I'm feeling a bit sorry for Harry

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I feel like he needs his mum more than ever. To put an arm round him and say "enough son".

He needs guidance, he's never had maternal guidance. Its well documented that Williams life has been really enhanced by Kates parents. Harry has never had that and i feel sorry for him.

Yep MNHQ seem okay with it.

I’m not sure they will anymore they think it’s important to laugh at the rich - going by an mnhq post the other day

The cable TV role was the jewel in the crown of her career which took her from unnamed Briefcase Girl or BlowJobber to a named role she waited her whole career for. Her female lead days were ending due to her age and she extracted every drop of potential out of the opportunity both on and off screen. It happened at the end of her acting career which is better than not happening at all. It did not reveal a prodigious talent by any means but it meant that she caught the last train out of obscurity.

Such awful misogynistic insults today. I’m amazed at the snooty attitudes on the board on the acting industry. Whether A list or just a
minor actress in bit parts all your life, it’s work. For Meghan, whatever she achieved on her own it was enough to support herself well. Nothing wrong with that. Not sure why people need to constantly denigrate it and mock the roles she got.

For Meghan, whatever she achieved on her own it was enough to support herself well.

Are you still pedaling that myth? Her father fully supported her through college, with his Lotto wins. Trevor Engleson fully supported her financially for all the years up until she won the role in Suits. She supported herself for six years before marrying a second richer person.

Are you still pedaling that myth? Her father fully supported her through college, with his Lotto wins. Trevor Engleson fully supported her financially for all the years up until she won the role in Suits. She supported herself for six years before marrying a second richer person.

It isn’t a myth that she had consistent work before she married Harry and was a millionaire. That is true and accurate. Like most peoples parents, her’s helped her through school. I’ve done the same for my kid. I won’t be trying to take ownership of everything they do as adults because of that. Trevor Engleston was her husband. Quite often, couples support each other. Maybe not for you but for lots of people. He’s not spoken about what he did or didn’t do for her as far as I’m aware. I supported my husband in the first few years we were together. He still owns and can be congratulated for the successful career he has now and has worked for himself. Nobody says, oh hang on your wife supported you in the early days.

Don't the sussex fan club love their labels. It's now misogynistic to comment that someone earned their living as a non A list actor, doing bit parts and risqué scenes.

Feel sorry for him? Seriously? He is an embarrassment to himself and his family. He's had an amazingly privileged upbringing and lifestyle, inherited millions from his mother, and can well afford the help he needs to sort himself out. Losing his mother was a tragedy but many of us have similar things happen and we get on with life and don't go round whinging to everyone. You'd think his wife, who seems a lot sharper than him, would recognise this and point him to psychiatric help rather than trying to make money off his family connections (although let's face it, she wouldn't have married him if he hadn't been a prince). So no, no sympathy, just cringing every time this pair open their mouths.

I feel sorry for him even though I am not a Sussex fan. His money, fame and title has been cashed in for a major, major lifestyle upgraded for his wife and her old friends. Do you really think he would be happy losing his family and his friends so that she can play dress up in a big, gaudy mansion in her home city surrounded by her support network. Anybody who has ever been in an unequal relationship for any length of time in a foreign country knows that pain.

I say it as I see it. 😊

And calling someone a 'prick' IS name calling.

He thought he was going away to a life of luxury in the sun with his loving wife and 2 lovely kids, funded by the British taxpayer and their security by the American taxpayers. He woke up to a harsh reality that inheritances only last so long with a lavish lifestyle and dad stopped paying after a year, and your wife wasn't some big Hollywood star she portrayed herself to be but a cable TV actress.

How's that fan fiction coming along? Can't wait to read it.
😊 😊 At this rate it's going to end up a historical novel, or some really bad mills and boon.

Exactly. Complete hypocrite.

i completely agree.

Amber Heard mark 2 - she had a load of hangers on as well all leeching off Johnny

She was an established actress in Hollywood, just not a superstar like he was?

Maybe the non smiles were nervous and conscious of the serenity and solemnity which should attach to the occasion. Maybe they were trying to be neutral and not draw attention because Harry's every facial move and interaction is dissected. Maybe they were like deer caught in the headlights.

Perceptions and facts are different.

As the title of the thread says "I'm feeling a bit sorry for Harry "

I am too but then he did bring it on himself.
Whatever issues he had should have been sorted out in private.
No doubt the family involved in the Coronation would be stressed enough without having the extra worry of anything spoken or done by them being broadcast via Harry or his intermediaries in a most subjective manner.
Sad that he had to walk in with his cousin's husband rather than take his rightful place up beside the Waleses.
Brave of him to come though, knowing that he would be a persona non grata in some peoples opinion.

'Brave of him to come though, knowing that he would be a persona non grata in some peoples opinion.'

It really wasn't brave. As you said yourself he brought it all on himself. Brave is serving in warzones or living with a disability, not facing family you've been incredibly scathing about.

I agree with you, @Janiie . Not brave.
I think it took some nerve, though, after everything he's said, just to attend as if nothing happened.

Yes, brass necked rather than brave. We all know people like this, no selfawareness quite happy to cause as much hurt as they like as it's 'their lived experience', but anyone giving them a teensy bit of truth back and they just cannot cope at all.

I genuinely was amazed that he turned up. It doesn't matter whether you think he's in the right or wrong, his truth, yadda yadda, but the things he's claimed and accused them of.....then walks down the aisle all smiles. Now that takes nerve. Or nuclear strength obliviousness.

Arrogance I reckon.

He's fobbed off with Eugenie's husband to make small talk.

I think that’s very unfair on Eugenies husband who seems like a decent guy and made the effort to make harry feel comfortable and not isolated. He wasn’t fobbed off, what an unpleasant thing to say. Her husband has done nothing wrong.

Kids that have to live in survival mode don’t always stop loving who hurts them, they just stop trusting their care. As adults, this often influences a high level of isolation. It’s not that they don’t crave closeness but because no one has shown them safety when it mattered most - Nate Postlethwait

Yes, arrogance. I just read this (yes, I know):

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12060033/I-exasperated-Prince-Harrys-Spare-ghostwriter-J-R-Moehringer-tells-tensions-them.html.

The article itself is meh, the timing is typically DM. It's this sentence right at the end that says it all: he shot me a mischievous grin, ''I really enjoy getting you worked up like that".

Who SAYS that? Would any of us, in our workplaces with our colleagues or bosses, or juniors for that matter, every say that? Moreover, Moehringer is an accomplished writer, highly reputed in his field. He's at the top of that field in the English-reading world. Harry barely scraped an A Level. Who on earth does he think he is?