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Meghan WAS banned from Balmoral after Queen’s death

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SnottyLottie · 05/01/2023 20:48

In his book, Harry also claims that his father told him that Meghan should not come to Balmoral. The Queen was staying at her Scottish estate when she died last September.

The prince wrote: "Then my father called again. He told me I was welcome at Balmoral, but… without her. He started to explain his reasons, but they didn't make any sense at all, and it was disrespectful as well. I did not tolerate it from him.

"Don't even think about talking about my wife like that.

"Repentant, he said, stammering, that he simply didn't want the place to be full of people. Nobody's wife was going to go, not even Kate, he told me, so Meg shouldn't either."

source: news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-asked-his-father-not-to-marry-camilla-as-moment-he-was-told-about-his-mothers-car-accident-revealed-in-book-12780602

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BradfordGirl · 07/01/2023 16:55

Officially they said at the time that Kate was not coming as it was the first day at school for her children. Now they are saying Kate was not invited either. I suspect the first statement is the truth.

twelly · 07/01/2023 17:17

The word "banned" is very emotive, I think from what is being reported and what we know immediate family were at Balmoral. Only two grandchildren made the journey and only spouses of the children. It seems rather entitled for a grandchild to expect their wife to be allowed to attend when other grandchildren were not.

Blossomtoes · 07/01/2023 17:21

BradfordGirl · 07/01/2023 16:55

Officially they said at the time that Kate was not coming as it was the first day at school for her children. Now they are saying Kate was not invited either. I suspect the first statement is the truth.

Who are “they”? Surely was just told that Catherine wasn’t at Balmoral?

SingingWithSeals · 07/01/2023 17:25

Quite. And the Queen probably had said at some point who’d she want at her deathbed.

Also, it was the time that marked Charles becoming King and William becoming 1st in line and The Prince of Wales, with Catherine potentially becoming The Princess of Wales. As her life and duties were being so affected, it makes perfect sense that Kate should be there and why Charles needed/wanted her to be (if that’s the case). Meghan’s life and status were not changing, other than her husband moving up one rung in the line of succession.

glamourousindierockandroll · 07/01/2023 17:25

I don't think it's weird. When my grandad died last year, and we gathered afterwards, it was only his wife, his children + spouses and we grandchildren there. Spouses of grandchildren didn't go.

SingingWithSeals · 07/01/2023 17:26

My “quite” was in agreement with the post by @twelly

BlackFriday · 07/01/2023 17:30

Why did Harry have any more right to attend than any of his cousins? William was to be heir to the throne, hence why he was going, but none of the other grandchildren were, so why should Harry? I don't see any of them kicking off about it. They would have been just as sad about it as he alleges to have been.

bakalava · 07/01/2023 17:40

BlackFriday · 07/01/2023 17:30

Why did Harry have any more right to attend than any of his cousins? William was to be heir to the throne, hence why he was going, but none of the other grandchildren were, so why should Harry? I don't see any of them kicking off about it. They would have been just as sad about it as he alleges to have been.

He previously said that he was the one with the special relationship with the queen and her closest grandchild.

ancientgran · 07/01/2023 17:41

MissTrip82 · 07/01/2023 07:42

Being with a loved one as they die isn’t a performance. What a very strange way to view
others. So much contempt.

All families handle this differently. It’s certainly not dysfunctional to prefer not have people around you as you die; it is however quite dysfunctional to think your way is the only way and that loving family members sitting quietly with someone as they pass is a ‘show’ of some kind.

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I've said people want different things and that's fine. I don't want people there, I don't want to be watched, if you do then that's great you do that and I'll do what I want. I don't like being watched, I liked giving birth alone but got bullied by midwives into having DH there for one birth, it wasn't for me. I think it is very strange to imagine that everyone has to feel the same way about things, actually it is also rude and judgmental.

I've been told by medical people that it is surprising how often someone will sit with a dying loved one, maybe for hours and hours, and then when they nip to the loo or go to phone someone the loved one dies, they even said it was as if the dying person was waiting to be alone so maybe I'm just more vocal than some about how I feel about it.

If the Queen didn't want certain people there she was entitled to say that.

BethJ62 · 07/01/2023 17:42

bakalava · 07/01/2023 17:40

He previously said that he was the one with the special relationship with the queen and her closest grandchild.

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And of course we believe everything Harry says !!

toomuchlaundry · 07/01/2023 17:43

@bakalava he would say that wouldn’t he! Bet he wouldn’t be the favourite now if the Queen was still alive

BlackFriday · 07/01/2023 17:45

I bet all the other grandchildren are thrilled to read that! What an arrogant, entitled and tone-deaf thing to allege.

Besides which, he didn't exactly treat her well in her last few years, did he?

SylviasMotherSaid · 07/01/2023 17:52

Harry reminds me a lot of what I’ve read about Kaiser Wilhelm who had major issues with the British Royals and caused a lot of trouble to get to Queen Victoria’s death bed and ran around doing interviews about his thoughts about England and causing a lot of trouble thankfully Harry isn’t an autocratic ruler

diddl · 07/01/2023 17:55

BlackFriday · 07/01/2023 17:45

I bet all the other grandchildren are thrilled to read that! What an arrogant, entitled and tone-deaf thing to allege.

Besides which, he didn't exactly treat her well in her last few years, did he?

Well I would think that wearing a dress of "Granny's" plus the tiara that HMQ wore on her own wedding day must put Beatrice pretty high up in the "ranking"!

MoirasSaggyBundles · 07/01/2023 17:56

He previously said that he was the one with the special relationship with the queen and her closest grandchild.

We only have his word for it. Closer than Zara and Peter? Closer than the children of her beloved Sophie? Is it a competition? Does he feel proud to boast about something that might hurt the others?

He's constantly positioning himself as "the one". He said the Queen confided in him things she didn't tell anyone else (she may well have confided different things to different children/grandchildren/DILs that the others didn't know). He said he was the one who could make sure the Queen had the "right" people around her (how exactly he would be in a position to do this once no longer a working royal is anyone's guess). Yet, he's also apparently been overlooked by the very same Queen and her subjects in all the respects he's complaining about now. This is hardly the mark of the Queen's special one. He has a peculiar mixture of grandiosity and victimhood.

BethJ62 · 07/01/2023 18:00

He had such a special relationship with her that he dashed away before the end of the PJ celebrations and refused to visit her in the days before her death .

BlackFriday · 07/01/2023 18:03

BethJ62 · 07/01/2023 18:00

He had such a special relationship with her that he dashed away before the end of the PJ celebrations and refused to visit her in the days before her death .

Yes, has he explained that part in the book, does anyone know?

toomuchlaundry · 07/01/2023 18:06

@BlackFriday undoubtedly it would be someone else’s fault he had to rush away and not visit the Queen

toomuchlaundry · 07/01/2023 18:07

Maybe he had to go and sing to some seals!

twelly · 07/01/2023 18:17

Grandparents have different relationships with their grandchildren - as they are different people, were born a different life stages. Many grandparents try to establish a special unique relationship with all their grandchildren - that doesn't mean any one of them is more special

Nurserymumm · 07/01/2023 18:20

JADS · 07/01/2023 07:11

So something I have always wondered about this was why Harry got to go and the other cousins didn't (Peter, Eug, Zara, Bea)? I get Wills as he was next in line, but Harry's status as a non Dom means his Councillor of State role is redundant.

Were the RF still trying to show that Wills and Harry are on an equal footing?

Yes this. What right would Megan have over Zara & all the grandchildren. It has been widely reported the queens favourite & closest grandchild was Lady Louise (Edward & Sophie's daughter) even if Meghan had been bffs with the Queen she did not have rights over the grandchildren who deeply loved their grandmother & everything she stood for.

TizerorFizz · 07/01/2023 19:38

“Favourite” grandchild is all unsubstantiated opinion. Either Harry’s opinion or journalists. No one has any idea what the Queen thought. She did assert that “recollections may vary” though!

BradfordGirl · 07/01/2023 20:20

Well if the Queen did decide who she wanted by her bedside as she was dying as many have asserted on here, then she wanted Harry but not all of her grandchildren.

NimrodNimroy · 07/01/2023 20:58

BradfordGirl · 07/01/2023 20:20

Well if the Queen did decide who she wanted by her bedside as she was dying as many have asserted on here, then she wanted Harry but not all of her grandchildren.

You have absolutely no way of knowing that at all. Your opinion is not a fact.

BradfordGirl · 07/01/2023 21:04

@NimrodNimroy Not my opinion. All those defending Meghan not being allowed to go have said it would have been the Queen's decision. So if the Queen decides Meghan can not go, she also decided other grandchildren could not go and which grandchildren could go.
Or someone else made that decision? Charles? Maybe he decided Harry and William could come but not other grandchildren?