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Meghan WAS banned from Balmoral after Queen’s death

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SnottyLottie · 05/01/2023 20:48

In his book, Harry also claims that his father told him that Meghan should not come to Balmoral. The Queen was staying at her Scottish estate when she died last September.

The prince wrote: "Then my father called again. He told me I was welcome at Balmoral, but… without her. He started to explain his reasons, but they didn't make any sense at all, and it was disrespectful as well. I did not tolerate it from him.

"Don't even think about talking about my wife like that.

"Repentant, he said, stammering, that he simply didn't want the place to be full of people. Nobody's wife was going to go, not even Kate, he told me, so Meg shouldn't either."

source: news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-asked-his-father-not-to-marry-camilla-as-moment-he-was-told-about-his-mothers-car-accident-revealed-in-book-12780602

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OliviaBean · 07/01/2023 15:14

What a complete and utter s**tshow.

Of course she was banned from Balmoral and PH shouldn't have even asked, ffs he has the emotional intelligence of an ant. His dad just lost his mother, he was just made king after 73 years and yet it's all about Meghan. You couldn't make it up.

PH looks for slights against Meghan in everything and from everyone, he really has morphed her into his own mother.

Meghan is meant to be intelligent but my word she has zero emotional intelligence and it seems clear to me she hasn't her husband's best interests at heart. PH clearly has serious mental health issues and yet it seems the one person who seems to be his world hasn't talked sense into him and stop him from self destructing further

PicturesOfDogs · 07/01/2023 15:16

smilesy · 07/01/2023 14:29

I read that the time he wanted to pull it was in the summer after he had a meeting with the Queen. But after he got back to the States, he changed his mind

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There was a lad on the news who had served with him, who basically said he’s surrounded himself totally with the wrong people, who don’t have his best interests at heart.

The fact he wanted to pull it, then went back to the US and changed his mind seems to support this.

He seems very easily led

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 07/01/2023 15:21

AliceOlive · 07/01/2023 12:34

I agree @workiskillingme. I really want to see them settled and happy but don’t see how anyone can trust them now on any level. It would be so very difficult to have any kind of relationship with people who are so willing to use every experience and private interaction as fodder for a book or tv series.

Agree with this. Everyone but the dregs of Hollywood will be wary and distant now.

smilesy · 07/01/2023 15:22

He seems very easily led

I agree, and he also seems desperate for approval for those he latches on to.

smilesy · 07/01/2023 15:22

from not for 🙄

TheRubyRedshoes · 07/01/2023 15:29

Setting aside the sad occasion....I'm glad Harry stood up for his wife.
Charles has pushed and pushed and pushed Camilla on everyone,over his actual then wife, then his son's.

I don't necessarily blame him, he didn't have the freedom of choice either but he did. . Harry is now defending the woman he loves,good on him.

ThighMistress · 07/01/2023 15:32

Whatever “side” you are on, and whatever the rights or wrongs of the situation, surely you just don’t go where you’re not wanted.

If I had argued (publicly) with dh’s nearest and dearest I can’t imagine brazenly turning up to a family death situation. Even if you believe you have right on your side, how could you bear the awkwardness ?

PicturesOfDogs · 07/01/2023 15:34

TheRubyRedshoes · 07/01/2023 15:29

Setting aside the sad occasion....I'm glad Harry stood up for his wife.
Charles has pushed and pushed and pushed Camilla on everyone,over his actual then wife, then his son's.

I don't necessarily blame him, he didn't have the freedom of choice either but he did. . Harry is now defending the woman he loves,good on him.

Is this some sort of irregular verb?

He pushes

I defend

BethJ62 · 07/01/2023 15:34

TheRubyRedshoes · 07/01/2023 15:29

Setting aside the sad occasion....I'm glad Harry stood up for his wife.
Charles has pushed and pushed and pushed Camilla on everyone,over his actual then wife, then his son's.

I don't necessarily blame him, he didn't have the freedom of choice either but he did. . Harry is now defending the woman he loves,good on him.

You need to pick your moments .

On being told by his father that The Queen was dying , the correct response would have been - what can I do ? Will I travel to Balmoral ?
Not throw a hissy fit because your wife ( who has made her views on the RF clear) isn’t invited.

TheRubyRedshoes · 07/01/2023 15:41

Pictures I have no idea what an irregular verb is.

I'm not convinced that Charles ever chose his moment's either.

TheRubyRedshoes · 07/01/2023 15:41

Beth I agree. It certainly wasn't the moment.
However in light of everything else I guess he couldn't take any more?

DogBowlsAreMyWeapon · 07/01/2023 15:46

TheRubyRedshoes · 07/01/2023 15:41

Pictures I have no idea what an irregular verb is.

I'm not convinced that Charles ever chose his moment's either.

This is what confirming your ignorance looks like - in case anyone wringing their hands about this book is confused.

TheRubyRedshoes · 07/01/2023 15:48

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Yes I am ignorant when it comes to the finer points of grammar.

I'm not sure what it says about you however for pointing it out?

Or was your comment about Charles choosing his moments?

smilesy · 07/01/2023 15:52

TheRubyRedshoes · 07/01/2023 15:41

Beth I agree. It certainly wasn't the moment.
However in light of everything else I guess he couldn't take any more?

I think if you read the whole excerpt, his problem was that initially he believed the now Princess of Wales was going to Balmoral and was outraged that Meghan was not also invited. When told that Catherine was not going he said “why didn’t you say that in the first place” and backed down. So it was nothing g to do with needing his wife with him and everything to do with his mistaken belief that his brother’s wife was going.

BethJ62 · 07/01/2023 16:06

smilesy · 07/01/2023 15:52

I think if you read the whole excerpt, his problem was that initially he believed the now Princess of Wales was going to Balmoral and was outraged that Meghan was not also invited. When told that Catherine was not going he said “why didn’t you say that in the first place” and backed down. So it was nothing g to do with needing his wife with him and everything to do with his mistaken belief that his brother’s wife was going.

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What difference would it have made had Kate gone ? The fact is that Charles said no . Ok Harry would have been miffed but it simply wasn’t the time to be arsey .

mpsw · 07/01/2023 16:08

TheRubyRedshoes · 07/01/2023 15:41

Pictures I have no idea what an irregular verb is.

I'm not convinced that Charles ever chose his moment's either.

An irregular verb (in this sense) was coined in the TV programme Yes Minister:

I give confidential briefings
You leak
He's been prosecuted under the Official Secrets Act

AliceOlive · 07/01/2023 16:13

Jesus, that was confusing. Here:

In rhetoric, emotive or emotional conjugation (also known as Russell's conjugation)[1] mimics the form of a grammatical conjugation of an irregular verb to illustrate humans' tendency to describe their own behavior more charitably than the behavior of others.[2]

Used seriously, such loaded language can lend false support to an argument by obscuring a fallacy of meaning.[3]

AliceOlive · 07/01/2023 16:15

So, @TheRubyRedshoes , you describe Harry as defending his wife, but Charles doing the same is pushing Camilla on others.

smilesy · 07/01/2023 16:19

BethJ62 · 07/01/2023 16:06

What difference would it have made had Kate gone ? The fact is that Charles said no . Ok Harry would have been miffed but it simply wasn’t the time to be arsey .

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I agree. I was just pointing out that the reason that Harry was pushing back was not that he either needed his wife or was standing up for his wife per se, it was that he didn’t want to be treated differently from his brother.

Blossomtoes · 07/01/2023 16:21

TheRubyRedshoes · 07/01/2023 15:41

Beth I agree. It certainly wasn't the moment.
However in light of everything else I guess he couldn't take any more?

He’d been out of the country for over three years living his best life in the sun. What had he “taken” in that time?

Jean67 · 07/01/2023 16:22

For Harry to argue with his father at a time when Charles's mum was about to die was unforgivable and disgusting behaviour from a grown adult.

MoirasSaggyBundles · 07/01/2023 16:23

Kate had been a loyal girlfriend, wife, DIL, GDIL, respected member of the RF and future Queen for what, 16 years at the point the Queen died. Why would Harold expect Meghan - a working royal for all of 2(?)years before buggering off, cashing in and slagging off the RF - to be treated the same as Kate?

ThighMistress · 07/01/2023 16:24

But normally of course one can be a bit miffed if your spouse was excluded but your sibling’s spouse included.

HOWEVER times were far from normal. Kate had not trashed the rf. Meghan had.

MoirasSaggyBundles · 07/01/2023 16:27

If anyone should be aggrieved, it's Kate, surely. Denied the chance to be with her husband and beloved ILs to placate a tantruming man child.

bakalava · 07/01/2023 16:29

I believe that Kate was busy with settling the kids into a new school that day. I wish that hadn't been the case and she had gone and Meghan had still been disinvited to emphasize the difference in entitlement between a working royal and a long departed temp.