Has anyone’s perception of Meghan changed…

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due to Harry’s book?

I think the general consensus so far has been that Harry is emotionally damaged and a bit of a man child/idiot. I’ve also noticed a few comments on here that have said they’re starting to feel a bit sorry for her having to deal with said man child.

It will be interesting to hear other’s opinions on the matter.

Really wanted to like her and did initially. Family is American and I’m no royalist… then I read a bit of her blog and thought good grief… she is queen of the humblebrag, a classic the trouble with me is that I’m too giving type of person. It does feel crappy judging a person I don’t know, but having read her own writing nothing in the book is likely to change my opinion of her, however unfair.

Even the origins of the title of the blog 😂
There are therapists out there who help you accept and integrate your humble origins with your grandest aspirations without compromising them.

Yes. Initially was happy for them. The tone deaf interview in Africa, that and how easily she cut out her own dad after apparently being close with him, red flags. Still gave benefit of doubt. As a poc myself, did buy into the racism accusations, to a point and think this made me more sympathetic towards them, as I’ve experienced racism. But did also find it jarring they started to omit how welcoming the royal family and public had been initially and in addition to some of the bad press, there was also good press. Also their hypocrisy started to become too obvious. All that guff about being eco warriors whilst living a hyper capitalist lifestyle, climate change shaming others whilst flying everywhere themselves, lecturing women on feminism and bimbo tropes but happy to exploit all that when it made her money, happy to exploit royal institution too whilst it paid out but then suddenly started to lecture about colonialism and Ill gotten wealth as soon as they stopped paying out. If that blood money had really offended them, they wouldn’t have petitioned Willy and Charles to be part of the fab 4. They would have set up independently from the beginning and quietly made a point to distance themselves from it all. And how have they only realised now the commonwealth is a colonial throwback. It’s like a jilted immature ex who tells you suddenly the never liked anything about you anyway just because you’ve said no to them. Thought the press had made up a lot of the stuff about them, his books ended up showing these events did happen and even his sanitised spin on the stories doesn’t
work in their favour besides don’t think his versions are true. They’ve been written to fit their new narrative. It’s also made me think the bullying accusations against her are real indeed. Palace is wrong to hide that report should be released. He’s also ended up humanising Charles and William for me, and I’ve never liked them previously especially William. Now I feel sorry for him for having to be emotionally enmeshed and responsible in an unhealthy way with his mum and brother. Too much pressure for anyone.
The way he describes his wife all the way up on that pedestal and the magical thinking and pretty much saying she is his mum, v worrying. And that scene of her on Diana’s grave communing with a woman she never met, v manipulative. And telling him after an argument that he must have heard another man speak like that, is planting seeds and pushing him towards not taking responsibility when he’s rude. Not healthy. No wonder she’s encouraged all that cali woo pseudo spirituality, easier to get into his head. Shocked he’s inadvertently revealed that level of manipulation.

It can’t go unnoticed that he wasn’t a complete car crash before she came into his life. Her own family dynamics speak volumes. Two damaged, tone deaf, narcissistic souls found each other and here we are. Kaboom. 💣

I thought she was a very intelligent woman, even if I could see why others didn't warm to her. I now see that she isn't, not at all.

Never particularly liked Harry and I did wonder why she wanted to marry him. It's become clear she didn't understand. Again, lack of innate intelligence or curiosity.

Maybe the USA are reading the kill number in a positive way???? Presumably that is what H&M anticipated?

No. It has just confirmed my original opinion of her. However, i didnt think Harry would write such stuff about his family and cause all this trouble

No, still dislike her.
Dislike him even more now though too.

I don't think it's changed my opinion of her as such. I think she spent many years hustling - I don't mean that in a derogatory way, as that's what an actress/influencer has to do to progress their career. She was badly prepared for royal life (by Harry), thought she had 'made it' and never really got that royalty is not just another type of celebrity hustle - whatever she did, however popular she was, she and Harry would only ever be minor royals and just not in the same league as William and Kate. But that's primogeniture for you and it's simply not the same as celebrity. There's no reward for being 'the best' and lots on 'unearned' reward for being born first. So they left and then the hustle became leveraging their royal/ex royal status and experiences into A list celebratory status.

I don't dislike her as such. I think it's mostly been a clash of cultures and expectations, but I do think Harry is going to come off badly however it all pans out. I think if she is looking for a route out - either now or in the future - then this book and the danger it puts her and the kids in re the 'kill count' provides a very sympathetic 'start of the end' narrative should she choose to take it.

I thought she was a very intelligent woman, even if I could see why others didn't warm to her. I now see that she isn't, not at all.

Yes, arrogance and the power of persuasion can certainly appear to come across as bona fide intelligence. He’s a plank. She’s relatively book smart. Neither of them have much, if any, emotional intelligence between them. And they are textbook narcissists enabling each other.
That’s my armchair analysis anyway. 😁
The wheels have come off, that’s for sure. It would truly suck to be either one of them.

Ah but putting it all on Twitter doesn't get you £36million does it?🙄

No - I think they’re as bad as each other.

From what I've seen of her, I don't really like her but I do feel sorry for her for being married to the man described in the book. But then I think she must have known all this stuff about him and what an arse he really is and she chose to marry him and have two children with him anyway so really she doesn't need any sympathy. She must be fine with him exactly how he is.

I do feel sorry for W, because it must be devastating to realise that a brother that you thought loved you and had your back secretly despises you, is still jealous of you and wants to destroy the institution that you stand for.

I'm not sure that she is book smart. Her quotes are very typical of the ones influencers drag up online from memes. She could be persuaded to sit down and read a book if she was booked to interview the author but that intellectual brilliance and ease simply never was there.

No my perception of her hasn't changed at all, nor of him.

Except in their Netflix doc they said the blind date thing was actually a lie…

Would you let your husband/partner/loved one publish a book containing some of these details without trying to persuade them it wasn’t in their interests? Perhaps she did try. We may never know.

This

Yes, partly.

I still think she's a typical "actress" in that she has a desperate need for validation and need to be admired and loved, and therefore reacts badly to any type of criticism.

I do feel sorry for her. Her husband is an immature, impulsive, infantilised man who's never matured past the age of 12. He never fully prepared her for what marriage to him would be like, and built up how important she would be.

As a C list level actor she was not prepared for the level of press intrusion & public scrutiny she would be faced with, though she obviously thought she was (as did he).

Neither seem to be adults who grew up hearing the word No and set off the worse in each other IMO.

I think she was rude & abrasive to staff as she had no experience in being in that position and seems to be under the impression these were her personal employees/PAs (in the celeb sense of PAs she would have been aware of in film/tv world), rather than employees of "The Firm" who all had clear boundaries for their roles. And Harry didn't help her understand this but just blamed everyone else.

I think she completely underestimated what the expectations of what a Senior Royal role meant and was a bit arrogant (due to Harry) that she could just "wing it and get away with it".

I'm wondering if Harry hadn't explained to his family just how serious he felt about her, so W&K may have appeared a bit standoffish as they thought maybe she's just another girlfriend, lets see how this goes before being too open with her? I can see how a "Hollywood lovey type" could initially come across as very forward. Harry said in the book that W&K were big fans of Suits and therefore of her (🙄), so maybe she was expecting them to be all gushing? I mean, they've met plenty of MASSIVE stars before...Tom Cruise level.
Suits is, well, not that. And I say that as a fan of the show.

I've started to think Harry is the issue here overall.

I still think she is a sharp operator, and that the two of them are troubled and bring out the worst in each other. But I can understand why people are starting to have some sympathy with her, because it sounds like living with H must be hard work. Moral of the story for M.... "be careful what you wish for"!

Of course she must have proof-read the book. So, why DID she let her husband publish a book that will earn billions, makes him look crazy, and paints a terrorist target on her and their children?

Is Netflix planning a new TV series in which an unhappy princess escapes from a castle to save her life, becomes a lawyer to divorce a deranged prince , gains custody of the kids to protect their lives from terrorists, and scores a ginormous alimony settlement.

That will depend a fair bit on whether she approved the 'kill count' passage or not. There's so many unknowns. But they are now known unknowns iyswim.

He has certainly gone down in my estimation massively. Talk about sibling rivalry wrapped in a an oedipus complex ...

If you listen to her podcast, she’s learned, in a sort of copy and paste way with the added ‘Carrie Bradshaw voiceover’ effect, how to appear smart. In this way, she’s book smart. She’s learned the ropes, learned by rote, how to engineer Meghan Markle.

Yes, I’ve worn the hair shirt and caved- listened to her podcast. It is unlistenable. When you have the likes of Tami Simon talking to Gabor Mate, why would anyone choose to listen to some two-bit L.A. girl with a tiara blowing psychpop bubbles to the strains of Mariah Carey blowing smoke up her backside? It is nauseating. “You’re a DI-VUH!!!” It’s for the Goop Vagina Candle burners, Meg’s podcast is.
I’m from Los Angeles and cannot handle when my kind take to the air to spout Muzak Wizdumb. Don’t listen to anyone from L.A… is my advice… but just hear me out! 😆

Found her a bit rude with the baby brain comment. Also find having to share lipgloss disgusting.

I agree. Regardless of what she thinks, he fanbase will not be in her home state. Many of her brilliant ideas which absolutely fascinate her UK supporters are basically old and recycled news 🙄🙄to West Coast Americans. She has traded on that massively.