I'm feeling a bit sorry for Harry

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I feel like he needs his mum more than ever. To put an arm round him and say "enough son".

He needs guidance, he's never had maternal guidance. Its well documented that Williams life has been really enhanced by Kates parents. Harry has never had that and i feel sorry for him.

@Anniefrenchfry bloody hell. Try the book 'motherless daughter's'
losing your mum as a teen can have a profound impact on you, in that you can get 'stuck' in a way at that age that you lost them. Honestly people are so bloody dim.

My son had some therapy for depression and he wasn’t impressed. Each session was just him talking and them ‘listening’ - no advice, no guidance nothing. He said he was sick if it after the last session as he was just regurgitating the same stuff each week and he felt no nearer dealing with, or feeling better, about his MH.

'Each session was just him talking and them ‘listening’ - no advice, no guidance nothing.'

A therapist doesn't have the answers or the solutions. They don't, and shouldn't, give advice. Listening is obviously a huge part of the process but they should also ask questions, encourage the client to explore and share their feelings about whatever comes up, maybe challenge them at times. It's far from a quick fix, and can be a very painful process

That said, there are some therapists who are just plain rubbish, like in any profession

@BellePeppa I hope your son has found the help he needed.

Yes, that's my understanding of counselling. The counsellor isn't there to tell you/advise you what to do or to tell you that you are right (!), but to direct, challenge etc. so that you sort your own self with their help. The guidance may well be there but it might be in the form of an awkward question.

I had the most extraordinary therapist. He really confronted me, while also helping me find a framework to understand my world.

I've also had an excellent counsellor, who helped me prioritise, cope, find a way through very trying times.

And a poor counsellor who listened and said 'oh dear, that sounds very hard'.

I don’t think Diana was the type to know when “enough was enough”. She wouldn’t be a good role model now, for how to handle himself decently in public.

Diana might have been gunning for Charles (and his courtiers), but she was very loyal to the wider monarchy.

She didn't criticise the Queen, and was actively preparing her DC for their destiny. Harry was meant to have been a core, high-status working senior Royal.

Would she have supported him in stepping away - who knows, quite possibly. But it wasn't how she envisaged his life

He’s a grown man acting like a spoilt arsehole. Do I feel sorry for him? No.

Don’t feel sorry for him one bit, he is a spiteful, jealous, petty stupid man, all of this is because he is jealous of William and born second, well boo boo Harry let me find my tiny violin, he was born into a higher position than 60 plus million in this country alone, the world was his oyster, he has found a woman he adores and who adores him, has 2 lovely healthy children, lives in a huge mansion, is insanely wealthy, can do what he likes when he likes and never has to work a day in his life if he doesn’t want to.

Harry has had everything laid on a diamond platter all his life, it is actually his downfall because he has no purpose in life, all he’s does is spend his time navel gazing at what he doesn’t have and will never have, the crown on his head.

I'm not. But I am starting to feel slightly sorry for Meghan for being married to such a prick.

@Ryder68 when Charlotte was born there was already an heir and a spare. The RF finally moved with the times before the eldest one was born to make either sex eligible for inheritance. So no dynastic need for Louis.

This is honestly nuts. Just because someone is born into wealth. doesn't mean they have an easy life. He has struggled massively and has experienced huge trauma and had to face that in the public. He is clearly struggling. The worst thing you can hear when you are struggling is how people have it worse than you. it doesn't help. Just makes you feel worse for feeling bad!

This is honestly nuts. Just because someone is born into wealth. doesn't mean they have an easy life. He has struggled massively and has experienced huge trauma and had to face that in the public. He is clearly struggling. The worst thing you can hear when you are struggling is how people have it worse than you. it doesn't help. Just makes you feel worse for feeling bad!

That may all be true but that doesn't excuse what he's doing to his birth family.

This is honestly nuts. Just because someone is born into wealth. doesn't mean they have an easy life. He has struggled massively and has experienced huge trauma and had to face that in the public. He is clearly struggling. The worst thing you can hear when you are struggling is how people have it worse than you. it doesn't help. Just makes you feel worse for feeling bad!

😂Phwwwaaaahahaha did someone seriously type this with a straight face. is this Harry or Megs?

This is honestly nuts. Just because someone is born into wealth. doesn't mean they have an easy life. He has struggled massively and has experienced huge trauma and had to face that in the public. He is clearly struggling. The worst thing you can hear when you are struggling is how people have it worse than you. it doesn't help. Just makes you feel worse for feeling bad!

But it’s not just past trauma he is struggling with (death of Diana) of course I have sympathy for that, as I have sympathy for William whose grief and trauma seems to be swept aside and forgotten about, what I’m talking about is the “struggle” he has now, not being able to accept that William will be King and he won’t, and not being happy or content with the immense good fortune that he has now.

Yes, that is why I wondered if the third child was had to lessen the possible mental impact of the heir and spare scenario. A sort of dilution.

Heir and two 'spares' far less likely to recreate the current W and H dynamic.

You’re feeling sorry for Meghan?! Someone who bullies the poor staff? Wow.

I'd imagine that there aren't many people that Harry trusts right now. I hope that I'm wrong and that he has friends in the US. (my guess is that his friends in the UK know his brother so he might feel paranoid reaching out)
I think his mum would be telling him to leave his brother out of his tantrums.

'This is honestly nuts. Just because someone is born into wealth. doesn't mean they have an easy life'

It's true. Yes he's never been on a waiting list, or had to worry about paying bills, but that doesn't mean his life has been plain sailing. I wouldn't swop lives with him, or any of the royals, not for a second

He’s proof that having millions, a lovely home and a wife and children to share it with, do not bring happiness.

He has what most people yearn for but even with therapy he still has a chip on his shoulder and a huge hole in his life and it appears he wants to make everyone else in his family excluding his wife and children, as unhappy as he is.

You’re feeling sorry for Meghan?! Someone who bullies the poor staff? Wow.

It's perfectly possible to not like somebody but still feel sorry for them in one area of their life. I can't stand Oscar Pistorius but I have sympathy for him having to have his feet amputated when he was a baby. I envy you your black and white view of life.

Meghan has manipulated the entire thing. She’s goaded him to the point of cutting himself off from friends and family.

She knows EXACTLY what she’s doing. As soon as she’s got what she needs from her association with him, she’ll dump him like a wet fish.

It’s at that point that he’ll have to see whether he has a route back into his family and his old life, after all the public embarrassment and his public mental unravelling.

She’s playing the long(ish) game, and will get exactly what she wants out of all this.

Yes, poor little domestic abuser and ultimate murderer ☹️

Yes, poor little domestic abuser and ultimate murderer

Yes I agree. Which is why I said I can't stand him.