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Has anyone’s perception of Meghan changed…

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Harrysfrostbittentodger · 08/01/2023 09:44

due to Harry’s book?

I think the general consensus so far has been that Harry is emotionally damaged and a bit of a man child/idiot. I’ve also noticed a few comments on here that have said they’re starting to feel a bit sorry for her having to deal with said man child.

It will be interesting to hear other’s opinions on the matter.

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Mamaneedsadrink · 08/01/2023 19:40

Mingmoo · 08/01/2023 19:30

I think loads of people felt sorry for them in a weirdly uncritical way after watching the six-episode ad for them that they created - it's PR! If you take a step back and look at how the UK media treat literally anyone in the public eye you can see they play favourites and that it's possible to earn their respect. Meghan seems to be very impatient and wanted everything to fall into her lap immediately. That's not how it works. I'm not British but live in the UK and it's a very different kind of culture here that she needed to understand and accept instead of flouncing. But I think Harry's obsessive need for everyone else to adore her the way he does is a sign of something very unhealthy in him. I fear it will all end in tragedy.

Fair enough not to like either of them, I don't either.
It's disingenuous to say she's been treated the same by the media as anyone else. The British media is abhorrent in general, and the British public should be ashamed that allow this (if anything create and sustain it, without the public demand it would not exist). No other country has such low 'journalism'

Newwardrobe · 08/01/2023 19:43

I haven't read the book, obviously but I really liked her to start with until the wedding, when she looked at him at the altar and I thought 'she's acting' .

Els1e · 08/01/2023 19:43

Not really. When they both renounce their titles is when I’ll believe they have integrity.

Teatime55 · 08/01/2023 19:48

Or complaining about their children’s titles. You would think they would want no titles for them.

pilates · 08/01/2023 19:49

No. Anyone in their right mind would have said to Harry this is not a good idea but sadly it appears she is adding fuel to the fire in a sick attempt to gain publicity. I know, I know, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

FromEden · 08/01/2023 19:49

I think they both thought everyone would finally see them for the victims they believe they are when in actual fact the car crash of a book has had the opposite effect

That's their problem, they can't accept that not everyone buys their version of events, or thinks they are victims. Therefore we will be subjected to more and more moaning in an attempt to change people's mind. They literally cannot conceive that they are in the wrong, even when some of the excerpts from the book clearly point to them being at fault, they can't see it. It's really bizarre, like they are in the grip of a 'folie a deux'.

TheUsualChaos · 08/01/2023 19:58

Wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt but it does seem that she has cut him off from his family by paying the victim act and turning him against them. I think as she didn't easily fit in with Harry's close family she went with the "they're all against me act" instead. Harry is easily caught up in it all as he's clearly got plenty of issues, she has manipulated and gaslit him. Highly doubt they will still be married in 10 years time or even 5. And now he's probably cut himself off from his family for good. As idiotic as he is coming across right now, I think my sympathy still lies with Harry. She wasn't ever good for him.

Nanalisa60 · 08/01/2023 20:00

I know, I know, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

I think there is , telling the world you killed 25 Taliban is very bad publicity , you only need one lone muslin mad man to decide he is going to make a martyr of himself and something terrible will happen.
but of course it won’t be Harry’s fault because nothing ever is.

Musomama1 · 08/01/2023 21:05

I felt like I could see where they were both coming from after the Netflix documentary, I also thought Meghan came out a bit better than him. He's lost friends whereas her crew would do anything for her. Also, unlike Harry she's been very diplomatic about her family, especially her Dad, she hasn't really said anything!

I like her, she's definitely a tad self important but as the doc showed she's always been that way - she reminds me of Reece Witherspoon in Election.

I felt the show was a bit of revenge for his family endorsing negative stories and press leaks against them. Plus a way to take the money and be financially independent.

Harry's definitely had more to lose and I do wonder the wisdom of having Harry go warts and all in his book.

TheCraicDealer · 08/01/2023 21:12

No. By Harry’s own account, her saying Kate had “baby brain”, announcing a pregnancy at someone else’s wedding, accepting freebies, nevermind bullying rumours which had so much basis it (allegedly) made William rock up to their house to confront him, resentment at the size/quality of their free accomodation which was always temporary anyway- none of those things are painting a picture of someone I’d have much sympathy with. That’s before you even start addressing the inconsistencies between Harry’s written account and, say, the Oprah interview. For example, telling Oprah they’d wanted a modest wedding and then Harry admitting he’d proposed Westminster Abbey and St Paul’s to William as venues. Saying they couldn’t access MH care for Meghan when was pregnant, but admitting he had his therapist on speed dial after his bust up with Willy. They’ve both shown themselves to be unreliable historians, fuelling each other’s ire rather than encouraging one another to take a step back. Rather than a terrific love story it actually seems very toxic.

Her relationships to date have always appeared a bit transactional and follow a pattern of cutting people out as soon as they no longer serve a purpose. Sadly for Harry I think he’s on borrowed time. Even if this book makes bank he’s lost a hell of a lot of credibility, and she will resent that and the impact on her own aspirations.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 08/01/2023 21:21

I don't even see that writing this book is in any way cathartic. He just seems to have such deep wells of bitterness and anger against his family that it probably hasn't helped him at all. It seems to be an inexhaustible flow of bone-deep resentment about everything in his life.

nonono1 · 08/01/2023 22:03

No other country has such low 'journalism'

I don't think that's true. To cite just two examples, it was French paparazzi who followed Diana on the night of her death, and who took the topless pictures of Kate.

ArseInTheDogBowl · 08/01/2023 22:11

nonono1 · 08/01/2023 22:03

No other country has such low 'journalism'

I don't think that's true. To cite just two examples, it was French paparazzi who followed Diana on the night of her death, and who took the topless pictures of Kate.

Agree @nonono1 - perhaps we should devote some attention to the US tabloid press- I clearly remember their treatment of Britney Spears in 2007/8

DoubleShotEspresso · 08/01/2023 22:21

Stepuptowardsinfinity · 08/01/2023 10:17

No, she's ghastly. A not very bright, minor actress, who thought she'd be the superstar of the royal family and when she found out not only was she not but she'd have to work hard at boring jobs like opening supermarkets, she threw her toys out of the pram, screaming racism. Harry is clearly a deeply damaged man, also not very bright. They both see themselves as the eternal victims, which is never attractive.

Actually she embraced many visits and made significantly positive impacts.
She visited Grenfell , rolled her sleeves up in the kitchen, went away and wrote a cookbook following the experience and visited privately again for catch ups (with no cameras). That one cookbook generated huge amounts of money for Grenfell survivors who still speak highly of her today.
She also set up a clothing bank for women returning to the workplace which helped many...
This along with other supporting roles in the arts... think your comment is grossly innacurate and unfair here. She was willing to work hard I believe but drew the line at being subjected to vile abuse and vexatious stories from the very people she considered she had sacrificed much for.

Mamaneedsadrink · 08/01/2023 22:59

nonono1 · 08/01/2023 22:03

No other country has such low 'journalism'

I don't think that's true. To cite just two examples, it was French paparazzi who followed Diana on the night of her death, and who took the topless pictures of Kate.

And why do you think this was? It's wasn't the French who were obsessed with Diana? It is the high prices paid for paparazzi pictures that the British media demands. I don't even know why people can't just admit that this is warped

pattihews · 08/01/2023 23:07

She's going to be like Wallis Simpson. Married a prince and was then forced to spend the rest of her life with an unimaginative, bitter, snobbish, self-pitying, dependant boor. The parallels are extraordinary, down to the clinginess. I'm guessing that Meghan will file for divorce within two years. She knows she married a dud. The truth has yet to dawn on him.

bloodyplanes · 08/01/2023 23:31

@DoubleShotEspresso yep it must have been real hard work writing messages on bananas for sex workers 🙄

BasiliskStare · 08/01/2023 23:42

I was reminded of this . So Meghan what first attracted you to a multimillionaire Prince of the Realm - Now that Is a joke & I truly hope they are both happy - but the more it goes on - the more I think they are winding themselves up for money & they don't need too much more so I am less of a fan of them.

WorriedWarrier · 09/01/2023 00:14

ZellyFitzgerald · 08/01/2023 10:00

I do feel sorry for her, but more so for their children.

He doesn't appear to have a winning personality (without all the palace spin) so the draw of him must have been his prince status.

I have a feeling she wanted him, she got him, and will end up regretting it.

Yes looks wise they aren’t matched. He’s a goofy English man who has no mates in America and can’t handle the sun.

WorriedWarrier · 09/01/2023 00:15

Most people don’t know she’s a divorcee

EpicChaos · 09/01/2023 03:03

I have a very low opinion of them both!
He's jealous and bitter because he'll never be king, well harry, if you ever read this, ask yourself, why the hell would we want you as king?!
Look at you, you're a scruffy, spoilt, nasty, entitled, man child that comes across like Norman Bates! You lack all of those things you never seem to tire of complaining about in other people - self awareness, compassion, generosity, etc., etc., etc.
And as for her, the misleading way she complained about the kids title, hinting it was down to racial reasons, that was a disgraceful thing to do!
The whole laying on of hands thing at Dianas' grave, i find that to just be sick and manipulative. There are many other examples that lead me to having a low opinion of her but I find those 2 things particularly hard to stomach.
Anyhoo, i wouldn't give tuppence ha'penny for either of them!

PrestonHood121 · 09/01/2023 03:34

She and Harry announced their pregnancy at his cousins’ wedding. Both of them deluded.

BasiliskStare · 09/01/2023 04:08

Not necessarily Meghan but I do think Harry has shot his bolt. Various military people have said he's behaved badly in the book , Surely if Meghan was as media savvy as I reckon she thinks she is she would have advised against this.

I watch things - I do because they are taking pot shots at the BRF - without proper justification , & the BRF has some merits - I think & I may be wrong . Many people will disagree with me

I did ( & I think I have said this before ) I took some umbrage with H&M implying all British people are racist because Meghan is mixed race. ( The H&M series where they used Brexit footage & a very poor excerpt about colonies from the time of QEI )

I wish them well - but can they leave us alone . Of course all they have to sell at the moment is Harry's family - but ye Gods - enough

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 09/01/2023 04:21

7Worfs · 08/01/2023 09:55

No.
The whole navel-gazing and re-examining his entire life (and every single interaction with William, Kate, Charles) and rewriting history where he is always victimised by his family coincided with MM entering his life.
She turned him from a spoiled, partying lad into a paranoid, angry shell of a human. He is now somehow convinced his whole life up until he met her was a lie and everyone is out to get him.

Yeah, this.

custardbear · 09/01/2023 04:26

No, she lies to suit her own narrative. She's manipulative and suspect she's keen to keep Harry down so she can wipe the floor with him when she divorced him, takes the kids and his money