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I'm feeling a bit sorry for Harry

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ssd · 06/01/2023 12:21

I feel like he needs his mum more than ever. To put an arm round him and say "enough son".

He needs guidance, he's never had maternal guidance. Its well documented that Williams life has been really enhanced by Kates parents. Harry has never had that and i feel sorry for him.

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hoooops · 06/01/2023 14:02

I can think many of others more deserving of my sympathy than an insanely rich and privileged adult with self inflicted problems.

I agree, and I'm surprised how much the reported bits of the book have annoyed me. This man has had every advantage possible - he will never die waiting for an ambulance, or spend his day in bed because his house is so cold, or send his kids to a failing school, or search through the discount basket at the supermarket. There is war in Europe and a climate emergency. And he is sniping at his family and complaining that his bedroom in a castle on granny's 50k acre estate wasn't big enough. I wonder if he has any idea how that comes across.

ily0 · 06/01/2023 14:02

JoyPeaceHealth · 06/01/2023 12:35

And although he's made a lot of money, that house of his costs 15 million a year to run! I think I remember reading that. I'd love to see him move to a much smaller house that was much cheaper to run so that he didn't need to make so much money. He could set up a bootcamp in Montecito. As an ex army type who has been very fit in his past that is something that rings true and wouldn't be hard to buy. I think that could work. Even if their ambitions are for politics in the future, I think 20 years of leading simpler more hardworking lives would serve that agenda well.

How on earth could a house cost £15 mil to run?! He brought it outright with his mum’s inheritance money.

Bugeyedowl · 06/01/2023 14:02

SirMingeALot · 06/01/2023 13:58

The Taliban thing in particular is such an incredibly stupid thing to do that I have to wonder if anyone did advise him it was fine. It's not like anyone on his payroll or even in his circle could veto it.

Yes, I think he's not getting proper advice. Why didn't his publisher/editor point that out that this may not be the wisest thing to say?!

Perhaps they did but in his zeal he's not listening. Who knows.

AdamRyan · 06/01/2023 14:03

LateAF · 06/01/2023 12:27

He’s living in a mansion, publishing a bestselling book, has a Netflix deal, a wife and 2 kids and private jets everywhere. Whatever his issues he can afford the best care and professional help to address them. All the choices he makes are his own.

I can think many of others more deserving of my sympathy than an insanely rich and privileged adult with self inflicted problems.

Being "Rich and privileged" is no shield to childhood trauma and attendant MH problems.
Hes also seen active service and killed people in conflict.
I'm also feeling sorry for him - he clearly has a lot of issues and has not been supported. This total lack of empathy because he's rich has probably made life worse for him.
I don't know what the answer is but I hope his family support him. I think the book appears to be a huge "you forced me into this" plea for help.

Bookloverlover · 06/01/2023 14:03

I feel sorry for the "older woman" who has to read about him describing their meeting as "mounting her like a horse"

TrashyPanda · 06/01/2023 14:04

he's never had maternal guidance

was Diana really that crap a mother?
i don’t think so.
she had her faults (what mother doesn’t?), but to say she never guided her sons is a bit much

Aleaiactaest · 06/01/2023 14:05

Regarding racism, you can’t wear a Nazi uniform and describe the Taliban as chess pieces… He needs to apologise for that. Urgently. The sheer hypocrisy of the whole thing suggests he has lost the plot. If you don’t want media attention, you lie low. Not the opposite. You can’t claim racism towards your own wife, but then speak of Taliban fighters in a non human way. The British military teaches the opposite, at least in theory.

AnneShirleysNewDress · 06/01/2023 14:05

The thing is this is only his version of the truth. There is also everyone else's version and somewhere amongst that is what actually happened. If what is in the book is as has been reported then he has gone too far. His children don't need to know how he lost his virginity.

TimeBurglar · 06/01/2023 14:05

I'm angry with him, but I too feel sorry for him. I didn't realise he was so dim. Who on earth is letting him set himself up like this.

Even the Taliban have now said he's lost the plot and needs help (Daily Mail source sorry). I wouldn't want them on my back. I do hope some crazy person is not going to go after Harry now for telling the world he callously killed 25 Taliban.

thecatsthecats · 06/01/2023 14:06

ShirleyPhallus · 06/01/2023 12:26

I absolutely believe him and Meghan on what they’re saying

I just am not sure they should be saying it

I believe them on what they say, but not necessarily how they SEE it.

IKEA furniture story - eh, you had to buy your own furniture. No big deal.
Secret wedding - well, if they'd put it as "we regretted choosing the public wedding, we had a private vow ceremony that felt more real to us", fine.
Tightsgate - two women at a very fraught point in their lives had a minor tiff. Not something that needs a winner.
Archie's skin tone - well, that depends on the content of the conversation, but then shouldn't the person concerned be given the same grace Harry was to learn and change, not be smeared as racist?

And yes, they absolutely shouldn't be saying it. I've had some bad shit happen to me, and the last thing that would be good for me would be raking all over the details and trying to demand an apology from the person who harassed and abused me.

Peace, calm, time and focus on what they will do with what they've learned is the way forward.

Mrsjayy · 06/01/2023 14:08

His mum was doing the exact same writing books doing interviews and faffing about seeing who would take her in and give her attention. I think "we " elevate her to some sort of Saint she probably would he cheerleading his book..

TimeBurglar · 06/01/2023 14:08

I feel sorry for the "older woman" who has to read about him describing their meeting as "mounting her like a horse".

I'd love some ginger-haired love child to appear like what happened to Arnie Schwarzenegger.

I do hope the older woman sells her story to the paper.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 06/01/2023 14:09

Bookloverlover · 06/01/2023 14:03

I feel sorry for the "older woman" who has to read about him describing their meeting as "mounting her like a horse"

Press will be hot on her trail. Never mind the indignity of his description.

Violashift · 06/01/2023 14:12

The whole family are toxic. I feel for him more than Charles and William but come one it's the over privileged arguing. While the reat of ys struggle with the cost of living.

hoooops · 06/01/2023 14:14

I didn't realise he was so dim.

The RF pr team did a great job protecting him and managing his image. The people looking after him now have different incentives.

picklemewalnuts · 06/01/2023 14:14

jamoncrumpets · 06/01/2023 13:52

Listen to you all rabbiting on like you have any clue whatsoever what goes on inside those palace doors.

Several of my friends occupy senior jobs in the media, several of my DH's friends were in William's year at Eton, and everything I've been told by them contradicts the fangirls on this thread. It's well known in the media and royal circles that William (and Kate) is a bully. It's well known that their marriage is a facade and he's had multiple affairs. It's well known that he acts one way in front of the public and another in private.

Harry is jumping a sinking ship.

So what? That's totally irrelevant to Harry making a pillock of himself.

He's not coming out of this well, regardless of Kate and Wills actual behaviour.

saleorbouy · 06/01/2023 14:14

I don't think many family relationships would survive, televised criticism and tell all memoirs where you make pubic accusations of your close family.
Better not to air you dirty laundry in public our sell it for millions.
It's little wonder he's been ostracised, you couldn't trust him to keep anything personal and secret to himself.
He's sold his honesty, integrity and credibility to the highest bidder.
I'm afraid his loneliness is self inflicted by his poor choices.

Madamecastafiore · 06/01/2023 14:14

Think they're both bonkers and a lot of it is bullshit. They're making themselves look crazy and any decent organisation worth its salt would quietly step away from them now to avoid ruining its reputation, compromising any sort of sponsorship going forward.

Unless it's selling unbreakable dog bowls or lip gloss which is in some way medicated making it not utterly grim to share it.

Sputum · 06/01/2023 14:15

I agree, and I'm surprised how much the reported bits of the book have annoyed me. This man has had every advantage possible - he will never die waiting for an ambulance, or spend his day in bed because his house is so cold, or send his kids to a failing school, or search through the discount basket at the supermarket. There is war in Europe and a climate emergency. And he is sniping at his family and complaining that his bedroom in a castle on granny's 50k acre estate wasn't big enough. I wonder if he has any idea how that comes across.
Couldn’t agree more @hoooops
He’s so utterly tone deaf.

TrashyPanda · 06/01/2023 14:15

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 06/01/2023 14:09

Press will be hot on her trail. Never mind the indignity of his description.

Yes, the whole description of her and their “romp” was very disrespectful of the woman.

Is he trying to say that he was “taken advantage of”?

describing her only as an older, horsy woman is very dismissive.

Fladdermus · 06/01/2023 14:15

Harry is a fully grown adult with access to resources and support that most of us can only dream about. My sympathy gauge would be running low if this were coming from a teenager bu from an almost 40 year old? He needs to grow the fuck up.

SirMingeALot · 06/01/2023 14:18

UWhatNow · 06/01/2023 13:54

I don’t feel sorry for him one jot. He’s a multi millionaire spiteful little man-child out to destroy his whole family.

When you come for the king, don't miss, as they say. He's missed.

And I'm a republican, so I hold no brief for any of the Windsors, but this is being made to sound like something out of a Carry On film.

greennavy · 06/01/2023 14:23

I wonder what advice she would
Have given 😅

AdamRyan · 06/01/2023 14:24

I do hope some crazy person is not going to go after Harry now for telling the world he callously killed 25 Taliban.
What on earth do you think soldiers are doing at war? He was doing his job in this instance, it's not any more "callous" than any other soldier fighting in Afghanistan.

browlow · 06/01/2023 14:25

If his therapist was a good one they would have tried to guide him away from such exposure. Maybe they did try.
Also if Tom Bradby was any sort of friend he wouldn't have let those interviews run

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