I am genuinely worried for Harry's mental health now after this

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Give it another week of worldwide chewing over his words and all the drama it's creating, I'm genuinely worried for Harry. How can you go anywhere and hold your head up after you've opened yourself to such ridicule? He might want an un-royal life but he is a prince non-the-less. Where's the dignity? He really, really needs help. I sincerely hope it gets it. The fallout from this won't be forgotten in a hurry. And to top it off, how can he make his family truly secure now?

So Harry just made his children's lives immeasurably more difficult and less secure, by - inadvertently or advertently - being perceived to have goaded the Taliban. How could he? Seriously, where is the duty of care to those young children?

His own former colleagues are disgusted and understandably so.

Are we to believe that no-one got sight of the manuscript of this book and thought to edit the Taliban 'kill' reference? Unforgiveable.

Another reason why it’s just not adding up for me 🤔

Yes and the publishers and lawyers and his hanger oners and his Omid Scobie type yes man and his wife are guilty too. They should have piped up especially about the Taliban killing

I've thought for a long time both Harry and Meghan have mental health issues. After Harry's revaluation about killing 25 Taliban and thinking of them as chess pieces I think he and his family will need to double their security. I doubt they will ever feel secure again. Think about Salman Rushdie. He was never safe again after comments he made. The military are also furious with Harry and I'm not sure he can cope mentally with them turning against him too. He should just keep quiet and stay away from the press but being Harry he will do the opposite. He will just make matters worse and worse for himself.

I hope his family can be the bigger people and step in. He’s going to need them. I don’t think he’ll be able to handle everyone mocking him. And I think she’s too self absorbed and obsessed with her own narrative. If that hadn’t been the case she would never have let it get to this stage with his family. Whilst she has a history of being estranged and is prob better accustomed to it, he’d always had a close knit family and friend group. He took it all for granted and hasn’t realised he needs them. His reaction fo his brother getting married says it all. Even that was seen as a sad event and triggered his abandonment fears but he doesn’t seem to be aware enough to realise that as he’s recollecting it.

What i find funny is watching people even on this thread woth thw subkect pf harry stiol somehow making what harry is doing about mm.how is Harry talk,book,interviews still being brought back round to mm.its her fault.still.somehow. it just has to be.somehow.
No it f* doesn't! The woman can't win.whne she shuts up when she talks,even when her husband talks it's still wrong,still her fault and she's this evil woman.
I do think Harry is poorly.
And actually that is partly down to the royal machine being what it is not havong that.mnetal health suport whbe he needed it.with mental illness its always always better to get in there as quick as you can.the longer you leave it the worse it gets. So if this started whbe he was young his poor head has just spiralled since .
So now,even with the help he might have access to with his ill health being as it is it's not now that easy for him to access that support.

I don’t think she’s evil. I just think they’re both too self absorbed to be properly supportive of the other. They should have given each other truth talks. Instead they’ve clearly pumped each other up over non events regarding family interactions. That’s what the extracts have revealed. Storms in tea cups which they could have nipped in the bud. They should have called each other out in a nice way and smoothed things over. Instead look how it’s escalated and where they’ve ended up. They could have still left but also kept it civil and kept bridges up. He’s even ended up figuring her proxy wars in his book, belittling others and trying v hard to paint her as perfect. It’s ended up sounding hyperbolic outlandish and petty. Backfired. If only someone had had the courage to tell him how stupid it would be to include anecdotes about his penis. And how dangerous to detail his kill number. All that being included speaks for itself on how no one including his wife calls him out when they should.

And it works both ways. He’s been too self absorbed and focussed on recasting her as his mother, that he neglected her needs too. When she was struggling mentally he now admits he wasn’t as supportive as he should have been. He was busy thinking about how it looked (I.e. making it abound himself). That’s why their relationship doesn’t seem helathy.

He can hide if he likes but there are still two interviews coming out on Sunday. Everything said in them is going to be ripped apart based on what has been leaked about the book, rather than being said to encourage the public into buying the book.

The book js supposed to be under lock and key when those interviews air.

@moscowmules circumcised defrosted penis

Sorry but your casually writing this really set me off laughing hard. It was frostbitten, though I suppose he would eventually have had to let it defrost.

I think Harry clearly has mental health issues. Probably both from circumstances and genetics: Diana's mental health issues predated Charles, and Charles (going against his family's stiff upper lip wishes) desperately sought her mental health help to make their marriage work but Diana publicly condemned the idea of therapy/therapists on record many times. To the point that Charles himself started seeing the therapist to cope with Diana's rages, physical violence, etc.

Please don't get me wrong, no doubt Diana was a good person, just with mental illness, but a lot of martyring due to how she tragically passed away and her public charity ("healing" careers and charitable pursuits actually disproportionately common in BPD sufferers due to fear of abandonment etc).

But I don't think this is as bonkers as it looks? Maybe he's just misjudged his audience. Americans are prudish in general.

The cheeky upper/middle class sector of the UK Harry was maybe visualising obviously aren't lapping his sob story up.

Meanwhile the Americans who think H&M are so brave and so strong — which contrary to British public sentiment/media, is many if not most Americans — are easily scandalised.

Scandalised by talk of sex / drinks / etc

Genuinely, is lots of penis talk really necessary for the grand unveiling of a conspiracy?

Didn’t know that about Charles. I’ve ended up warming to him with all these recent revelations.

Yes you could be right he’s misjudged the tone or maybe it’s not resonating with me as I’m not the target audience. He’s not a mischievous school boy retelling jokes and japes so to me the anecdotes fell flat. Especially sandwiched in with some heavy stuff and some really weird 🦇 💩 too

I am genuinely worried for Harry's mental health now after this
We should be, he's been ensnared by a narcissist.

I have to disagree that Meghan let all this happen. I think it's fairly clear she made all this happen. I reckon Harry just wanted a quiet life in Africa away from the cameras but she wanted to live the life of the Hollywood elite in a mansion surrounded by clothes that would cost what the average person would earn in several years.

Genuinely, is lots of penis talk really necessary for the grand unveiling of a conspiracy?

😂😂😂

From what I gathered from previous threads, Harry was planning to write a tell-all book. I’m assuming that it now has been published. I’m not sure if I’m misremembering, but didn’t Harry try to pause the publishing when either QE2/Prince Philip passed away? But then there was mention of the book being published anyway because Harry had a book deal?

Anyway, I don’t think one can blame Meghan as Harry has control over his own actions. However, that being said, either Harry is receiving poor counsel or he’s just choosing to listen to people that only agree with him and ignore those who speak sound reason? Because if everything that’s been referred to in this thread is actually in Harry’s book, nobody in their right mind would advocate for the things that he seems to be sharing.

Harry and Meghan just need to go away from the media spotlight for a long time, work on their philanthropic actions and live very private lives. They might be happier this way.

Salacious stories sells in the short-term, but eventually he will run out of things to say and then just start making things up if it’s some kind of attention or validation that he’s craving. I’ve long thought that the heir and the spare was outdated.

Harry should have had worthwhile roles and I’m pretty sure that he mentioned in the Heads Together campaign that it was William who pushed him to seek therapy. So perhaps Harry just needs to find the right therapist who can actually help him?

I seriously don't think people are thinking big enough with Meghan, think Eva Peron or such, this woman is so ambitious.

Ruthless would be the word I'd use.

Unless Harry is just an incessant liar, he's not jealous. He said he felt sorry for his father and brother because they were trapped. But he'd been saved by getting out and moving to the Land of the Free. Or was that just another lie?

They all need help. Everyone of them has something to lose .

She knew full well this book would discredit her husband and at the same time exonerate her from all the questionable rumours from trouble making.

Now what woman would seriously want that for someone they loved, she knows how this makes him look, she's not stupid, but she knows Harry is.

Oh, Omid is piping up on his Twitter - bloody defending it!

He is an odious creep, but he’s got his own book (Endgame) coming out later this year. Am sure he’ll pipe up a bit more, especially once the further interviews air in the next few days.

Goodness. Imagine if someone like Scobie were involved in helping Harry present his thoughts and anecdotes to the ghost writer ...

And if Omid Scobie doesn't understand the geopolitical differences between Afghanistan in 2013 and Afghanistan in 2022/2023, and the consequences of that, then there's no helping him.

Yeah I know no account is 100% reliable and free of agenda, but pretty much all the many — and there are so many — separate non-anonymous household insider accounts confirm a hellish divide between public and private persona/behaviour.

I haven't watched The Crown but I've heard S5 came under flak for portraying her maliciously as unpredictable and manipulative, but the author has said it's based on source material provided by Diana and Charles (interviews, audio tapes, biographies they willingly contributed to), themselves, no secondary material. It's also quite dialled down.

This may rub some the wrong way but to me as someone familiar with personality disorders, even her tragic accident was no different to how many PD women with impulse control/paranoia die young. Her own former protection officer said that she'd be alive today if she hadn't dismissed her royal protection officers, who wouldn't have treated escaping from the media as a life-or-death emergency.

She also had a similar kind of twisted relationship / doomed dance with the media as Harry did. She hated the media with a passion, but would often collude with them to create a public narrative and get back at Charles and RF. Big name (again non anonymous) editors recount how she would call in with juicy details and tip offs about herself.

I say the above without judgment, only sympathy and interest... She had an awful childhood though I feel sorrier for Charles.

Also, yeah maybe meant to be mischevious bullingdon club/schoolboy type talk intertwined with boarding school trauma confessional, I can see an audience for that in the UK... after all no US politician would've gotten away with having a million children, shagging pigs, being caught groping on camera and then appearing half naked on reality TV to sell a woe is me trauma story, etc.

But obviously that doesn't work in the US which is traditionally quite Puritan, even in modern left wing circles.