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I am genuinely worried for Harry's mental health now after this

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Squabbledee · 06/01/2023 23:04

Give it another week of worldwide chewing over his words and all the drama it's creating, I'm genuinely worried for Harry. How can you go anywhere and hold your head up after you've opened yourself to such ridicule? He might want an un-royal life but he is a prince non-the-less. Where's the dignity? He really, really needs help. I sincerely hope it gets it. The fallout from this won't be forgotten in a hurry. And to top it off, how can he make his family truly secure now?

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CarPoor · 07/01/2023 00:15

Harry is just a victim of the Royal family, their ridiculous attitudes and the attitude of the public towards them.

He clearly is going through a lot. But any normal family would fucking try and support their son/brother in this situation. Even if they did tell the world about their frostbitten penis. He is being exploited by the media and the publishers, but unlike other 'celebrities' he cannot so easily fade into obscurity. He needs some proper support which for some unknown reason his wife doesn't seem to be able to give him

StormzyinaTCup · 07/01/2023 00:15

I can sympathise because I think he is desperately looking for closure and the ability to be able move on but he is a selfish, unaware and entitled dick for thinking this is the way to go about it. It has just made the situation not just worse for himself but for his immediate family, his extended family and anyone he has ever worked with.

Unfortunately, he only listens to one person and likely that person has told him this is what he needs to do to make everything right and so he is doing it. No one else is going to get a look in to advise any differently.

He has made his choices, spoken his 'truth', told his 'story' and now he has to live with the consequences.

FlairBand · 07/01/2023 00:15

Squisageandmosh · 07/01/2023 00:12

Oh please! You can’t blame this on MM! How on earth did she “let this happen”? H is an adult with independent thought.

If my dh wanted to do something I couldn’t necessarily stop him if I wanted to. He has a mind of his own. I could advise and have my say but he wouldn’t necessarily agree with me!

The one thing that is very clear from all of this is that H has been unhappy in the RF for a very long time. Way before MM came along. She just gave him strength to leave and I wish them well!

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I’m not blaming it on her. But I’m absolutely saying this wouldn’t have happened without her.

KalvinPhillipsBoots · 07/01/2023 00:15

rumship · 06/01/2023 23:56

I actually hope there is more support for our armed forces that are now more at risk than they were previously because this man child cannot keep his trap shut.

He is a 40 year old millionaire, who is putting people's lives at risk because he is a man baby. Zero worries about him, the faster he shuts up and crawls under a rock the better.

Well said

FlairBand · 07/01/2023 00:17

CarPoor · 07/01/2023 00:15

Harry is just a victim of the Royal family, their ridiculous attitudes and the attitude of the public towards them.

He clearly is going through a lot. But any normal family would fucking try and support their son/brother in this situation. Even if they did tell the world about their frostbitten penis. He is being exploited by the media and the publishers, but unlike other 'celebrities' he cannot so easily fade into obscurity. He needs some proper support which for some unknown reason his wife doesn't seem to be able to give him

Because she’s using him to fight her battles.

LadyVictoriaSponge · 07/01/2023 00:17

I feel sorry for William, imagine how utterly betrayed he must feel, even his personal medical details have been released to the world by Harry (circumcised). I don’t think he is mentally ill at all, he is is just raging with jealousy that he won’t be King.

Judelawsnanny · 07/01/2023 00:20

I honestly can't believe the last two days, it feels like a Bobby Ewing dream...

CarPoor · 07/01/2023 00:21

StormzyinaTCup · 07/01/2023 00:15

I can sympathise because I think he is desperately looking for closure and the ability to be able move on but he is a selfish, unaware and entitled dick for thinking this is the way to go about it. It has just made the situation not just worse for himself but for his immediate family, his extended family and anyone he has ever worked with.

Unfortunately, he only listens to one person and likely that person has told him this is what he needs to do to make everything right and so he is doing it. No one else is going to get a look in to advise any differently.

He has made his choices, spoken his 'truth', told his 'story' and now he has to live with the consequences.

He wants closure but he's also been raised in a family that is taught from birth they are incredibly special. His brother is being raised to be king of England. It makes sense that he's selfish and entitled, that's how he's been raised to be. He needs closure but he won't get it because he doesn't have a normal family or a normal life, you cannot get closure on being raised as he was. There are so many rules, regulations, ways you are supposed to act and appear

The consequences are only that because of the ideas and feelings we have around the royal family. And he has got a way back if his family want to behave like human beings.

LadyVictoriaSponge · 07/01/2023 00:21

It makes Oprah seem very tame!

StormzyinaTCup · 07/01/2023 00:21

He clearly is going through a lot. But any normal family would fucking try and support their son/brother in this situation. Even if they did tell the world about their frostbitten penis. He is being exploited by the media and the publishers, but unlike other 'celebrities' he cannot so easily fade into obscurity. He needs some proper support which for some unknown reason his wife doesn't seem to be able to give him.

Do you not think they have been trying?

So why doesn't his wife for some unknown reason seem to be able to give him any support?
Could it be she is also exploiting him?

Greenshake · 07/01/2023 00:22

The point made upthread about the radio silence from the awful Omid Scobie is a very good one.

Mezmer · 07/01/2023 00:22

I blame his advisors. There are vultures obviously circulating around him, gaslighting him and whispering in his ear. They are the bad ones. Including the likes of Oprah and Netflix who are feeding off him and exploiting him. It’s sad as he obviously hasn’t got good judgement when it comes to people’s motives.

However, I am lapping up the drama here on mumsnet I have to admit.

And He’s getting rich.

It’s win win.

But I do fear for him.

Couchpotato3 · 07/01/2023 00:23

All this circus is doing, for me, is showing how right the RF are with their policy of keeping quiet. No good can possibly come of sharing all this personal stuff in public. And now with this stuff about Afghanistan - that is the most monumentally crass and stupid thing yet. And it's not just embarrassing now, it may well have real world consequences. He has been spectacularly badly advised and should have pulled the book and paid back the advance. He could surely have afforded that, even if he had to beg his Dad for a sub? Better than this utter car crash.

CarPoor · 07/01/2023 00:26

LadyVictoriaSponge · 07/01/2023 00:17

I feel sorry for William, imagine how utterly betrayed he must feel, even his personal medical details have been released to the world by Harry (circumcised). I don’t think he is mentally ill at all, he is is just raging with jealousy that he won’t be King.

Wouldn't you be raging with jealousy?

Like genuinely if my brother was king of England and I was just the shitty spare I would be raging. Every fucking day on MN there's disputes about inheritance, my mother treats my siblings differently threads. That's that issue multiplied by 1000.

A situation like Harrg is completely inevitable in this modern world, if not him it would be someone else down the line. Honestly you'd have to be a saint to not feel jealousy in that situation.

CarPoor · 07/01/2023 00:27

StormzyinaTCup · 07/01/2023 00:21

He clearly is going through a lot. But any normal family would fucking try and support their son/brother in this situation. Even if they did tell the world about their frostbitten penis. He is being exploited by the media and the publishers, but unlike other 'celebrities' he cannot so easily fade into obscurity. He needs some proper support which for some unknown reason his wife doesn't seem to be able to give him.

Do you not think they have been trying?

So why doesn't his wife for some unknown reason seem to be able to give him any support?
Could it be she is also exploiting him?

Yes I was being sarcastic

No I don't think his family are supporting him. I think it is quite clear he doesn't feel supported by his family

ChiefPearlClutcher · 07/01/2023 00:27

I cannot stand MM but how is this her fault? The blame lies not with her but squarely with him. He is a privileged adult who had the best education money can buy. I do think they egg each other on and they live in an echo chamber of yes men.

Problem is, no one will ever take him seriously again whatever cause or issue he takes on. And everybody knows he can’t be trusted.

I think he is paranoid and had a severe persecution complex. Far from the palace leaking stories about him, they have clearly been protection him all theses years. This is the real Harry and always has been.

Mañanarama · 07/01/2023 00:28

Yes, where are the usual H&M supporters? Have there been any comments from anyone connected to them? Are they all dumbstruck somewhere just rocking in corners?

It’s oh so quiet…

onlylarkin · 07/01/2023 00:29

Squisageandmosh · 07/01/2023 00:12

Oh please! You can’t blame this on MM! How on earth did she “let this happen”? H is an adult with independent thought.

If my dh wanted to do something I couldn’t necessarily stop him if I wanted to. He has a mind of his own. I could advise and have my say but he wouldn’t necessarily agree with me!

The one thing that is very clear from all of this is that H has been unhappy in the RF for a very long time. Way before MM came along. She just gave him strength to leave and I wish them well!

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This 100%

FlairBand · 07/01/2023 00:30

Has anyone seen ANYONE come out in support of H&M (because let’s face it, it is both of them)??

normally there are always a few Sussex squad type slebs around to spin things - but I’m seeing nothing in the press.

It really is that cringey that everyone has distanced themselves. For a couple to whom being taken seriously as a “power couple” seemed to be the ultimate goal, the pettiness of this would seem to be the ultimate own goal.

I wonder what their conversations are. Which bits was he convinced to include against his better judgement and by whom?? And how does he feel towards them now..:

Harry has never done anything in his life without proper advisors. And I think he’s just shown us all why.

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Squabbledee · 07/01/2023 00:30

Judelawsnanny · 07/01/2023 00:20

I honestly can't believe the last two days, it feels like a Bobby Ewing dream...

Yes!

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GoingOnce · 07/01/2023 00:32

But any normal family would fucking try and support their son/brother in this situation

What can they do? Every word they utter will be betrayed to the highest bidder. He has lost their trust. One could argue they are supporting him by allowing him to have his say and not retaliating with their own “recollections”.

Sugarfree23 · 07/01/2023 00:32

@CarPoor but surely Harry is more than capable of spinning it, he has all the advantages of being RF, but with the freedom of not being expected to be King.
His spouse didn't need to become a Working Royal.
He could have stayed in the Army or moved to the Navy. Andrew did 20 years with Royal Navy. He could have done Air Ambulance like William.

He really shouldn't feel hard done by.

FlairBand · 07/01/2023 00:33

ChiefPearlClutcher · 07/01/2023 00:27

I cannot stand MM but how is this her fault? The blame lies not with her but squarely with him. He is a privileged adult who had the best education money can buy. I do think they egg each other on and they live in an echo chamber of yes men.

Problem is, no one will ever take him seriously again whatever cause or issue he takes on. And everybody knows he can’t be trusted.

I think he is paranoid and had a severe persecution complex. Far from the palace leaking stories about him, they have clearly been protection him all theses years. This is the real Harry and always has been.

Not saying it’s all her fault at all. But you surely can’t be saying she had nothing to do with it?

Everything he does is done with her in mind… even the day the queen died

MarshaMelrose · 07/01/2023 00:34

FlairBand · 07/01/2023 00:00

Personally I think it’s outrageous that MM has let him, even encouraged him, to go wrote this stuff and go ahead with publishing it.

He’s clearly unwell, in so many ways. She will have studied every word of this text in detail and told him it was a good idea. What was she thinking, if we all need people around us to protect us from bad decisions our partners should be the first. She’s the one person who could have stopped him.

the fact that her mouthpiece Scobie has had virtually nothing to say on the backlash suggests that there is serious upset in the Sussex camp about how the book has been received.

I’ve said it before and will again I think he’s been exploited, by Netflix, by the publishers, and by his wife… who is the one person he thinks has his back but let all this happen.

I wonder if they've got a camera crew recording all this reaction. Or whether it will be strangely absent? 😁

I think the US and Oz was initially very supportive about the allegations. I don't know if that's changed. It seems SM is mocking them and the MSM is being very grave and saying Harry is brave and the RF need to issue a statement justifying or explaining their behaviour.

I don't think it's as cut and dried as it sounds on MN.

DrWhoNowww · 07/01/2023 00:36

CarPoor · 07/01/2023 00:26

Wouldn't you be raging with jealousy?

Like genuinely if my brother was king of England and I was just the shitty spare I would be raging. Every fucking day on MN there's disputes about inheritance, my mother treats my siblings differently threads. That's that issue multiplied by 1000.

A situation like Harrg is completely inevitable in this modern world, if not him it would be someone else down the line. Honestly you'd have to be a saint to not feel jealousy in that situation.

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But being the spare is only shitty if you really want to be number one and your jealous of whoever is.

If you ignore Andrew’s near criminal record…he’s had a whale of a time as the spare, getting involved in whatever he wanted, doing as much or as little work as he wanted, titles and houses for the kids, no money worries…what’s so bad about being the spare?

Who complains about being hard done by as number 2 in a hereditary monarchy - who doesn’t realise how utterly self absorbed that makes you sound?