Justine has called anti-Meghan sentiment here deranged

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In the Telegraph today got to be worth a thread of its own. She is of course right !

And what was not said when the papers and critics of the RF jumped to accuse them of racism was…anything from Harry, despite him complaining bitterly about them not correcting reports (as yet unidentified) in the media. Perhaps he’s determined to get his own back in some way - although on this occasion we know what was said and subsequently not corrected.

Have they said whether they’re handling back the award for challenging racism - because what I inferred from their award acceptance was that they were accepting it for their work around racism rather than unconscious bias.

I haven't read the thread but FYI unconscious racism is still racism

And what do you think unconscious bias is?

He didn’t say unconscious racism @novella, he was very careful to distance himself from the r word. He said unconscious bias.

@Novella4 sorry, tagged the wrong poster

If you’re talking to me I said “unconscious bias”.

That was my take on it too after watching the OW,show as I recall Meghan said there were concerns raised about how dark the babies skin might be .

I wasn’t

They're the ones who start the threads you all sit weeing on your keyboard and throwing tea on your children about while begging for updates.

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Isn't Harry just white-splaining by reframing it as unconscious bias?

It's not really up to a white middle aged man to say what is and isn't racism, even if he has been with a bi-racial partner for a few years, it's not his live experience. It's a bit

He’s not “reframing” it though is he, he’s specifying.

I thought “silence is betrayal” though? Why did he wait two years to specify this?

They specified that they weren’t referring to the Queen of Prince Phillip the day after the interview aired, so it was perfectly possible.

So a white male who does not explicitly label his white family as racist is compelling evidence that they are not racist, despite historic events and facts, and several more recent incidents and comments involving non-white individuals and collective groups who have indeed experienced racism directly and indirectly from the royal family and their aides? I see how that could make sense to some Mnetters. Such a comment is well-placed on this thread. It further supports its founder’s assessment of parts of the site’s audience. Also, it’s amazing how some individuals are very selective in what they choose to believe from H&M’s interviews – whatever fits the narrative that they’ve created about the couple. Well, for one thing, we know these actions aren’t 'unconscious bias'.

it’s amazing how some individuals are very selective in what they choose to believe from H&M’s interviews

It’s very difficult to know what to believe when they contradict themselves so often. How do you decide which interview contains the truth?

The thoughts of the the “deranged” Meghan obsessives are no-one’s responsibility but their own.

On the one hand the ”deranged” crew say they want M&H to shut up and don’t believe a word they say. And now you demand they should have said more - but you wouldn’t have believed anyway? What’s the point?

It’s also interesting to know that the only person who is able to tell the world the intent of the people making the comments is someone who wasn’t actually there when they were made, too.

The Sussexes complete and utter lack of credibility to anyone who isn’t one of their obsessive fans is a problem of their own making.

I’m not a “fan” of theirs any more than I am fan of the monarchy or the deranged mob.

Well anyone who posts incessantly about a couple they neither know nor like is certainly well placed to discuss obsessive behaviour.

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Sometimes I despair

“The difference between racism and unconscious bias … the two things are different,” Harry, 38, continued. “Once it’s been acknowledged or pointed out to you as an individual, otherwise an institution, that you have unconscious bias, you have an opportunity to learn and grow from that … otherwise unconscious bias then moves into the category of racism”

So it’s different according to Harry - although unconscious bias can become racism it wasn’t in this particular example.

It’s also interesting to know that the only person who is able to tell the world the intent of the people making the comments is someone who wasn’t actually there when they were made, too

Interesting too that some of those trying hardest to explain away Harry's disgraceful behaviour here are the very ones who insisted at the time that their comments "proved the RF is racist"

Strange that they saw "proof" if racism really wasn't what was being implied, but no stranger than the lengths some will go to in an attempt to shore up Harry's vanished credibility