right behind everything Harry’s said/written.
I think she’ll drop him like a hot potato when she realises how badly this has gone.
As for Harry, I think he’s so lacking in insight that he’s got to be thicker than I thought. I suspect that the drug-taking has also affected his brain. Very sad, he needs help urgently but not from the hippy dippy crowd.

Spot on!

Yes - no arrogance there, then, Meghan and Harry! Just like the teenage intern who tells you how to improve your working methods on their first day...

Blueblell · 08/01/2023 14:05

I think she might find him a bit of a liability after this book. Probably the beginning of the end

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 08/01/2023 14:05

Yes - no arrogance there, then, Meghan and Harry! Just like the teenage intern who tells you how to improve your working methods on their first day...

The one who tells you in the interview 'I can solve your problems.' 🙄That's nice, dear, and what are they?

Ticketyboots · 08/01/2023 14:08

BrownJenkins · 08/01/2023 13:42

I didn't like or dislike her at first.
After everything that has happened, interviews etc. I am now seeing her as a manipulative person who uses anybody for her own gain.
My prediction is she will dump him once he has no more to give.
As for Harry, I think he has serious mental health issues and they won't improve whilst he is with her, she'll see to that.
I am pro monarchy and can never forgive either of them for the damage they are doing.
I honestly believe their behaviour contributed to the death of the Queen.

I am a republican and agree with you.

I wouldn’t say they contributed to The Queens death - but I do think the timing and content of the OW interview where PP was in the final weeks of his life was abhorrent action within any family. Callous.

Badger1970 · 08/01/2023 14:10

I think this book has just shown that Harry is just as toxic as Meghan.

They're a match made in hell.

SimonandGarfunkel · 08/01/2023 14:16

I must admit that when they got married I thought she would be a great addition to the RF.

Now I think she is probably narcissistic and not terribly intelligent or well informed about anything beyond her own celebrity world.

If she really does love H as much as she claims she would be helping him to confront his demons in private and supporting his reconciliation with his family. I agree that she has enabled him to feel persecuted by his family, and clearly as he is not terribly bright or indeed a very nice person (judging by that extract about the matron at school), together they are a very toxic combination.

SimonandGarfunkel · 08/01/2023 14:20

Another thing, which my DH (who generally couldn't be less interested in the RF or celebrity gossip if he tried) said is that why the hell aren't they thinking about the children (both theirs and W&K's). They are clearly so self absorbed that they can't appreciate the damage this will do to the next generation. Many of us carry unresolved grievances and emotional scars but if we have any sense we try to protect our DC from the fallout.

It's all so very sad.

CulturePigeon · 08/01/2023 14:20

Ticketyboots · Today 14:08

Agree with your post. I'm not a republican, but pro a slimmed-down, Scandinavian-style constitutional monarchy but anyone with humanity would surely find the awful behaviour of Harry and Meghan in the final years of Prince Philip and the Queen to be callous beyond belief.

Even if they had valid cause for complaint - and personally, I'm sceptical - then they could have dealt with it discreetly, within the family. The only conclusion you can draw is that they had an agenda and nothing was going to get in the way of their toxic publicity offensive.

And they both claim to be concerned about people's mental health!

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