Page 6 | I am genuinely worried for Harry's mental health now after this

Squabbledee · 2023-01-06T23:04:52+00:00

Give it another week of worldwide chewing over his words and all the drama it's creating, I'm genuinely worried for Harry. How can you go anywhere and hold your head up after you've opened yourself to such ridicule? He might want an un-royal life but he is a prince non-the-less. Where's the dignity? He really, really needs help. I sincerely hope it gets it. The fallout from this won't be forgotten in a hurry. And to top it off, how can he make his family truly secure now?

ThesefoolishthingsWallace · 07/01/2023 04:19

This really is wrong

Meghan knows what this could incite.

Tally111 · 07/01/2023 04:25

FlairBand · 07/01/2023 00:00

Personally I think it’s outrageous that MM has let him, even encouraged him, to go wrote this stuff and go ahead with publishing it.

He’s clearly unwell, in so many ways. She will have studied every word of this text in detail and told him it was a good idea. What was she thinking, if we all need people around us to protect us from bad decisions our partners should be the first. She’s the one person who could have stopped him.

the fact that her mouthpiece Scobie has had virtually nothing to say on the backlash suggests that there is serious upset in the Sussex camp about how the book has been received.

I’ve said it before and will again I think he’s been exploited, by Netflix, by the publishers, and by his wife… who is the one person he thinks has his back but let all this happen.

So he was paid £36 million for his book* and, presumably, Megan gets half of anything he has if they split? Nothing to lose for her, huge losses for him. Anyone else see it?

(*This Morning reports that Prince Harry was paid £36 million for his book)

Lampzade · 07/01/2023 04:36

ThesefoolishthingsWallace · 07/01/2023 04:19

This really is wrong

Meghan knows what this could incite.

Stop infantilising Harry ffs. He knows exactly what he is doing.
As usual Meghan gets the blame for the fact that Harry grew up in a dysfunctional family
Misogyny in action

RenovationsUnderway · 07/01/2023 04:41

I would hope that people have close friends to tell their issues to. But I guess a lot of men don't.
Telling strangers or people you don't trust is never a good idea. A lot of famous people do it to a) make money b) mitigate others' envy. What a terrible life.

eyope · 07/01/2023 04:50

Harry is just stupid and hot headed and desperate for money that's his own. Atm MM is the only one with a career, and Harry has realised he has no skills or talent to do anything other than write a scandalous tell all. The only worthy job he did, in the military, he's completely shat on them and what it stands for by using sensitive kill information for commercial gain. That disgusts me.

I don't think MM has anything to do with it. If anything, I hope she realises this is a man who will burn everyone and anything when pissed off, and that could include her one day. He could start blaming her one day for his mistakes like he is his brother. His vindictiveness is scary tbh and if I were his wife, I'd want out of his toxic shit show. I wouldn't be surprised if she eventually realises he's not at her level intellectually or aspirationally and isn't qualified to do anything not leveraging his family. He doesn't strike me as someone who'd listen to anyone including her when his mind is made up.

I also controversially think he uses her as an excuse to get out of the RF, played it to show himself as a loving, devoted husband. When in reality he's wanted to get his own against them for a long time and MM gave him the perfect cover. He isn't this innocent, manipulated lamb people seem to think - between them he's the one with far more privilege and power and the knowledge of how to manipulate to get what you want. I hope she divorces him eventually and leaves him to fend for himself and realise no one is to blame for his shitty choices in life.

ShandaLear · 07/01/2023 04:58

Why on earth would you be worried about a complete stranger’s mental health? You can bet your bottom dollar he doesn’t give a flying fig about yours.

Cherry35 · 07/01/2023 05:03

RedDiamond · 07/01/2023 00:08

MM is using this all as evidence as to why she has to divorce him and have custody of the children. (In the next 2 years...)

@RedDiamond exactly what I was singing. Otherwise it doesn't make sense that she would approve these stories on the book (specially the army one which will put them in danger). Now she can divorce anytime and people would have sympathy.

Lampzade · 07/01/2023 05:23

Cherry35 · 07/01/2023 05:03

@RedDiamond exactly what I was singing. Otherwise it doesn't make sense that she would approve these stories on the book (specially the army one which will put them in danger). Now she can divorce anytime and people would have sympathy.

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I have heard it all now..,,,,

MsBucket · 07/01/2023 05:26

ThesefoolishthingsWallace · 07/01/2023 04:19

This really is wrong

Meghan knows what this could incite.

@ThesefoolishthingsWallace Let’s not blame Meghan for Harry’s actions. He’s a grown man who is responsible for his own actions. Times have changed. We should not hold women responsible for the men in their lives.

Aussiegirl123456 · 07/01/2023 06:06

eyope · 07/01/2023 04:50

Harry is just stupid and hot headed and desperate for money that's his own. Atm MM is the only one with a career, and Harry has realised he has no skills or talent to do anything other than write a scandalous tell all. The only worthy job he did, in the military, he's completely shat on them and what it stands for by using sensitive kill information for commercial gain. That disgusts me.

I don't think MM has anything to do with it. If anything, I hope she realises this is a man who will burn everyone and anything when pissed off, and that could include her one day. He could start blaming her one day for his mistakes like he is his brother. His vindictiveness is scary tbh and if I were his wife, I'd want out of his toxic shit show. I wouldn't be surprised if she eventually realises he's not at her level intellectually or aspirationally and isn't qualified to do anything not leveraging his family. He doesn't strike me as someone who'd listen to anyone including her when his mind is made up.

I also controversially think he uses her as an excuse to get out of the RF, played it to show himself as a loving, devoted husband. When in reality he's wanted to get his own against them for a long time and MM gave him the perfect cover. He isn't this innocent, manipulated lamb people seem to think - between them he's the one with far more privilege and power and the knowledge of how to manipulate to get what you want. I hope she divorces him eventually and leaves him to fend for himself and realise no one is to blame for his shitty choices in life.

Finally, someone else sees it!

Mummyoflittledragon · 07/01/2023 06:12

CarPoor · 07/01/2023 00:43

He shouldn't feel hard done by because he's incredibly privelaged, but I think it's natural to feel jealous

He's grown up heavily in the eye of the media. Way more than probably previous royals. Hes been expected to perform to the public as a royal and behave in a certain way from birth. His mother died very publicy and the funeral was broadcast to half the world, and again he was expected to perform. The only person who could even slightly understand is William, but then his brother is going to be King and Harry is just the spare, essentially a minor royal.

I think I would be insanely angry in that scenario, and yes jealous. I also highly doubt Charles is a warm and loving father. There's a lot of pressure put on them from the family from very early on. And I'm sure previous siblings have felt the same but luckily no daily mail or Oprah to document everything and allow them to publish stupid books.

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Oprah launched her talk show in 1986, the same year as Andrew and Fergie married and it became big fast. She interviewed Michael Jackson in 1993 and Sarah Ferguson the year of the royal split in 1996. SF discussed the separation and royal life, which was quite a scandal at the time.

As for there being no Daily Mail in back then, the paper was launched in 1886. Incidentally the now defunct and scandalous Daily Sport was launched in 1986. There was plenty of media around. And plenty of media attention.

It has been reported that when Prince Andrew complained to HMQ about the H&M Oprah interview she quickly reminded him of the one with his ex wife.

MinkyGreen · 07/01/2023 06:20

Although I try to keep all this at arms length, and think
its pretty rubbish sensational gossip - I am really surprised about the 25 deaths being detailed in the book. Killing another person - or taking a life - must carry a huge conscious weight - however bad we deem that person may be. It was still a human life, someone who had a family. I can absolutely see why there is an unwritten law that deaths are not discussed in that way. It shouldn’t have been included in the book, and it can only serve to
heighten his security risk. But he/his advisors MUST have know this??

isthismylifenow · 07/01/2023 06:40

As an outsider, he is an embarrassment to his country.

It like a movie plot where it seems they are trying to take down the whole RF. Tittle taling on his family and he's the only do gooder.

Good grief, it's quite pathetic.

TerfOnATrain · 07/01/2023 06:43

DrWhoNowww · 07/01/2023 00:36

But being the spare is only shitty if you really want to be number one and your jealous of whoever is.

If you ignore Andrew’s near criminal record…he’s had a whale of a time as the spare, getting involved in whatever he wanted, doing as much or as little work as he wanted, titles and houses for the kids, no money worries…what’s so bad about being the spare?

Who complains about being hard done by as number 2 in a hereditary monarchy - who doesn’t realise how utterly self absorbed that makes you sound?

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I agree. I’d far rather be a spare with all of the privilege and none of the responsibility.

I’d happily walk into church behind my sibling then disappear back to my country pad where I could quaff champagne knowing I didn’t have to get up for anything in the morning.

highberry · 07/01/2023 06:49

Has the book been written to gain traction in overseas markets that have different priorities to the UK? I kind of hope that it is has been done with some reason greater than a damaged person doing damage but I am struggling to see how it can be. I am just really hoping the leaked stories are not totally representative of what is in the book because it all feels very disturbing and not at all what I was expecting! I was thinking it was all going to be more of the same (Oprah and Netflix) a lot of talking around the subject. I kind of wish it was tbh. I don't need to know any of this.

EarlyYearsMe · 07/01/2023 06:51

I am still keen to read the book for myself, I pre ordered a copy a while ago and I am aware of all these ‘clickbait’ headlines may well be misrepresenting the truth.

I do wonder if we will ever get away from MM being seen as some evil monster- perhaps Harry is just making his own choices? 🤔

To me, it feels as if Harry has sort of burst out the shackles of the RF and has perhaps gone too far in his mission to put his side of the story across. I can’t imagine how it would feel to have lies told about you all your life, and have no opportunity to remedy it, and now he has escaped, he is just spilling it all. In some respects it must be good for his mental health but I can’t help but think he is struggling.

I really don’t believe the RF has a place in society any more it seems so toxic and manipulative, it would damage me living in a family like that.

RoseMadderAsHell · 07/01/2023 06:53

LotteryWinPlease · 07/01/2023 00:43

I would LOVE to be the spare! All the privilege, none of the responsibility PW is facing and having access to the best of absolutely everything. Healthcare, education, travelling. You could do so much good for charity, preserving wildlife, campaigning, or even just live a quiet life behind the scenes if you can't be arsed. Literally anything you want.

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It could have been so different.
At one interview, after the engagement, H said they might go and live in Africa and help with wildlife preservation, he seemed really happy and enthusiastic.
M was smiling and nodding as if she agreed.

hattie43 · 07/01/2023 07:04

Funkyblues101 · 07/01/2023 01:26

His mental health? He's shown himself to be incredibly thick, spoilt, malicious and spiteful as well as turning himself into a laughing stock. Mental health has nothing to do with it, just good (bad, in this case) old fashioned character.
He probably doesn't even realise how embarrassed he should be.
He has also shown himself to be totally unconcerned with anyone else's mental health, just his own.
Save your sympathy for someone who deserves it.

Sadly I agree with this .
I think for years the palace have probably saved Harry from himself . Now left to his own devices this is was you get . Totally cringe .

narkyspirit · 07/01/2023 07:04

It's clear he has had mental health issues for years, his family obviously helped him, now he is out 'on his own' he is imploding.

'Princess Meghan' will shortly be looking to remove herself from this situation and then begin writing books herself about the abuse she suffered being married to Harry.

ittakes2 · 07/01/2023 07:07

FlairBand · 07/01/2023 00:00

Personally I think it’s outrageous that MM has let him, even encouraged him, to go wrote this stuff and go ahead with publishing it.

He’s clearly unwell, in so many ways. She will have studied every word of this text in detail and told him it was a good idea. What was she thinking, if we all need people around us to protect us from bad decisions our partners should be the first. She’s the one person who could have stopped him.

the fact that her mouthpiece Scobie has had virtually nothing to say on the backlash suggests that there is serious upset in the Sussex camp about how the book has been received.

I’ve said it before and will again I think he’s been exploited, by Netflix, by the publishers, and by his wife… who is the one person he thinks has his back but let all this happen.

I agree with you I think he is being exploited and I am not team H&M but I have become quite worried about him. Yes they’ll have the money and fame they want but at what cost

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 07/01/2023 07:16

He’s been ruthlessly and cruelly exploited by people banking* on making loadsamoney out of him. And that’s not to say he hasn’t been a prize idiot, too.
*I use the word advisedly.

H and M’s all too well publicised desire for a ‘private’ life now looks like a sicker joke than ever.

23mum · 07/01/2023 07:17

I don't wanna start another thread about this as quite frankly I'm getting bored of hearing about him but I am quite interested to know why this book was published in Spanish? Could someone please shed some light on this for me

oakleaffy · 07/01/2023 07:19

23mum · 07/01/2023 07:17

I don't wanna start another thread about this as quite frankly I'm getting bored of hearing about him but I am quite interested to know why this book was published in Spanish? Could someone please shed some light on this for me

Books are frequently translated into other languages , What was unusual that the Spanish edition appears to have been released early.

23mum · 07/01/2023 07:21

@oakleaffy thank you! Any particular reason why or just a random thing?

Badger1970 · 07/01/2023 07:22

I've said all along that Harry has never been said No to, especially after Diana died. And when he was told No that he couldn't live a celeb lifestyle alongside his public facing one as a member of the RF, this is the ongoing tantrum he's having as a result...

Charles was never equipped to deal with Diana and her MH issues - and he's no better equipped to deal with his sons'. This is the consequence.