Will the RF ever respond?

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Never complain, never explain. But do we think there will be a time that someone will have to say something? The whole thing is just so, so sad 💔 I feel dreadfully sorry for KC

Forstbitten cock? I haven’t heard this one.

I don't understand how you can see this stuff and not think Harry has lost the plot. There's nothing gaslighty about it, except perhaps your denial of it @goodbyestranger !

A lot of people find it gaslighty. And I have to say that it's predictable too. It does show that the opposition is worried however. It's incredibly weak try to upend that by saying that an observation of gaslighting is itself gaslighty. You'll need to do better than that.

The extracts of the book which have been discussed in the press don't make it sound as though it would be my read of choice and I've no interest in who Harry first slept with or where etc etc but there are serious allegations, particularly the briefing against Harry, which I very much hope undermines the institution. The Palace is clearly rattled about damage and serious commentators and journalists have said on broadcasts and in the broadsheets that Harry's allegations need answers. No one of any stature would say that publicly if the allegations were made by someone who had 'evidently lost the plot'.

Incidentally the cost of the rf is way in excess of 35 million and very close to the 350 million stated earlier.

What an easy world it would be for us all if we weren't ever accountable and could hide behind the ludicrous mantra 'Never complain, never explain', and could cast doubt on all aspersions against us with the patronising 'Recollections may vary'. We could get away with anything, as this bunch do. There's no dignity in fiddling with legislation and opting out of taxes or being institutionally racist or covering up misdeeds with negative briefings against a more minor royal. I think there may be a suitable description for those things, but it certainly isn't 'dignified', imo.

The Palace is clearly rattled about damage and serious commentators and journalists have said on broadcasts and in the broadsheets that Harry's allegations need answers

Can we have some links then? Because everything I’ve read in the broadsheets has been based on eye rolling. What allegations anyway?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64175772

There's one for you Blossomtoes, just read the broadsheets yourself instead of asking for links.

It suggests that you're making your own comments without bothering to inform yourself from serious sources. Although tbf your massively scaled down estimate of the cost to the public of the rf suggests you may need to find out a little bit more than you currently do.

The BBC isn’t a broadsheet and its royal correspondent is hardly a serious commentator. The reason I asked for a link is because I read three broadsheets every day and there’s been nothing that meets your description. I told you that when I requested the link that you seem to be unable to supply.

Why would the RF address the accusations they were briefing against Meghan.

’No, we didn’t’ isn’t going to cut it for people who think they did.

The translations may be a bit off, but during the dog bowl incident Harry accused William of believing the press. So he can’t have thought William and Kate were the ones briefing the press. Because he thought it was the other way round. William being taken in by the press.

So who does he think was doing it?

I wish they'd respond to support their staff against they're (PH & MM) claims of racism and bullying.

The BBC employs reputable journalists Blossomtoes, as I'm sure you're aware.

There are a myriad of comments being made across the well respected media, many of which are saying that the Palace needs to address allegations of negative briefing and few of which are going down the gaslighting route of saying Harry is unwell. Find them yourself, it's not hard.

The rf can't deny accusations of negative briefing without outright lying since so many journalists know the truth. And they're not going to admit it, obviously. The silence is pretty much the same thing however. Quite the dilemma but long overdue.

The BBC isn’t a broadsheet

I offered the first easy link which was to the BBC and then said read the broadsheets.

Also, if you read as much as you claim, how can you have got the cost of the rf to the public so massively wrong? It's ten times the amount you claim - hundreds of millions out.

The BBC employs reputable journalists Blossomtoes, as I'm sure you're aware.

What like Martin Bashir and Andrew Gilligan 😂

It really isn’t. Unlike you I’m happy to supply supporting evidence - and not from a BBC royal correspondent (they’re not credible journalists). If you have a broadsheet source, let’s have it.

britishheritage.com/royals/royal-family-cost-british-taxpayer

I’m really hope they do not, there is nothing they can say that won’t make it worse, they need to maintain a dignified silence and ignore it. Commenting and breathing more air into this would be the worst thing they can do

they need to get on with their jobs and lives and not feed it, as should we by not buying that book and rewarding them with our money

That just says there is an unanswered aspect (actually there are many)

But it doesn't say that the Palace should respond.

Nutters are best ignored.

HFW it pretty much says just that.

Still, people can form their own opinion of what the silence means. In a court, it wouldn't be a good look.

This is rather cringe,

it’s the very definition of a family dispute, this isn’t about an employee complaining about conditions. And when you post costs then also post how much they make the uk in terms of tourism and how much a president would cost us.

im all good with anti monarchists, but only when it’s a reasoned argument, not something silly like this

If this were an allegation made against a government department, a political party, a business or a football team in the public eye, a response would be expected.
The lack of any response or denial would be taken by many as an admission that the allegation was true.

To misquote Willy, this is very much not just a family dispute.

The lack of any response or denial would be taken by many as an admission that the allegation was true

But that is exactly why never complain never explain was the policy. Because they can't possibly deny every random story that appears about them, they don't have the legal capacity. It's like the conspiracy theory that they are all lizards. Are they supposed to come out and say "we deny the allegation that we are lizards". Obviously not.

I think it’s best the RF don’t respond. Too much information (personal) has been shared by H and it’s stuff the public didn’t need to know about, and was always going to attract the attention of the gutter press.

Nothing that the RF can say about those moments…

How H can be pleased with himself with the outcome is anyone’s guess.

However I hope both of them sit down and seriously consider the Taliban implication and their personal safety. He should never have been publicly so dismissive of the killings. I understand the people who represent us at war time face challenges and situations most of us will never experience, but less said should have been best said as far as the future safety of his family goes…

Best to just not respond. A statement has previously been issued that covers it all “recollections may vary”.

To respond further just invites a response that then can require a further response and just is unedifying public bickering. Stand tall and rise above it is the tactic any professional PR would advise.

There’s already so much hypocritical claptrap that’s been spouted from PH that shows him in such a dim light that to respond to this nonsense is just stooping too low. Privately though there must be a lot of hurt, anger and frustration at this whole farce. But it’s a farce at the end of the day.

Harry is woefully incapable of understanding this. He doesn’t even understand that by highlighting his wife’s bullying and rudeness issues raised by others that he’s actually admitting there were problems on that front.

He’s cooked his goose now. I can’t even see what future career path these two now have as they just look toxic. It’s hard to see genuine American celebrities and movers and shakers drawing them into their orbit either as their airing of such ridiculous dirty laundry in public is very unedifying. Perceived slights over lipgloss, tiaras, best man speeches, falling on dog bowls etc isn’t exactly refined is it?

As Harry isn’t a working Royal I think it doesn’t need a public response. There’s a lot wrong with the monarchy and some reform is needed. Long overdue. The Queen was t going to change but Charles needs to start.

It’s too complex. Has too many protocols and rules. I imagine an encyclopedic mind is needed to understand it all. They have far too many houses and the monarchy is far too attached to the past. Charles won’t do much as he enjoys numerous houses and everyone jumping to attention. He is far too attached to the memory of his mother to do much. No one tells them anything completely truthful either. Just what they want to hear.

They need to jettison lots of their uniforms, customs and staff. Why have an 82 year old greeting people? Why not have someone relevant to the event?

However, a president in place of the monarchy won’t work. Look at a possible choice of excruciating candidates! We are often better off with the devil we know. But that devil needs reform. Simple ceremonies. No days snd days of mourning. No grandiose funerals or coronations. No unearned uniforms and umpteen titles. We need their support for all things uk, constitutional input and general interest in charities and causes. We don’t need constant scandals and recriminations. We don’t need tit for tat exchanges. We certainly don’t want any more Harry memoirs.